Published May 2, 2025, 9 a.m.
9am Off the Grid - Ralph the IT Guy, and Shawn Starry! What do to become independent, or when the power grid goes down. Also news and views on what's going on in the world Shawn Starry - Panhandle Documentary and Author of several books. We will be discussing survival techniques if domestic terrorism occurs or in a wartime scenario. Other subjects Texas wildfire DEW Directed Energy Weapons -Freedom Garden Club Podcast 10am Bond issue exposed!!! How the school districts are being counseled on misleading the public on bond issues. This involves an attorney firm which has found a loophole to get around telling the whole truth to citizens in order to get bonds passed. Joe and Renita Bonadies and Mel X/Twitter: https://x.com/i/broadcasts/1RDGlzYMbbqxL Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/636616148890812/videos/693888100003938 Rumble: https://rumble.com/v6sux5j-bnn-brandenburg-news-network-522025-off-the-grid-and-bond-issue-exposed-in-.html https://rumble.com/v6sux45-bnn-brandenburg-news-network-522025-off-the-grid-and-bond-issue-exposed-in-.html Odysee: https://odysee.com/@BrandenburgNewsNetwork:d/bnn-2025-05-02-off-the-grid-and-bond-issue-exposed-in-michigan:6 Guests: Donna Brandenburg, Ralph the IT Guy, Shawn Starry, Joe Bonadies, Renita Bonadies, Mel
Good morning and welcome to Brandenburg News Network. I am Donna Brandenburg, and it's the second day of May, twenty twenty five. Welcome to our show today. We're going to start out today with off the grid with Sean Starry and Ralph the IT guy. And in the second hour, we're going to be talking to a couple of people who are brought by the Midland School District and exposing that there's actually an a group of attorneys that are coaching the school systems on how to kind of avoid telling the real issues or what's really going on within our bond issues in the state, which I find to be, there just seems to be no end to the ways that they like to hide things from everyday Americans who just want to do the right thing. It's kind of crazy. So we're going to go off the grid here onto some crazy subjects that, you know, I like to question everything. And just so you know, I've been talking about Ask My Tax and the nonsense going on with that. And I am going to stand by what I have said. I'm getting a lot of, drawing a lot of flack, which I find that the comments that are coming back is, Donna Brandenburg is this, Donna Brandenburg is that. But they will not debate this situation. They absolutely will not address my problems that I have with this. With the fact that, you know, we've got BlackRock out there that's buying up single family homes. They're at six hundred thousand single family homes. They brought up that they bought up. We have over I think it's fifty billion dollars in taxes that they're going to get outside of paying. And it's an expense they can't get out from underneath. So why are they doing such a half cocked measure here? They also seem to target realtors. to partner with in their land grabs, which is interesting. The founder of Ask My Tax is a realtor, has been a realtor since two thousand and nine. And there's a lot of questions that need to be asked here because what they do is they sell us headlines, but then they don't really talk about the loopholes that they put in there. Now, I can tell you by experience on the ERISA Act of that they did the same thing with that. And it was really about allowing the unions to pilfer their own coffers. They did it. I was involved in one of these situations. with Central States Teamsters, and I can tell you exactly how this distraction works. And I'm seeing the pattern again, but they're not going to talk about it. They're just going to sit there and attack people who have questions, and they will not answer the questions. We tried for six months with Carla Wagner under the US Taxpayers Party, which is the Constitution Party in Michigan, refused to answer the questions. The pattern is there. I can't help people who want to defend this kind of nonsense. I can't help people. You're going to have to answer, ask the questions that need to be asked and not let them shut them down by saying, this person's a liar or that person's a liar with no justification whatsoever. And I'm going to continue to bring this stuff forward because Even if I'm the only one asking the questions that's out there, I'm going to keep asking questions. With that said, we're going to go off the grid with Sean and Ralph. How are you guys doing? Pretty good. Good morning. What's happening in your world today? Except for you're a lot less fuzzy, Sean. What happened there? Yeah, so my beard, you know, I had some moisture issues with it and my hair starts falling out and I kind of had to make a decision to cut it all off. And then now I'm learning a little bit more about how to take better care of my beard. So I'm re-growing it back out, but I'm using a moisturizer plan. Oh, there you go. Well, I just had a question in from Leb. What is the symbol on your jacket? Here, let me show you. You know what that symbol is? It's Ariat. They're three horseshoes. So that's what it is. I'm a horse girl, so I'm going to wear horse garb. And let's see. I think I got it on this sleeve. There you go. It's an Ariat coat. And all of us horse people like wearing things with horses. with horse symbols on it because we love our cowgirl moments in life better than any moments. So there you go. That's what it is. And where does that name come from? Ariat, the name Ariat came from a very legendary horse named Secretariat. And they took the name from Secretariat and just chopped the name in half and came up with Ariat. So most, most of it caught, most of us call it Ariat. And so it's just, I don't know. That's just common, common terms, common language. And maybe it's just the Michigan accent. I don't know. You know, we butcher the accent every day, but, but this is, I love this coat and look at on the inside. Look at, let's see, see the patterns. Isn't that cool? It's cool. It's just a cool jacket. It's a little cold here. I just got in from being outside and it's a little cool and damp and rainy in Michigan. And, and all of the Ariat clothes are made for outdoor. And the great thing about it is you go out like this, if you're around horses, what happens is then within two minutes, you're covered with fur, you're covered with dirt. It's just the way it is, okay? And you're not gonna get away from it. You could bathe a horse, every single day and they're going to walk right after you look over their shoulder fall down on the dirt roll around and look back at you and basically flip you off because they want to be dirty they love having dirt in their fur it's just like they do these dirt baths and rolls and scratches and such it's just the way it is so this is kind of nice because nothing really sticks to it if you can listen to the the the fabric it's great I would encourage anyone that really wants cool outdoor clothing that is actually made for outdoors. Look at the Ariat stuff, it's great. And I don't get paid for this. I just happen to like the brand. So there you go. So let's talk about what's going on here in the world. We can talk about off the grid, it's in planting season, but you talked about the tunnels before and things. Now, are you okay with talking about that today? Or should I just play the video and see what happens? Well, I'll tell you what, let's play the video and then I'll respond to it after. Okay. So this post comes from a friend of mine, Eric. I know Eric very well. He's a really good person. And this video is about Catherine Austin Fitz on how America's leader gave up the country in the nineties. I think I should see if I can find her and get her on, but let's talk, let's listen to this and CMEX comes up and we've talked about CMEX underground tunnels. We've talked about, everything in there. And I'm just going to say it myself. If you haven't read the book of Enoch, I think it's probably a good idea because I think this is going to prepare you for what's going to happen. And honestly, I'm going to come back here for just a minute. Honestly, I think what's going to happen is that we're going to be proven right on so many things because we were courageous enough not to go along with the sheeple narrative and question the narrative that's out there. that apart from being ridiculed apart from being attacked we are still going to question this stuff and look at what's out there attack away because I don't mind the attacks I find them kind of amusing and it just gives me advertising so it's like whatever you want to do fantastic I love it I'm not above being questioned and I will have open discussions on ax my tax which is a tax abatement promise for dummies because there's loopholes in that. And if anybody thinks that anybody's going to do something without having some action that doesn't require your participation, including getting petition signatures to keep you busy. That's what they're doing. They're keeping you busy on this nonsense, bull crap stuff that's out there to waste your time, take your money in politics, keep your money, keep your time. Unless you decide that this is something that you can get behind because someone has proven themselves, not just because they show up on the scene and they've got blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. OK, but we're going to continue to say the unpopular things that draws these scumbags out into the light. so that we can literally hand their ever-living asses to them. I'm done with it, and I'm not going to back down off of this. You're going to see the loopholes in Ask My Tax. They're giving the big corporations an excuse not to pay taxes, but there is no provision for shifting the tax in another way back onto the people. Just wait and see. It's going to happen. I'm going to be right on this one. And we're going to be right on what Sean has said about the underground bases. I'm going to say it right now. I think we're going to see Nephilim. I think we're going to see all kinds of stuff come out of there. We're going to we're going to see things that we as a people are perhaps not prepared for. So I think it's important for us. The same thing happened with COVID and the clot shot. Some of us were out there saying, don't do it. You're going down the wrong path. We questioned one of President Trump's executive orders the other day. Don't do it. You're going to have to start thinking. and not follow people based on idolatry this is idolatry when you follow somebody without questioning and I'm not going to stop talking about it and it's it'll it'll come out in the wash it always does so let's listen to this here a minute just like just a random blue collar guy I think he was a concrete guy you know and he got a call for a million yards of concrete or whatever and went to this underground facility dod facility and saw clearly signs of some energy source that was, you know, defied the laws of known physics. So there are a bunch of people who have said stuff like that. So I don't think it's crazy. So I have one of, I have two businesses. One is the Solari Report. The other is Solari Screens. I do an investment screen. And I think, you know, a lot has to shift in investment if we're going to have a real civilization. And not misallocate. I think we're misallocating capital terribly anyway. But he, for thirty years, has been an investor in a breakthrough energy company. Someone you know has been. Yeah, yeah. And it's called Brilliant Light. You can go look at their website. And they're really, you know, they swear they've got it. And what is it? Don't ask me. You got to get him on. And so you think this money has. Yeah. So there you go. The zero point energy or the unlimited energy sources. I'm going to tell you, we don't know anything. We they have erased history. They have manipulated things, you know, seventeen ways to Taiwan. OK. So you actually have some experience with this, don't you, Sean? And you have experience, A, in the tunnels. You have experience with, you know, I'm not going to push you. You have to talk about what you're allowed to talk about and what is not going to, you know, create a problem. I completely believe that we've got all sorts of things underground. Maglev trains. I've talked to too many people who have been way underground and I'm not talking just like, you know, a basement. I'm talking about floors and and, you know, areas underground that are, you know, I don't know, a couple thousand feet underground minimally. Probably more, I think the most I've heard was six thousand feet, which makes us have to question the core. It has to make us question the structure of the earth that they told us what we're looking at. I don't believe any of their nonsense anymore. Yeah. Yeah, so there's twenty two hundred underground bases now. She was talking about I seen in a clip that based on her research, she estimated there was one hundred and seventy. There's a lot more. There's twenty two hundred underground bases worldwide. There's sixteen or seventeen hundred in the U.S., Now, I'm going to put this in perspective for you. Another base that I worked at, it's not too far from Chicago, but it is about five times bigger than the city of Chicago. It extends underneath the city of Chicago. Now, I'm going to put this in perspective for you. I'm going to share a little bit of truth behind all this to prove this. Now, you guys remember the Manhattan Project, right? They said it was constructed underneath the Soldier Stadium. So that is actually a part of the underground dumps. It gives you this magnitude and the scope of how big it is as far as being as wide. But it goes down about twenty two hundred feet. There's twenty two levels. So they have enough barrier between each level to prevent any type of intrusion or outbreaks or control any kind of situation down there. So when we do Like security patrols, where you have biometric sensors that are placed all over the entire place and we have, we actually have one office that has all of the, what do you want to call it? The monitor screens for all of the cameras and. all of the biosensors are also on there as well so we if something pops up this red that gives us an indication of what the situation is um and we have protocols in place to you know prevent anything from spilling out from one level to the next level so and what's funny is hollywood actually came out with a movie um my wife she was a big fan of this movie but When it first came out, I kind of just sort of, like, my heart stopped because it's so much in the context as the underground city. There's so much truth to this movie that it, to me, is kind of like their way of flaunting this information. What was it called again? It's called Resident Evil. Resident Evil. Yeah. So in the Resident Evil movie, you know, it talks about this underground city. You know, there's this lady who's supposed to be like an agent. You know, their job was security. So they're supposed to prevent any kind of intrusion or theft or anything like this from an employee. One of the employees, actually one of the guys that was working security with her, they're supposed to be like a married couple. But they're supposed to watch the security apparatus. They're like building spies for the underground dumps. But their house is on the surface level. But it goes into the underground dumps. But the husband, I guess, ends up betraying the corporation and he lets loose the T-virus in one of the labs. But he had already stolen, like he stole a bunch of other viruses and the antidotes and he threw a virus into the room, closed the door and starts walking out. And they have a security protocol that any type of virus gets into that particular like event system. Everything gets locked down. Defense systems get locked down on that floor. Everything gets locked down. Nobody leaves. And they have teams to come in, you know, and kind of investigate it and figure out what they need to do. They have cleanup teams. So Resident Evil is not that far off. Now they kind of expanded on that and they made it into a zombie movie, you know, and mutations of this and that, you know, kind of a war, kind of a sci-fi kind of thing, which is kind of interesting. um but in reality you know most people don't understand is that these underground dumps they actually do have their own cdc which is at the very bottom uh for very good reason because they have a lot of their experimentations going down there they have man-made viruses um they have some stuff down there that um that I know of that they have done some experiments on the surface level uh like in ukraine for example in twenty six or twenty thirteen twenty fourteen um and They're trying to contain it. The CIA trying to contain that whole situation, like the deal with the bath salt down in Florida where that gentleman was eating into somebody else, right? And they were trying to, they were controlling the media, trying to control the narrative and said, oh, you know, the guy was hiring bath salt. But then the CDC comes out with the actual report You can go to the CDC website, but you type in their zombie virus preparedness guide, okay? And when you download the PDF, it's just they did it in a format like a comic book to kind of let you know that if something like this happens, you know, what to kind of expect and stuff. So they have things down there that, you know, in my opinion, it should never exist to begin with. They do a lot of illegal experimentations. And it's really interesting because the dump itself is so big and so vast. They have enough food for the entire United States, just the twenty two hundred dumps. They have enough food and all of those to feed everybody in America for the next five hundred and thirty two years. wow okay so the amount of money that's actually being poured into these dumps uh the vast majority of this taxpayers dollars um like what we saw with the usaid where they were just you know pumping and funneling money out to you know all these different countries for whatever bullshit programs and things like this um is this it sean Yes, I believe, yes, it is. Yeah, this is where zombie, this is actually CDC. Yep, that's the one. Wow. Yeah, and it's there and you can download it. There was a CIA agent, a female CIA agent who had placed a undercover camera in her purse and she recorded a briefing from the head of the CIA in a meeting Uh, talking about this, and he was pissed off because they didn't, um, that they wanted the CDC not to report or not to put this information out. Right. Because this is this is the federal government's, uh. saying yes we acknowledge that there is a zombie virus okay we acknowledge that it does exist all right that's just the extent it goes uh but of course they're not going to tell you that uh where this is actually being made what experimentations they've done I mean we hear about a lot of these politicians talking about You know, the other politician, the guy from India, who is not a naturalized citizen, but he's a citizen of the United States, and he's, I think, a U.S. senator. And there was a big story about how he had been conducting research on animals, and he abandoned those animals, kind of left them to die. Isn't that that guy in Michigan that's been in the news? Yeah. Oh, what a joke. Eight hundred thousand dollars, you know, that he's looking for, which was a loss in a campaign or something like that. Hold my beer. You know, it's like I'm not I'm not feeling sorry for him. What a what a. I mean, that's just the tip of the iceberg. You know, if people understood their tax dollars was being used to create something like this. And there's a town called Priap, which is in northern Ukraine. And that entire town was wiped out because they were, what they did was they exposed them to the zombie virus. And the way they did it was they shipped in a big, I guess it's a big truck full of potatoes, but they infected the potatoes with the zombie virus. And when the people got it, of course, they'd take it and they'd all start cooking it and start eating it. What did you just say? They were taking the potatoes, you know, and the families were getting their potatoes, you know, they were cooking them and eating them, you know. And then within forty eight hours, they were just completely dead. I mean, they were all dead. But the problem was, is that their bodies were reanimated. They were still walking around with. But the thing is that they don't they're not conscious like we are. And so vladimir putin had found out that about this uh this incident with in pre-op because he was really concerned and as you know there was whispers of rumors of a biological attack and so he sent in uh you know a team of special officers um they blew in with a helicopter. He dropped down two men. One man was, you know, you can kind of see he's like walking up to the building, looking down like a main street. And all of a sudden he tells his other guy, start running. And he starts shooting his AK at all these people that are running towards him and zero effect. Okay. Absolutely no effect whatsoever. And then the camera on the gunship turns over. This is all in night vision because this is happening at nighttime. And so it was all pitch black. And so the second special needs officer is running, and he ends up running into a building, hoping that they won't see him, they won't find him, at least enough until he gets him, figure out a way out of there safely. But within seconds, the whole building was surrounded by those zombified people. They ran in, and they literally tore this guy, literally tore him apart within five seconds. and this was a video where did you see this so uh a confidential source of mine uh this was back in twenty fifteen twenty sixteen um he had reached out to me and said here hey you just sent me this link right just look at this so I popped open the link and I'm watching this whole thing um I'm actually seeing I can see time date stamps on it I can see in russian writing I can see Spetnaz, you know, I can see there's, you know, this was being recorded right off of their gunship. And and then you see this whole event unfold and. then I, I sent a message back saying location and they said, Prairie app, Ukraine. Um, and that kind of just really kind of, well, I mean, they really caught my attention. Um, I, then I took the video, I saved the video down and, um, and then I had a, a back channel that I was trying to share this with people. Um, and somebody took the video and they put it out on a, on the internet, and then the word got out to Rockstar Video Games, and Rockstar Video Games saw the video, and they wanted to know where the source came from. And so they contacted me through Backchannel and said, hey, we'd like to buy, we'd like to pay you for this video. I said, this video does not belong to me. It belongs to a Russian Backlink channel, and here's the link. and um so they went to the link and then they text me back or they uh emailed me back and they said hey listen uh that link doesn't it's broken it doesn't exist anymore um and I said well the cia Well, I told them, I said, well, you know, this is, you can see, I mean, if you just go into the information on the, you know, search for the information of that video, the original text on it, it'll show you where it came from, which they did. And they said, well, yeah. I told him, I said, I don't want to get money for it. All I did was I just put it out because I wanted people to be more kind of aware about this situation. What's going on for Ukraine? And so Rockstar took it and they put it into one of their video games. And then what has happened is, you know, this is much later. I think it was around twenty twenty, twenty twenty one. I released the video back again because my NDA is expired. So I put the clip out just so people could see it. and um all of a sudden I get this response from the Gen Z oh yeah and all this is a Rockstar video game this is from the Rockstar video game I said no look when was the Rockstar video game created this was in twenty sixteen twenty seventeen okay well this is like in twenty fourteen um you can see the times the time they'd stay up on it it is and it shows that right in there right so And eventually, after a while, I just kind of got tired of debating people. But then TikTok took that video down, and then they took my entire account down as well. You still have it? I still have the original video, yeah. Is there anywhere I can find it online? Um... that you know of? Yeah, there's several different sources. There's, I believe, I think on YouTube, they might have a video of that. And it shows if you type in zombie attack in Ukraine. Yeah. You can type in pre-op recurring, or you can put Rockstar Video Games zombie video. I've been able to show you. Like we always say, archive everything offline, you know, because otherwise it's so easy for stuff to just get to disappear or get rewritten or falsified. Mm-hmm. Yeah, that particular video got suppressed for, I want to say, two years. You could not find it anywhere online except for on Rockstar Video Game. But, you know, after Trump got back into office, then a lot of things started coming back out online, but they just kind of bury it. uh in a search you know on the search bar especially on google they buried it um I think I was like thirty pages in just to find it but um how do you spell the city name I'm gonna see if I can find it say that again what's the name of the city in ukraine it's called priap that's pr um I'll try There you go. Pre-op. I just see if it's the right spelling. We'll see what happens. Let's see. And you know, what's interesting is that not too long after that incident, this was right after Biden got into office in twenty twenty. That's when the Russian and Ukrainian war started. So a lot of people think, oh, you know, this whole russian ukraine war is about you know or uh putin trying to take over you know well the issue is is that um he was trying to stop a lot of the bio labs that were conducting all this research over there and they were conducting the researches on the people of ukraine and that's something that you never hear you never really hear anybody talk about And I'm pretty sure the congressmen that are on the arm select committees, they know about this. Or maybe the CIA is withholding that information from them and just kind of feeding them like small bits, but not the whole picture. And that's kind of what a lot of the unelected bureaucracy does. Does that look familiar? That one, I don't know. Well, I want to find the real one. So we'll look for that because now you got my curiosity. Let me see if I can pull it up and then I will shoot you the link. If you just put it in a private chat, that'll work. Sorry about that. That's all right. Yeah. Well, I just think, I just think that there are so many different, there's so many different things that, that are going on. Oh, in the chat, Donna, are you running for governor from Charlotte? You know what? I'm watching all of these people that are stepping up to be governor. And I just going to tell you right now that everything's on the table. Everything's on the table right now. I'm filing lawsuits because This petition nonsense that's going on is going to get nowhere. Have any of these worked? Please, someone answer me. Do any of these petition signatures work, our signature petitions with signatures? Because all I can tell you is all I've seen is every single one of them has either failed or not been what they've sold people they are. Okay, we've got another one here. Let's see what we've got here. Ralphie Buddy has got this. So let's see what you're bringing up here. Yeah, so this video is not while you're looking for the other video. This is one that to give you an idea of how easy it is anymore to synthesize a custom virus. This guy engineered a custom virus to cure his own lactose intolerance. And if you watch his follow-up videos, it did work. Growing a virus that codes for a functional copy of the lactase enzyme because I am very lactose intolerant. This is the final product. I had to package it into three pills because that was what I could get microcrystalline cellulose to fit into. I'm a little worried because I am allergic to penicillin and we use penicillin in the media. So I've got some Benadryl. So I'm going to take two of these and then hold these. And the idea is these will open up in my stomach, release the virus, and then the virus will go into my intestinal lining and give me a functional... I do not advise anybody to do this just so that you know. Well, bottoms up. Yeah, but if you watch through the video, he goes through the whole process of... engineering the viral sequence and then sending it off to a lab to be synthesized and then using it on himself. And he's done follow-up videos on that. It did work. So, you know, just, you know, probably not, it's a little on the risky side to try and do this kind of thing. But on the other hand, it really shows the low barrier to entry to get into doing that sort of thing anymore. Okay. Here we go. Here's, Here's Sean's video. Let me see if I can get this in here. It's on TikTok, which I actually like TikTok a lot. I think that's, Sean's on there, I'm on there. Yep. Is there any sound with this or not? Is there anyone, no? Sound, oh, here it is. Sound. let's just watch this so they were he was trying to shoot at him they're just like yeah he had no effect whatsoever and they tore him apart within seconds wow and and this is the thing that people don't understand is that particular video has authenticity to it because um number one uh this is this is a thermal image that's taken off of uh off a russian helicopter um it's got it's dated it's timed um it tells you what the thermal for um it tells you this uh the signature is td uh txt is seventeen so um This is, I mean, this is not something that at that time you could not just, I mean, there wasn't, the technology wasn't there for as far as CGI goes. Because, you know, with CGI nowadays, it's not seamless. You can find a lot of errors in it, like an extra finger or a third leg or whatever. And a lot of CGI's are uh very artificial you can see and you can feel the artificialness this is a legitimate military um military video that was taken from asbestos chopper so this occurred in pre-op ukraine which is north of Kiev and Kiev is known as the center or the center hub of where a lot of the biological experimentations and things like this take place. They shamelessly been using it on the people of Ukraine. This violates the Geneva Conventions grossly. But I will tell you that the vast majority of the members of the United Nations all funded this, and they all signed off and participated in a lot of this. So again, we go back to the government. Once the government gets so big and so fat, they really don't serve the people anymore, and they will violate and break every rule that's on the books that was written by their predecessors because they feel like they're untouchable. And that's why the CIA was freaking out about CDC putting out that zombie preparedness guide. I mean, it's right there. So, and then, of course, there's a video of the CIA agent who had secretly recorded the conversation between her and the staff and then there's the CIA director who is really pissed off because CDC was putting this out. They had the Florida bath salt incident contained to try to kind of steer people off from the fact that this guy was a zombie and that he has somehow contracted the virus. Um, but it's, it's not, it's not, uh, it's not one of those kinds of viruses as far as I understand. Um, like if you get bitten by one, right. Um, and then all of a sudden there's, you know, it multiplies and multiplies it. It's a one-to-one ratio, which the spread of the virus is a one-to-one ratio. So. But if you drop that one person in a largely densely populated area, that number then becomes exponential. But you get it in a controlled setting with a limited amount of people, they don't have to worry about outbreaks. But it's really interesting how they downplayed it. They don't want people to know any truth about it. And that was massively concerning for me because You know, you get to a point where you think, OK, well, who can I trust? Right. Who can I trust in our own government? No one. I don't trust anybody. And at this point, because even if you have a good person, if they get threatened or coerced, you know, they most people will fold. Or if you have a good person, they may be being fed bad information. Or let's just say the executive order that we went through on Wednesday that President Trump put out. The order is not a good order. It's just not a good order. Now, I'm not going to say that everything is straightforward or what we see. President Trump typically will throw things out there because he's the bait. And he will throw things out there to see who bites on this or who gets it and who is willing to go along with anything that's put in front of them. Or if they're going to question it and say, all right, we love you, President Trump, but this one is not okay. I actually put a video on my, and this is disturbing to me. I put this video out there that shows some cops beaten up this. Let's see if I can find it here. Beating up a guy. Let's see which channel I put it on in a minute. I've only got a ton of them. Yeah, I got to get it on my Telegram channel. It's on my X channel. But about these cops that were beating up a guy on the road, they're just beating the crap out of him. Three cops on him just beating the crap out of him. This executive order gives cops immunity for anything. And I'm sorry, but I'm not a fan of the police departments because they're policy enforcers. We need to have the sheriffs, which are constitutional sheriffs and peacekeepers. They're there to keep the peace. They're not there to shove money the unconstitutional policies down people's throats. And all I can say is that when you see the problems with police brutality, they're, they're not, they're not perfect. And I can't say that I'm going to back the blue under every circumstances. I will not say that. Now, I think that police have, have, this is one of those things that there's problems on both sides because, you know, they, they go after good cops and try to use some crappy excuses and our, our injustice system protects them. That's not okay. But we need to go back to constitutional sheriffs and honestly, the militia where people have stand your ground. If somebody comes on to threaten you on in your house, you have a constitutional basis that, to back the highest law in the land protects that right they've just taken it and absolutely wrung everything they have out of it in order to push their pretended legislation and neuter the people of the united states by by basically offing our rights one at a time really should be one of the primary ways that that laws are enforced it is supposed to be up to the militia the people and then they can be prosecuted by the sheriffs. But we should really be, it is all of our responsibility to uphold the laws. Yeah, and that's the thing about a lot of people don't understand. So the sheriffs have been around since the introduction of the Constitution itself. The sheriffs have been around since then because they're part of that constitutional process. But it wasn't until right around. Eighteen fifty. That's when they started coming out with corporate police. Officers, so police officers is just a coin term that they use when the politicians. In fact, during that day in, they said, well, we've got a quell, whatever kind of rebellions that are going on and New York City or or anywhere in the country. Right? So we, we. So we want to politicize this to a point where whoever is in power can use their their police to police their cities or towns, the rural areas. You know, it was just a way for them to try to overstep. uh the the constitutional sheriffs uh that were put into place uh at the beginning and we saw this you know uh throughout all the decades they had police reforms after police reforms after police reforms and a lot of the the police officers that I've worked with you know they would give me the rundown on uh what their police academy teaches them right And prior to nineteen ninety three, they were focused on a lot of de-escalation. Right. They knew they they taught them how to poke around, ask questions, just, you know, try to find out what's up in this going on. Right. And but the thing is, they're taught how to de-escalate themselves, which they had, you know, learning about how to put that person has to have. And it was a qualification that they would do back then. But they had they go through a questioning and interview questioning. But it's also a psychological exam to see that a governor, an emotional governor, that if this police officer was going to be this person was going to be a good fit to be a police officer or not. And then nineteen ninety three comes along and Joe Biden introduces the police reform bill and the crime or the crime law reform bill. And one of the first things they did was they had to change the way the police officers are being trained at the police academy. And so They put an emphasis on de-escalation techniques and focus heavily on antagonizing individuals with questions. They're not digging to find out what's going on with the situation. they're actually antagonizing the person into revealing information that's not true and credible, to antagonize the person, you know, to target certain individuals. And if they could target that individual by antagonizing them, getting them to be resistant or to attack a police officer, then they're that's their goal and the whole goal is is you got they they've got to make so many arrests they've got to make so many stops uh and this all comes back to the corporate policing system where it's all about the money right so um when you've got so many people going to jail over something bogus as simple as you know they've got a tail light out and they get stopped by a cop The cop says, okay, you got a taillight. All right. A normal cop would be looking around. Normally anybody asking, you know, where are you coming from? Where are you going? Just typical questions and say, okay, well, you know, I'll run your information or whatever. Nothing comes back. It's absolutely clean. Or even if the person had already had a record, which means, okay, this person's gone to jail or gone to prison for two years. He served his time. Okay, so he's done. He's... He's no longer would be considered a felon because a felon implies that you're doing the time. Okay. And they changed that language in nineteen ninety three. And so when you get out of prison, what's the stigma on that person is you're a felon for life. No, I already spent my time, right? But the cops don't know this, especially the younger generations that are going to police academy training. They're giving them false information. They give them bad training, lack of training. And then what they do is overwhelm them once they get in and start working as a cop. They could be doing, you know, four or five, twelve hour shifts a week. When do they ever get time to go out and actually do some more training, right? Do some gun safety, right? That's the number one thing is gun safety. And if you go back to the FBI reports, the number one class of people who have the largest number of accidental discharge of a firearm is not the American citizens. It's the police officers. Why? Because the vast majority of the police officers don't come from families that have gun gun backgrounds. Right. When they've gone hunting or, you know, that kind of a structure. And so. When they go through Police Academy, they have a basic requirement. They shoot on a piece of paper. They pass. They're good enough. They push them out the door. It's not about quality. It's about quantity. How many cops can we get on onto into our city to patrol the streets? And And they've got some really bad training. They got bad teaching, bad advice. And this, what it does, what he did was it created a crisis. So that's why you see a lot of police beatings. Like we saw back in the eighties, we had the Rodney King situation, right? That could have been easily averted if the cop had gone through de-escalation training. And if they had investigated that officer to see before they hired him, does he have a governor in his emotional response system? If he doesn't, well... You're too toxic. We can't hire you. It's not good for our city, right? We need somebody who's going to be level-headed, who's going to assess the situation, make good choices, and keep the streets safe. They did it with the J-Sixers. The J-Sixers, it was the people in uniform that provoked by pushing people down the stairs. They grabbed Jalise Middleton, who is somewhat disabled. They grabbed her by her scarf and dragged her backwards. And she was praying. And they literally attacked the people. And why did they do that? They wanted to get the guys to start defending their family and their family, their wives and such. These people are absolutely pukes. And, you know, I feel sorry for the good cops that are out there. I really do. But it goes into this is that I'm sorry. Clean your own house out. We have to clean our own houses out of the corruption or else we're kind of complicit. And I don't care who you are. If you're with a group of people and they're doing the wrong thing. I mean, look at the Republican and the Democrat cults. They're cults. And they're taking, they're a threat to this nation. They're being paid off by foreign sources. And I'm sorry, if you're not willing to clean the, you know, the junk, the trash out of these organizations that you're a part of, you are the problem also. Yeah. And it goes, you know, I was having this conversation with somebody yesterday and they asked me a really good question. Like, when did all this start? And I said, well, let me give you a clue. Do you know about the silent generation? The silent generation was back in the nineteen twenties and thirties. Why did they call them the silent generation? It's because in nineteen thirteen, when Woodrow Wilson sold out the United States to the private banking corporation. They basically said, well, they lied to the American people. It was published in the newspaper article and the New York Times. It says we're broke. Right. And one of the truth of the matter is in the U.S. Treasury showed that we were two million dollars in the surplus. And that was from all the tariffs. But they lied to the American people and they said, we're broke. So we need the private banks to bail us out. Well, what they did was they opened up the floodgate to allow the private banks to basically be his own government entity. They can act as well. They created the Federal Reserve. They helped monopolize the executive branch, which we see all these three-letter agencies, right? We see the CIA, FBI, NSA, and so on. But it really started taking off right after nine-eleven. In two thousand and one, when they passed the Patriot Act, this emboldened them. And with the Chevron difference that came out in nineteen eighty four, well, they could write policy. They could write rules. They could they could basically govern everything about how we live our lives. But more importantly, what people don't understand is this. Number one, taxes are voluntary. There's no law structure that ever says, you can go back to the original writings on the Constitution and the Bill of Rights, it says that taxes are illegal. When we go to the Federalist Papers, and they said that taxes can be appropriated only in emergency short-term measures for the national defense, if needed. But when they started coming out with doing income taxes. And that was the first step. And they said, you know, this is voluntary. I think there was like, thirty-two people volunteered to pay into the federal, to pay federal taxes out of their paychecks, right? And then came the creation of the IRS, Internal Revenue Service. And one of the big things is that They started to use the Chevron difference and they started writing more and more policies and they started using a lot of threats that we're going to confiscate your stuff. We're going to liquidate your house, your car. We're going to throw you in jail for not paying your taxes and things like this. But then it comes into the other problem is that the judicial branch, a lot of them have been bought by the private banks. You know, they get stipends, they get, you know, so many convictions, they get, you know, kickbacks on this. Well, they take eighteen percent of the money judgments in the state of Michigan. and their little civil action jurisdiction nonsense. And they put it towards the retirement funds and such. So of course they're going to do things with Laura. They're only prosecuting things with money judgments that pay themselves a dividend for the judgment. This is so messed up. And, uh, That's why they, you know, that's why they call them the silent generation, because they fell asleep with the whale. They didn't question, you know, they say, oh, is this in the Constitution? Is it a constitutional law? No, it's not. I'm sorry, but you guys can't do this. But what's interesting is that in the nineteen thirty, I think this was in nineteen thirty, the federal, the federal, the Fed, decided they were going to raise interest rates. And a bunch of stockbrokers got together and they said, we can't let this happen. Absolutely not. The Fed cannot sit there. Private banks cannot continuously raise the interest rates because it's going to collapse our country again. We're already going through a Great Depression and now they want to raise interest rates. So they took it upon themselves to And you can find the article. There's articles out there on the Internet. But they took it upon themselves. They went home, got their guns, got their ammunition, and they went into the Fed building. And they literally held the Fed hostage until they lowered those interest rates. And they told them, if you raise the interest rates again, we're going to come back and we're going to shoot you dead. Because number one. You're not supposed to access and you're not supposed to be raising interest rates. We're supposed to be based on the tariff system based on the federal or on not using Federal Reserve. But we're supposed to be, you know, using the U.S. Treasury. Right. But the thing is that people don't understand is what the private banks did was very first thing they have to do is they have to change the language structure. When you went into the bank in nineteen twelve, you were called the creditor. The bank was called the debtor because you deposit your money into their bank. They're in debt to you. Now, how did they make their money? So when they collected enough money into savings account, They would appropriate that money by giving out loans. And with those loans, they had a percentage. Usually it was like around two or three percent. And the bank would make the money on the two or three percent. That's how the bankers got paid their wages. Right. It was very low wages. It was a shitty job. Nobody wanted to be a banker, you know, really. It was kind of usually reserved for people who were, you know, like a number of geeks. So, but you go back and you watch, I'm trying to think of the name of that movie now. Well, they always tell us what they're doing in the movies and songs too, actually. Yeah. You remember the one with, I think his name was Cary Grant, or it was an old, old movie back in the thirties, you know, where he's, he's a banker and, and then a bunch of the money went missing because the other banker guy stole that envelope with the cash. and then he you know was talking thinking about throwing himself off the bridge and this angel comes and saves them and shows him a whole different life without him in the picture and then he goes to this crazy like um he's in twilight zone kind of a deal oh isn't that it's a wonderful life Yes. Yes. Thank you. And it's Jimmy. Is that Jimmy Stewart? Jimmy Stewart. Yeah. Jimmy Stewart. Yeah. And the angel on the bridge. I got the reference. So in that movie, it actually does tell you the truth about how the banking system was. OK, now how it should be. But what they did and had to do in order to change the entire structure is to change the language. The first thing they have to do is tell you that you are in debt. You're a debtor. And the banks, the private banks, are the assets. So they're the creditors. So even if you go to the bank and you put money into a savings account, they're still called the creditors. You're not called a creditor. You're called a debtor. That's why they built this debt system where... you know, the private banks don't actually use cash. Okay. Real money. They don't even use real money. They use a system called the debt system. They take, they have a bunch of debt that they use to buy other debt. Okay. So it's all on paper. yeah we've got like three trillion dollars in circulation that's it the rest of that is just a fiat oh yeah we have this much money we have this much debt no they don't they have nothing real there's nothing real to back there's nothing real to that's actually out there have you ever looked into that one company that basically owns all of the stocks on the stock market oh yeah blackrock No, no, not even that. It goes deeper than that. There's one company I'd have to look up the name of it, but there's one company that holds all of the stocks for basically everything on the stock market. They keep the actual stock certificates. Oh yeah. And then the one company, and then they just basically shuffle around numbers in their system to keep track of who owns which stock certificates, but they're all actually just kept by this one company. I can't think of the name either yeah I'd have to look it up it should be easy to find so I want to bring something up before we move on because the cryptos are in are always in the news and I'm not a fan okay I'm just gonna say that I'm not a fan so this this um the channel came up it's called all things xrp and it said dark pools don't exist for xrp wrong the truth they're likely to they're quietly shaping xrp's future Dark pools are real and let me explain. What are they? They are private trading venues where institutions move large amounts off the radar. No slippage, no retail signal. Obviously for Wall Street now thriving in crypto. uh kraken and s fox offer dark pool style trading likely including xrp coinbase might also though that's unconfirmed now decentralized dark pools are rising powered by zero knowledge tech for total anonymity I'm sorry guys I'm not gonna sit here and and give everybody this this pollyanna view of everything And what's going on? We have to question these things. This is how they've taken us hostage for years. And these people that follow these self-proclaimed gurus with these petition nonsense things who have never changed anything. They've never changed anything by this. Give me one case. They're giving us this illusion. Okay, number one, they're giving us this illusion that by having a computer coin that somehow magically you're going to make a whole bunch of money in a very, very short amount of time. I've had a lot of people try to sell me on this, you know, well, I've got this program. That, you know, it focuses on when you when you buy this and then we basically we dump it and sell it when it gets high. Right. But the truth is they're actually sales managers for these Fiat companies. And what the Fiat companies are trying to do is they're trying to dump the debt. and take the money from us, right? So they turn around, they buy into all these like crypto or Bitcoin or whatever. But this is what people don't understand. They control XRP, all the digital coins that are out there. They control all of it. They're just changing. What they're doing is taking one fiat system, changing to another fiat system. Okay, so the electronic- I agree with that. I agree with that analysis. And there's so many deficiencies in this system, but people are so conditioned to jump on hopium. They have hopium going on on, Oh, this person's going to fix everything. President Trump is going to fix everything for us. You know, you know what guys, he can't, it's too big. Who, even if he removed it, if they were able to remove everyone, who's going to step up to do the work. We've got cookie eaters and, and coffee drinkers that go to these political events that don't do anything. All they do is they sit around and talk and they bitch. and then they eat the free cookies and coffee and they go home but are they willing to put their their life in in harm's way I'm going to tell you I've seen almost none almost none it's all the the naysayers the and the complainers that is it and they do nothing and they're really not all that smart they're not finding ways they're not taking the time to find the ways that are measurable to fight the issues. If they're not out there fighting this as lawfare, which is how they've been attacking President Trump, all you gotta do is look at how do they attack people? Well, they complain and they sob and they have no argument that actually addresses the problem. They're a liar. They're a this, that. Well, what? How are you going to? That's not an argument. That's not an argument at all. And they don't do anything except for spread their propaganda in reverse. That's it. And so seeding company is a specialist United States financial institution that processes transfers of stock certificates on behalf of Depository Trust Company and Central Securities Depository used by the United States National Marketing System, which includes the New York Stock Exchange and NASDAQ. SEED and company is shorthand for FASE Certificate Depository. Appropriately, SEED means to give up. power or territory because investors give up their stock and companies give up their shareholds to an intermediary. That is what's happening. It's all a shell game. And you get people that come up with these nonsense, this nonsense. And, you know, I'm sorry, those of us who question things, we questioned it through COVID. We're questioning all of this stuff. You're questioning the bio labs in Ukraine that Russia was saying. I mean, don't question their belief systems because, man, they'll guard that little castle like it's the last rock to stand on instead of looking at things, not at what they want to defend, but to question it and make it stand the test of scrutiny. Yeah. And that's the thing is that, you know, a lot of people don't like when we get back to this talk about, you know, working in the underground dump, it was that, you know, site one twenty two. But what people don't understand is they were using a debt based system and they were also using the executive branch. three-letter agencies. We've got the United States Department of Agriculture, we've got CDC, we've got the HHS, right? Those are the three biggest ones, okay? What they would do is they would use them by going to them and say, okay, well, I need you to write an order to go to this person, and then this person writes an order to this person, and then this agency is going to write an order and is going to send it out to the manufacturing companies. So it looks like, for example, they need to get potato chips, right? And they want, say, six hundred metric tons of Pringles chips, right? They're going to go to the Pringles company and they're going to tell them, OK, you're going to make Pringles, but this is the way you're going to make them. OK, you're not going to put all these all these additional chemicals. And do you have to use, you know, use certain machines? You got to make them certain way. this is what you got to do, but you're not going to announce it to the public. Okay. And then what happens is they spend twelve months making all these chips. And every time they get done making these chips, they have a warehouse somewhere else and they deliver everything by their semis over to the warehouse. They drop it off and it's all stacked in pallets. So the first batch is going to be towards the end of the building where the big doors are. And then as they go throughout the whole year progresses, they start working their way to the very front, okay? And then once the government gets us information about, okay, we know it's twelve months into it, so then what they do is they go and they issue that company paper saying, we're here to confiscate your twelve months of supply of Pringles that you've manufactured that doesn't have any of these chemicals in it, right? So this company now has to take a hit. So they have contractors come in, but just show up with their semi trucks. They stay in their trucks. They don't actually get out and go up and talk to the forklift drivers. They just deliver everything right into the trucks. They close it up. They tag it up with a lock and tag. If that tag is busted, they can't enter the dumps with it. And then they steal the food for themselves. Right, right. So this is how they know that they can't be tampered. And when they come to the doms, everything, you know, the truck and all the driver, everybody, everything in it just put through an x-ray scanner. It goes through what they call the sniffer. Then, you know, detect if there's any other biologics in there that shouldn't be. It also sniffs for bombs. It sniffs for anything that's out of ordinary that shouldn't be there. They don't let a man until it's thoroughly investigated. And if it is a problem, a problematic situation. They have a way to reroute them to go back and go back out. They have all of the information of that driver, that truck, that trailer, and the contents inside, and they make sure that that stuff doesn't come back to the dumps. So it's really – the security is so tight. But the thing is is that they bring all the stuff in. Now, who puts the bill for – the twelve months of manufacturing for say little sprinkles right so they go to the insurance company they say okay we're gonna take a uh let's say it's a million dollar loss okay it costs us a million dollars to pay our employees it costs also the machines to run the electricity uh they have to purchase the potatoes from let's say idaho potatoes and make them right uh all the seasoning everything that goes into that business The insurance companies then will pay out a two million dollar loss to that company. The company only claims for one million, but the insurance companies will pay out two million. This is how they keep the companies running. and manufacturing food for the underground dumps. But this is what gets really interesting. The companies then can apply for grants from the federal government, okay? But they also do it through a backdoor system, which allows them to be able to recapture whatever money that they've lost in the books, right? They can fudge the books and they can get that recaptured back. So that's taxpayer dollars going out right there. Then the insurance companies will go to the federal government on and off the books, and they claim so much loss in revenue because you don't want to affect the shareholders. You can't make this stuff up. I mean, there's just no end to it. No, and it's just a perpetuation cycle that just keeps going on and on and on and on. It's been going on since nineteen forty seven. That's when they first started drilling for underground domes. Well, insurance is soft right now because they're not giving the insurance coverage to actually the people that are paying into it. They're giving it to the people who are creating the problems. in order to siphon the money away from we, the people, just like the taxes are doing, just like the people in our government is doing. It's all to disable all of us and put it in to them. So we're going to have to I've got to let my next guest come on. If you guys want to stay on, let me go to a quick break here a minute and then I will be bringing on Mel. And Joe and Renita, we're going to be talking about how they are, looks to me like committing fraud on people over the bond initiatives. So can you guys, if you guys want to stay on, Ralph, you want to stay on or are you going to take off? I'm probably going to need to get going. Okay. Sean, you want to stay on? Sure. I'll stay on. Perfect. I'll be right back. Good morning. Welcome to Brandenburg News Network. This is Donna Brandenburg. It's the second hour of May to twenty twenty five. And welcome to our show. I'm going to go right now to a group. They've been real patient on coming on this morning to a group that's fighting some issues in Midland. And it looks to me like we've got a real problem, but they're exposing all the things that are happening. with the bond initiatives and how they're being counseled on how to maybe leave some information out so that the voters don't really have a good amount of information. Morning, guys. How are you? Good morning. Good morning. Good morning. Good morning. Yes, I'm here. Yeah, ollie ollie and free. Everybody's here. So are you guys going to turn your cameras on or are you going to leave them off today? I will need to leave it off for the moment. Okay. No worries. Well, I want you to introduce this and just tell everybody what's going on. And if there's something you want me to share, just tell me what it is that you'd like me to share. And I will, in fact, try to put this stuff out because it looks to me like we really have a big problem with maybe intentional misleading of the voters when it comes to bond proposals. Is that accurate? It is. Unfortunately, it seems much of it's legal as we have been digging into more and more information on this process. Okay. The legal loopholes, like it happened with the ERISA Act of seventy-two, as well as what I suspect is happening with Ask My Tax, as well as the bonds. People were going to have to get smarter. So tell me what's going on there and what did you guys find so that everybody knows what's happening in Midland? OK, so just real quick, a little bit of background. Joe and I, we've been attending school board meetings for almost four years now and sitting in those meetings, giving public comments, questioning things. We've had multiple FOIAs. We FOIA their agenda packets, which is the information the board gets to make decisions at each meeting because we got tired of just hearing yes votes but never knew what they were actually making those decisions based on. which I currently have a lawsuit against the district because of the fees they were charging to get access to that public data. So when this bond proposal came out, we noticed that they were taking information that we were hearing the school board meetings, but it was being presented in a slightly different manner. And so we started to dig in and question things. And that's why we formed a committee called the committee for Midland students and taxpayers to oppose the ballot initiative. And that's kind of when the resistance started. It is a two hundred and eighty five million dollar bond, which over the course of the thirty three years of repayment will end up being almost a half million half billion dollars on the community, which is a sizable chunk of money. And you have a little graphic there that has the iceberg in it that kind of talks to the fact that we see above the water what it's costing, but there's so many other expenses and issues tied up in it that the people in the public don't understand completely. And we have actually even gotten the thirty eight eighty one form that was filed with the state of Michigan Treasury Department for the bond proposal. And we did go back and FOIA and get the twenty fifteen bond proposal because that was also passed ten years ago and the community is still paying on that bond. Wow. And do they have, I'm looking for all the stuff you sent me, you sent me quite a bit of stuff here. I'm going to see if I can pull some of this up. So this is, this is really shocking. So can you tell the attorney firm or the law firm that has been kind of, let's just say coaching them? Well, we came across a document early on in our campaign from Miller Canfield that if you look in the PDF, I sent, um, document, it has links and stuff to those websites that basically talked about campaign finance act or school district elections. And so it gave them information on the do's and don'ts that a school district could follow in order to put a bond proposal in front of the public. um so that's when we started questioning things because it looked like some of the stuff was kind of skirting those issues and so we I sent an email to that firm thinking you know they might be able to answer some questions um instead a week or so later it was brought to my attention that the Michigan Association of School Boards had posted a statement on their website. And basically it was going to the, how to back, it's called backing your bond initiative without violating campaign finance laws. So yeah, that was one of the things that concerned us. So this legal firm was basically providing cover fire And the first batch wasn't good enough. So they refined it so that it was very clear that they did not need to provide any information that was counter to their argument. They just needed to provide the stuff that was positive to their argument. So it's a sell job is what it is. It's a sell job on the, on the, uh, population rather than actually informing them and letting them make the choice. Correct. It was the unsuspecting public was only to believe what the school district said. And we have board meetings and other video clips and documents to show that they are constantly telling the public, don't believe anything that you see on social media. Don't believe anybody else. Only trust our data on our website. That's where the truth resides. Oh, that sounds familiar. Yep. So that was, we weren't willing to believe that. So we've done an enormous amount of research and collected our own documents and information and dug into things. And that's where we discovered, if you see some of the graphics with the survey demographic breakdown. I'm trying to download right now. I'm having a little bit of a trouble with it. So, so forgive me here. I'll, you know, we can do the best we can, but, but hang on for just a minute and I'll try to, I'll try to pull this up here in a minute for us. But if you keep talking, I will continue. I'll add to what Renita is saying there. Okay. It seems like they tell us they've been telling the public to go to the source probably since the campaign, their campaign kicked off, but they're, Their documentation wasn't even all up there. They're adding it, like, as Renita's asking, as Joe's been asking, as our committee's been asking. Then it's suddenly populated over there on their website. But it wasn't there from the start. Wow. So what you're doing is actually... Right. You know, that happens so often. It's really, really sad. I mean, you would really wish that you had, I don't know how to say it, people that would just do the right thing without basically having to, you know, just, I don't know. But it does come back to the fact that we have to hold them accountable. They're just not going to do it out of the goodness of their heart. Because quite honestly, what I see is a lot of people that just, that get into these situations, it's like the bottom of the barrel. I mean, they can't do anything themselves. So So they try to get themselves into these positions because they really have no ability to do anything else. Well, and that's kind of, I mean, Joe and I have been giving public comments for almost four years now at the school board meetings, dozens of times each. And the bottom line is we just want them to be transparent and open and honest with the community because We elected them, but we did have a board member at one of our election cycles two years ago, tell a group of people during a discussion for candidates that said, once you elect us, your job is done. And that is how he perceives his role on the school board. And he happens to be a lawyer. So that's not helping his argument with me. I'm just going to tell you that right now, because the bar has done so much damage. Just absolutely so much damage with, you know, because it's not a license to practice law. It's a private membership association. Hate to be the bearer of bad news here, you know, but I hope people understand the fact that the damage that the bar has done to the state of Michigan is shocking. Yes, and we have three current lawyers and a previous one that are on our school board. So that is one of the issues. That's crazy. I'm trying to figure out where I put this now. Oh, here we go. I'm trying to get to your documents because I had to save them all. Which one would you like me to put up first? Okay, so the ones that have the ABC with some writing next to it. Okay. Sorry, ABB plus. ABB plus. Don't have that. Let me start here and we'll see what I can do, okay? All right. So what we found, like Mel was talking to, the documents that are on their website are We had a presentation that we watched on the three options for this bond potential back in October. And after the meeting, we went out to look at the slideshow online that they had posted. Yeah, that's the one of the do's and don'ts for the lawyers that we were using to try to determine if they were following the do's and don'ts properly. I sent the question in about that. but in the one that has the other information, what we found is they actually clipped the bottom off one of the slides that had some data that didn't support their narrative. I'm going to assume it's this one right here. Oh, let's see. Got a little red call out on the side. I got it here. We're getting there. This is what I like about, about, um, Yes, Sean. Sean's writing in the private chat. So here we go. So there you go. No, that's the one for the, that's a different one. There's one that should have like a big ABB plus. And the circle's in the middle of the slide. What's that? Well, let's see if I can try it again. Hang on here a minute. A big yellow B in the middle of the slide. A yellow B. I've got a couple of, there's a campaign finance. single pages and there's one that says interviews. I'm not seeing that. Was it your last email or was it in a previous one? It was in the last one, potentially. You know what, if you can put it in the private chat, do you see how to do that? I can try. All right. While she's doing that, the key was there was a unfortunate piece of data at the bottom of the slide that the consultants provided when it was published by the school board that unfortunate stuff at the bottom and we called them out on it uh actually melded and we both all did saying where did this data go and they reposted it with the incriminating information at the bottom which basically said twenty five percent of the people who were in the survey didn't like any of the proposals so they put the full slide up there later on and it was able to be seen but yes but we now see that they have since taken down the full slide and replaced it with the clip slide again on their website for the proposal so that bottom little section that showed that how many couldn't support either of any of the options presented to the public they conveniently cut that little bottom section off just the bottom line one line there they clipped out. And so then you were not able, the public couldn't even see that of the people that they discussed these different scenarios with, twenty-five, twenty-six percent of them didn't like any of the options. But they've come to the public and told them, oh, the community voted and this is why scenario A is on the ballot. And the reality is There were only about seven hundred people that voted for that scenario. And we have forty six thousand voters in our district. I mean, there are seventy four hundred students. And so the school district uses a general term like the community voted for this. And they just assume is a really big group and they just got missed and the reality is it's less than a thousand people they only had about that even gave any input on this whole thing so and I did, by the way, send in a FOIA recently asking the school board. or the school district for a copy of all the documents that the consulting firm provided to the school board on this summary of survey results and after several days I got the we'll get back to you in ten days with our extension which of course they're lawfully able to do but that would be after the election when they'll finally give us that data so Now your election is next Tuesday? Correct. It'll be Tuesday. All right. So, yeah, I think that that's an awful lot of money for people just to rubber stamp without having their questions asked. But what's really interesting to me is how these local boards, township boards, school boards and such, how they will not answer the actual questions about about issues going on they gloss over it and they just kind of rubber stamp it it's like it's like our voices really don't matter because they're taking orders from above from somebody from above right that accurate yep it certainly seems that way because when we ask questions we get very generic terms even most of their media marketing campaign is then in generalities very seldom do you get actual numbers like for instance they just did a purchase of a robotics building four point one million dollars well we've been listening throughout this campaign for them telling the public oh, this middle school that we want to tear down and replace because it'll cost too much to fix it. If the boiler goes out, it'll be a million dollars. If the roof goes out, it'll be three million dollars. We just don't have that money. And then poof, all of a sudden, last month at the school board meeting, they raised their budget by about four million dollars. for this year so they could make room for this potential purchase which through a FOIA we found out actually a letter of intent was signed back in February by the superintendent and they've had three school boards since that date and only at the third school board meeting did they finally actually bring it before the board for a vote for them to sign a purchase agreement And, but they found their money, four and a half million for that project. And there's some memes that we do to try to get this information out and let the public know that, you know, we couldn't find money for that, but we, you know, we found money for robotics, but oh yeah, that all that security stuff and safety stuff we're putting in this bond, we don't have money for that, but we did for this building. I hope that people understand how much manipulation is going on out there. Do you have any memes you can share with me about what they're doing? Because I want to show you another thing that goes just to prove a point here on how manipulative these things are. I'm working with a group of people on showing what the DNR is doing to destroy our natural resources. This is a dam. It is approximately twenty feet deep. across the top from here to here. And this is their justification for getting rid of this dam. This is maybe eight feet, six, eight feet there. And it's three point nine, I'm going to say, I'm going to say probably eight feet, six, eight feet. And across there is three point nine Three feet, nine inches, and there's normally wooden slats here. They draw this thing down four feet in one day, and it looked like it was intentional damage. And you want to know what the state is quoting to basically fix this, which this isn't broken. There's nothing here that's broken. But to manipulate the people, they're quoting two point five million dollars to fix this. This is what's happening in our state of Michigan. It is organized crime. It's happening in the school districts. It is misleading. The DNR is on the top of my shit list right now because they're destroying the state. The school boards with all of their wonderful barred attorneys and these planning entities like Fresh Coast, which is a globalist type organization steering all of these townships. This is what's happening. This is how they're stealing our state. It's a local level thing. Can you send me some memes here that I can put up on this? I sent you an email with three of the memes attached to it. This is kind of interesting because in the state of Illinois, in Chicago, they were going to put up one of those public restrooms that are made out of concrete blocks that you go into and you go to the bathroom, right? And the city of Chicago quoted, I think it was like two point five million dollars for one of these. Right. But of course, that money changes like ten different hands before they actually start working on it. And then by the time it takes for them to work on and get finished, it's like almost two years later. Now, I have a contractor buddy of mine back in Iowa, and he built one for one of those small towns. It was twenty five thousand dollars. And he had it done in like two days. Well, you know, you know what the problem is. It's just like one of these, these things is nonsense is that they got to have their buddies that are within, how do I say this? Um, that, that are that our, um, here, let me see if I can post this into the chat here a minute. Um, that are doing all of the oversight and the engineering plans and the soil compaction and all of that nonsense. They're literally giving this work to their friends and buddies and panning the project I can't. It should be way simpler than this. And it should be managed on a local level that somebody's got, you know, a backhoe and somebody else has got a, you know, a cement, you know, a cement company. This should not come through the state. This should not come through these large entities. This is ridiculous. Going back to the idea of priorities, they have already started to remodel this new robotics building for another half a million dollars. But in our new school bond, they're talking about they want to add some bulletproof glass to some of the schools to increase security. It's not important enough to do that now with the twenty million dollars of extra money they put in their general fund recently, but it's important to remodel this building for four hundred kids who do robotics. Well, why don't we go to the core of the problem here was like, why don't we just, you know, at least pretend that we care about upholding the law and sending some of these people that are unstable either to mental health facilities. So they're not a, a threat to society. It's like, I've got a daughter who's really, she's really disabled and she's a problem. If she were out in public, she would probably be a large problem. And I'm not gonna sit here and paint a Pollyanna picture and say, this is okay. When people are as mentally ill, I mean, look at the video we put out there that you had, Shawn, about the zombie apocalypse. Some things we're just going to have to suck up and not make excuses for. We've got people that are out there unstable that have committed crimes and they just let them loose. So we're going to fix this by putting, you know, a bulletproof glass. Well, how much bulletproof glass do you have to put up to really keep people safe? That's included in our bond, though. That's part of their safety features that they're talking about. Oh, my God, these people are stupid. You know, I work full-time as a security consultant, and I've had two contracts with two different schools to actually present them a solution to their school security. And one of the schools, because of the type of the structure, the way the building was constructed, it's just a ground-level building that spans all the way across, you know. about two hundred feet. And I told him, I said, well, if the windows are an issue, I said, this is what I would recommend is not putting bulletproof glass in, but take the windows out and cement block them up, just completely close them off. You know, I said, when you're when you're the bad guy, you're on the outside of the school and you can't see in. You take away a lot of their desires to begin with, but I said, there's other simple little fixes that they can do magnetic locks on the doors. They could put in what they call standard operating procedure. This is something that the staff can do on a Saturday when there's no school and they could run through an, you know, situations. But I said. it doesn't take a lot of money to bulletproof your schools. But I said, even if you bulletproof your schools the way a lot of people are suggesting, I said, you're just, all you're doing is you're indoctrinating the kids into training them, get ready for a prison life, because that's exactly what your schools are treating their students. But I said, I said the real core of the issue is, and I told them they need to understand, it's a cultural problem. They need to change the hearts and the minds of people and get back to just common sense practices instead of pushing for a lot of the propaganda that they've been putting out. But, you know, again, I kept running into so much resistance from other schools. And the reason why, and the problem is, is the teachers unions. If you're not in their teachers union, they don't want you there. Why? Because they're more concerned about making, you know, a quarter of a million dollar salary a year. And push the drag queen story hour and all these other socially engineered nonsense projects. There's no education going on there. No. No, not at all. It's all about indoctrination. And that's something that more parents need to rattle the cages of anything. Like my wife and I, we actually took our kids out of school and we homeschooled them. But we didn't have a choice to be able to put them to a public school. We couldn't afford a private school because that's like, I think it was around eight thousand dollars a semester per kid. we decided okay we're gonna homeschool our kids and uh what's funny is that when my youngest one went to graduate from high school and she went took her um sat scores and she scored higher than everybody else in her class like way way higher um she's got offers to go to two colleges and universities but she was homeschooled for four years Yeah, one of the things we found when we were listening to the assumptions that were made on how this bond would be carried out, I'll let Joe kind of explain. Their house of cards is built on many things and including the millage rate and how much it's going to cost everybody. But as counter to the population surveys, they're assuming that the student population is going to go up five percent in the next five years. Sorry, two point five percent over the next five years, even though there are fewer babies being born in the state of Michigan since the nineteen forties, which lets you know they're not coming. They're assuming that they're going to have an average growth of one point six five percent in the taxable value, even though they haven't achieved that in seven of the last ten years. And they're also assuming that they will get a four and a half percent interest rate on their bonds for the next nine years. So there's all these assumptions to make their situation look rosy. If they screw up any of those assumptions along the way, our millage rates will be significantly higher than what it is they have predicted. Well, and look what they're pushing for. They're going to push for that growth. They have to have development and developers. So when you look at how all of this kind of stuff like dovetails together, it's just crazy. BlackRock has been buying up single family homes. So guess what? That pushes the development, leaving a lot of them empty. Sixty thousand. Sixty thousand single family homes. And they're leaving a lot of them empty so that it pushes up property values and rents in the areas. And oh, coincidentally, Ask My Tax is trying to help them get rid of the fifty billion dollar tax liability on those with no answer to the loopholes, which is what these people work on is it's all loopholes. If we if we don't start questioning these headlines because they're great at crafting them to lead us astray. and saying, as to your point, they've never hit the predictions. Who's getting the contracts on these two? Six million dollars to repair the Northeast Middle School, four point five for the robotic building renovations. Who is getting those contracts? And I don't know if you guys noticed this, but I did when they shut us down at COVID. Now, I want you to think about that. The words shut down. We had so much money and so much wealth. that transferred to these school systems. I've got a spreadsheet of the state of Michigan. And what did they do? All of them started building projects during COVID. Almost all of them did. And they were huge, huge projects. And nobody's questioning this. How did they do this when there was a shutdown? How come all of this building and construction went on new schools? You You know, it remodeled schools, added on schools, additions. I mean, it was unbelievable the money that they that was going around this state and who were the contractors that got the that got the bids. How are they tied in with these people making the decisions? Because There's money going back. It's just like somebody put a Wanda Lulu put out here. It's true. It's like most people don't even know that the courts have a department that they fill out forms from your straw man. Money goes to judges, attorneys, lawyers, then the living man pays it out. It's absolutely true. Low birth rate in Michigan and everyone moving out of Michigan. Are they out of their flipping minds? Well, and what's interesting is they have been able to take information and very selectively, like School of Choice, is something that is not mandated but optional for school districts we've noticed in part of this campaign marketing they're using is they're talking about how overcrowded a couple of our elementaries are therefore we need to build a new elementary oh yeah and put pre-k in all the buildings which is also not a mandated initiative but in so doing with school choice buildings that were already past their supposed goal of eighty five percent utilization, they still allowed a bunch of students to come in out of district to fill those buildings. And then they create a narrative that says, oh, look how full we are. So, oh, yeah. And by the way, they've tore down five elementaries in the not too distant past. And now they're coming back at us going, oh, now we would like you to build a new one. And so the taxpayers have been kind of policed on all of this. It's a lot of different information and moving parts. So there's no way for us to easily educate the public. So that's why through our website and through some newspaper ads and things, we've been trying to get as much information out there as we can to say, this is not as rosy as it appears they're showing all the nice shiny projects that everybody will get they've been blasting the eat the parents of the students with emails telling them oh if this passes because they can't say vote yes but they'll say if it passes look at all the bells and whistles and shiny objects you'll get to vote on and you'll get your students will get to have And so that's also another one of those things we were questioning going, they're using the emails that parents gave them to communicate about student related issues and school related issues, but instead they're blasting them with these, they're sending mailers and flyers home. Propaganda. What's your, what's your give me, please give me your, your Let's see, hang on a minute. This is what you do when you multitask poorly. What's your website? It's vote no MPS bond at weebly.com. Vote no MPS bond. There, I stuck it in the chat. Let me see. Oh, you're putting it in the chat for... Okay, here, you're putting it in the Rumble chat, which the problem is, you want to know something? I can't effectively grab it. It's Rumble, but I got it here. That's okay. In the Rumble chat, I also put a link to the document that I provided you that has a lot of the talking points and graphics with it. Just because this thing is so multifaceted that the public just kind of sees one little pamphlet and glossy that says, oh, it's for the kids, and that's all that matters is it's for the kids. And they like to move the public with emotions. And so one of the narratives is, well, if you are against this, that means you don't care about the kids and the teachers and education. My parents are retired school teachers, so I have plenty of information that says education is very important and we do support education, but we want effective education, not shiny buildings that just cost the community a lot of money, but are not doing anything to improve the academics of our students. There's a graphic that I sent you that shows the amount of money that is going to cost per pupil. So our spending for administration and expenses is going way up. Our enrollment has stayed pretty steady and our academic achievement has dropped. What is the graphic that you sent me? It'll be colorful and it's got four different lines on it, a red line that kind of goes up in a peak. to show that it's definitely not moving in the right direction. Okay. We're going to have to try to put that out there later. So we'll see what we can do. One of the keys that we keep running into is allowing especially senior citizens who have always voted for bonds, always voted for things, to let them have permission to say, this one's too much, because they're always in the habit of saying yes. And they're feeling guilty about not saying yes, but they're starting to realize, I can't afford to keep paying more and more in taxes. I'm going to lose my house. You know, and I have a solution. I think I have a pretty good viable solution to this. You know, if the Board of Education were to pay the parents to homeschool their kids, you know, say a mom, she could actually have a salary to teach her own kids, you know, education. I think there would be a more positive outcome and it would save like millions and millions of dollars worth of taxes, you know, having to go out and build and construct these buildings or whatever proxy projects that they want to, you know, have to spend that money on. There you go. There's the, there you go. The graph that Renita was just talking to is on that homepage. If you go down some. Perfect. This works good. it was taking a minute to come up, but we, we, we endeavored to persevere. We got it. Okay, here we go. There we go. Wow. You guys have really done a lot of work. This is fantastic. I love it that you're not cookie eaters and coffee drinkers. You're actually working. We are trying to educate the public. We know these off season elections are there because they don't want anybody to show up. Um, One of the things I did was get information last year after our May election, because we had a special millage renewal, which of course wasn't going to increase anybody's taxes. Well, kind of. But I found out the district spent a hundred and thirty three thousand dollars just on that campaign and eighty five thousand of it was just for the cost of the special election because they chose to do it in an off season. That's why these people could never make it out in the private sector because they have no ability to make good, sound financial decisions. It's incredible. And not only that, only seventeen and a half percent of the voters showed up. And so basically the eighty two and a half percent let the other small portion decide the next ten years of a millage renewal. with no input on their part. So one of our goals in this whole campaign has been to educate the public kind of like a big government class. And so we actually mailed that flyer that you were just looking at. It was a two page flyer and that information was sent out to twenty one and a half thousand households, which comprised the forty six thousand voters. Which flyer are we looking at here? What you're scrolling through right now is part of the two pages. That's the back page. But it was to give the community, one, to make them aware there was an election, because for the most part, people had no clue until our signs started popping up around town. And the other was to give them some information. And again, we want them to go research, look at our data, ask us about it. We'll give you the sources. It's all publicly available information that we've used to create this information gathering. and we wanted to make sure even people that have never voted before realize this is going to affect you if it passes for the next thirty three years and it doesn't matter if you're a homeowner or a renter one way or another it's going to impact you and it's going to impact the community they chose to make this a twenty five year bond instead of a fifteen year bond And that one fact alone is going to cost the community an extra eighty three and a half million, eighty eight, eighty eight and a half million dollars in interest over that extra ten years that we're paying on it. And that's just a waste of money. Nobody makes money except the banks. The community, the communities. Well, at that point, though, by being fifteen years versus twenty five, the only people in that extra ten years are the bankers, because that's just interest. And that's all money that does nothing to help the students, the teachers, the community. It's just money out of all of our pockets. for that extra ten years, but it was the only way they could keep their millage rate low enough for some of their talking points that, well, see, we're still going to be a little lower than the people around us, even with this increase. Did they not even think through that maybe all of this was a bad idea, the ones around them as well as themselves? You know, we're going to look at failure over here and we're going to compare ourselves to that failure and see we're not as bad as that. So vote for our failure. How's that? And don't worry because it's all for the kids. Again, it's just the emotional drive and they've gotten all the local business organizations to buy into it. So publicly come out in support of it. Few of the local elected public servants have come out in favor of it. Of course, the majority of the school board members have been out there with a little vote. Yes. Logo on their Facebook pages and answering and challenging. Anytime any of us post stuff, um, So we're just doing our best. We wanna make sure we have a huge turnout, way bigger than most May elections ever have. We also wanna have informed voters. We wanna make sure they've done enough research to know what they're voting on. I don't know if you can find the graphic on the ballot language. People think they're actually voting on something in particular. and the reality is what's on the ballot it's not the new elementary it's not the new middle school it's not the majority of what they've told us instead it is strictly here are your very general infrastructure terms of what you're giving a blank check to the school board to use over the next ten years while they're actually getting the four series out um where to click to bring that forward Let me see. I'm trying to remember which link it's under. And thank you for scrolling that home page. There's also thirteen more tabs there if you can't tell we're data people. So we provided the links to get people researching and yeah. Okay. So where do you want me to click? Mel, where's the information on the actual ballot language? You know what? I don't think we have it on here. I'm going to add that today. I think we have it on. We have it on the social media. On the what? We have it on our Facebook page. Yeah, we'll have to get that because it is just critical that people understand the whole school board. At some point, we have new people all the time coming on. They can pivot. In fact, the board member even told us that during one of the Q&A sessions, that if something changes in the next few years, we can actually pivot and do something different if the needs change. So what we're voting on is really a blank check. because that's all it's going to ultimately do is give them two hundred and eighty five million dollars to see what they need to. They claim that they've passed audits on the last bond, but all the audit does is check the classifications of what happens, not the individual projects. So you can still ask your audit, but have done something very different. Matter of fact, they found ten million extra dollars from the previous bond. And it's like, well, okay, that doesn't necessarily mean you actually did everything you said you were going to do. You did stuff. And they overestimated by ten percent, which is significant. And yet they didn't fix the boiler and the roof on the middle school that they went around and took pictures of and told the public how bad it was and it needed to be repaired, even though that money was supposedly in the last bond. But they never did the work. And so those are the kind of disconnects we try to point out through video clips and different things to the public to go, you know, they want to talk about an aging facility, but are they actually mismanaging the maintenance of it? in order to make it look bad enough to tear down rather than just fixing it. I saw like three schools when I went up to Gladwin this week that were just completely abandoned out in the middle of nowhere. I was really shocked at how many schools of these things are around the state of Michigan. Totally abandoned buildings, looks like it was completely devoid of maintenance. And you can't tell me that these buildings can't be maintained for the schools that they're in. I mean, look at the National Historic Districts around and people like myself say buildings that are way over a hundred years old, that we put the time and the effort in. I mean, they're much more complex than the schools that have been built in the last sixty, seventy years. So you can't tell me that they can't be salvaged if they continue to do the maintenance. But it's like their normal MO is that of a parasite. They just consume. They continue to consume. And they keep changing the concepts so that everything looks new and different. Like, for example, in the twenty fifteen bond, we got one brand new elementary school, state of the art architectural awards, new furniture that lets them move around and do all this open floor plan community or group activities and stuff like that. Well, it turns out that the new school has the worst reading levels for third graders in the whole district and has a lot of maintenance issues already. and so it's like we've already done the experiment your new and sexy stuff is not holding up versus the classic way of teaching it's for the teachers it's for the staff that's not for the kids right yeah so we do have the ballot language up there it's just not front and center on the resources tab okay we have a hundred page presentation we There's a video of it. Where is it? So very top, just the slides, it's called. Okay, hang on. I don't see it. I emailed it to you too. There's so much information. Okay. If I go here, you're going to have to walk me through it. See if I can find it this way. Where do I go? So go down slightly where it says just the slides. Oh, there you go. Okay. Yeah. Click on that box right there. It'll open the whole presentation. There we go. Page seventy. Page seventy. Okay. Hang on. Figure out how to work this minute. We've tried to do our best to educate the public and give them all kinds of opportunities to check out information. And that's why we ask them to just spend one hour and watch our presentation and then decide how they want to vote. But at least give us a chance because this is going to affect them for thirty three years. It's not a four year election, a six or eight year election. This is thirty three years of impact. With no accountability or standards that they have to meet. It looks like there's no actual accountability on this at all. If you read that stuff in the red box, that is literally the bond language, the ballot language that they're voting on. So it really is a blank check to do any of those things in the school district that the school board deems appropriate in the superintendent. And I'd like to see, like I said, what are the connections between the school board and the legal entity that's advising them and the contractors that are getting the bids? That's where you start seeing the money laundering. And one of the things that I've really become aware of is how they're doing it through the casinos. The contractors are doing it through the casinos. So they walk in with a bag full of money into the casinos and they can't be investigated because it's a, It's a nation. And then you'll ever notice that there's always a hotel next to that. And anybody that works in the area of child trafficking will tell you that's exactly what's going on there. They send people in there to money launder and then they get rewarded for it by by going and going to the hotels and check into the amount of child trafficking that's going on there, guys. And people, well, they would never do that. Come on, Agnes and Millie, let's go have a coffee because these are nice people. No, we're talking organized crime. There are so many layers of things going on that there's just no way to present it. And so that's why we try to do enough to make them at least question is it really as it appears before they vote next Tuesday. And then the important thing is they get out and vote. Do you have a video presentation on the site somewhere? Yeah, it's on that same page of resources. Okay, hang on a minute. Let me poke around on this just a little bit. It's on the homepage, actually. Homepage. All right. Let's go there. And walk me through this so I can find it for you. Towards the bottom. If you scroll down. Right there. Is that it? Okay. I got to be careful because you put it on YouTube, so I don't want to get a YouTube strike because whether you give me permission or not, they'll give me a strike on this. I know. So people can go there. We're going to have a discussion about the MPS bond that's on the ballot on May six. I'm part of the committee for Midland students and taxpayers. And we're the ones sponsoring all of the yellow and black vote no signs across. Do you have an original file that I could put up? Yes, that's my Patriot Grandma YouTube channel that goes to, which is where I put all the videos that we clip from public comments at our school board meetings and other resources to let people... I can let this presentation run here. I can post links to it, anything you want. If you can give me the original file, I'll go ahead and post that and then people can watch it. Whatever I can do to help you guys... You know, I do this all for free. So, you know, whatever. So do we. We are not paid to do what we're doing. That's what I love about the people that are coming on here. You know what? We're just people that are sick of their crap. That's what it is. One of the other issues that we're really trying to push here, this is only our second bond. We had done sinking funds before, which is pay as you go. This one, if we pass this, it's laying on top of the twenty fifteen bond. We're still paying off. They've already told us they're going to come back in twenty thirty, twenty thirty five with another bond, which will lay on top of this for even more extended period of time. So we're essentially setting ourselves up for perpetual bondage with this whole activity. So we're trying to break the cycle now before it gets out of hand. Well, it's already out of hand, it looks like to me. But, you know, somebody's got to stop and question it. But I think that's great. I really think what you guys are doing is spectacular. I love this. How many people do you have in your group up there of trying to get the word out? And is there anything that I can help with that? Well, at this point, because we're a few days from the end of the campaign, we've had about seven of us. Three of us are the highly active, doing most of the website and graphics for all the public presentation. We've just had something in the Midland Daily News. We were able... to put the Spadia, the little wrap that goes over the Thursday paper for the last two weeks. So it just came out yesterday again with a lot of information about this, trying to get that information to a public. Like last year's election, sixty four percent of the voters were sixty four and older. And seventy eight percent of that vote passed by absentee ballot. So our goal is to get the people to the polls next Tuesday and get them to actually voice. And at some point, yes, we strongly believe it's the wrong thing to do to pass this. But we want people to get educated and get involved in this whole process of government like they were supposed to do as part of their civic responsibilities. And there's a graphic I use frequently, and it talks about the fact our silence is our consent. You're consenting to the will of those that show up and vote. So that is part of why we're doing this is going, how can we educate the masses about That it's important that they learn about what's on the ballot and then they vote. It's not an emotional thing. They need to actually collect the fact, do some research. Don't let just one group tell them how they should vote, but look into what is really on the ballot, what they're really approving. And the fact that it is literally a blank check to do things. It's not the shiny, glossy flyers they've spread all over the community at all their sixty plus presentations. So. Yeah. That's kind of weird. Really, really sad that they've got, but this is how propaganda works, you know, and who is, who is funding all of these activities? There's a question I'd love to see. I would really like to see all the connections, you know, sometimes, sometimes if you get into an investigation like this, which is what I really like to do is to look at the connections that all these people on the school board and the attorneys have to other organizations and to see who they're in bed with. You could see that with Goshen Plant, with their little China scheme going on there, and how much money Gretsch the Wretch has put into China and their contacts. Seven point fifteen million dollars was another latest little faux pas that got out in the public, but, you know, watching this. But you can see the connections to the MEDC, Michigan Economic Development Corporation, The Right Place, all of these. These people can't stop themselves, and they keep recycling back into the purview if you're looking. I'd really like to see if those entities are involved in it or if we could connect the people and – MEDC and some of these other organizations, they're nothing but tyrannical theft mechanisms that they've installed within our government. All of these unelected, unconstitutional organizations that they have weaponized to the population, it's incredible. And it's hard for us to obviously get behind the scenes and all the finances. So that's why we've kind of challenged it out with the public data that we do have access to so people can check our resources and the information we're sharing. I know at first there was an argument by a school board member that, oh, well, it's like a mortgage. Nobody ever asked for the bottom line. You just know how much money you borrowed. And we're like, no, no, it is a half billion dollars because it's four hundred and eighty seven million estimated with interest. So just to say it's two hundred and eighty five million is ignoring the two hundred and two million of interest that doesn't benefit anybody but a necessity. So. I want to have everybody ask some questions here because I think this is really a significant bit of information to bring up. Okay. How many ways can they continue to extract money from everyday Americans And all of these things that are set up to, you know, trigger our emotions. How many more ways can they do this before we get fed up with it and say we're done? When have they given any of you out there anything that's actually made your life better? I'd like to have one instance that somebody could tell me that we're getting a return on the extorted tax dollars that they are taking from us. I'm not seeing anything. I'm seeing the everyday American having to work harder They're manipulating inflation. They're manipulating the tax dollars. They're manipulating our property values. They're manipulating the insurance that's going into this. They're manipulating the education process. And we're getting no outcomes. I'm sorry, but people are getting dumber. All you got to do is look back in time to the nineteen thirties, the nineteen forties, what they were able to do and engineer without having somebody babysit them along the way. We can't even read. I can't even hire somebody right now who can't get off their phone every second of the day or worried about what they're going to be drinking or who they're going to be sleeping with on the weekend. I mean, it is absolutely, I don't know if the younger people understand how badly that the DNR and EGLE are destroying the state of Michigan. I just came back from up north, and I'm going to thoroughly document this, but this is a destruction. This is a complete destruction of our nation going on, and until people wake up, You're going to have nothing unless we start fighting this together. And I don't mean as Democrats or, you know, or Republicans, because they're cults. They're absolutely a threat to this nation. They're ties to the same coin, basically. And that's why even with this bond issue, this is not a Republican Democrat. It is very nonpartisan because it is all the taxpayers funding. And I know the school board likes to try to use a little narrative that says, oh, this is just a dollar a day, just a dollar a day for thirty three years with inflation. So actually one hundred thousand dollars. house taxable value over thirty three years is eighteen thousand dollars so it's just a dollar a day but if you take in the assumptions of inflation it actually adds up to a significant amount of money and again the bulk of that is going to the banks And look at how they gaslight everybody. You don't care about the children. If you cared about the kids, you'd be giving them an education instead of funding these huge unions and such because kids are getting left behind. I don't care what anybody says. They don't need these ridiculous palaces and not come out with an education, but just indoctrinated to the teeth and destroying families by putting them into every cockamamie scheme possible. to break the families up well like john said if we just take the money that we're giving in the school system to parents to educate I mean we're at about fifteen thousand dollars per student a year for education that with with our budget amount and our attendance that is where we're at it has gone up it used to be about ten thousand now we're up to almost fifteen Well, I didn't know that the last time I saw that is that with or without the meds for ADHD to medicate our kids into zombie, a zombie state. or is that just straight cost, education cost? That is our cost if you look at our budget versus our enrollment, and that's what that one little graph showed with the red line that was going up and up. We have consistently added overhead of administration and DEI coordinators and SEL counselors and all these other things to our budget, and we have directors for this and that, and But they like to go, but we're actually not that bad compared to some other districts. So we're really in line, but we're just going, but it's so much money that we're spending. And yet academically, we're not green gaining ground. So what are they proving with a ridiculous statement like that? How dumb can you be? Well, they like to challenge us out on Facebook and tell us we don't know what we're talking about. And, again, they just make blanket statements without a lot of numbers and facts to back it. So that's why we're trying to produce those numbers and facts so that we can do it. Okay. I'm going to go ahead and cue this up in a minute. This is about, what, an hour long presentation? Yeah, that one's an hour. And we've got it set up so you can download it directly. Okay. have it available. So I can go ahead and play this one, um, and just let it play out if that's what you guys would like me to do. Um, and, uh, let this play for people to watch if they'd like it. What, what would you like me to do? How can I be most helpful? Um, that's fine. Or by sending them to our link, it depends. It'll be on your replay, I guess, if it's out there recorded, which is fine. Um, I don't want to take away from your audience, though, if you'd rather have me put the link there. I did put the YouTube channel there. And you know what I'll do? I'll put this on my Telegram channel if you want to find it there. Or I could just let this thing play and people could push this out here while you're talking. It's up to you. I'm just here to help. Right, well, like I said, we want people to be aware of this and people that are fighting bonds in other communities, just to be aware of what school boards and districts are allowed to do when they present information to the public. They can omit any data that doesn't support what they're trying to get pushed through so if they want to clip a slide and remove unfortunate data or they want to only give you generality facts instead of giving you all the details that's perfectly legal which is really sad so the people need to understand how easily they are being manipulated if they don't actually take the time to dig in and educate themselves before they go to the polls and vote MPS even turned off the Wayback Machine for a while in order to not have records being created that we could go back and find. Oh, man. These people are going to stand before God someday, and it's not going to be a good moment for them. So I tell you what I think would be a cool thing to do, okay? I posted the link on my Telegram channel, which is at brandenburg, number four, M-I. And Sean had a song that he wanted to put out there because Sean's been doing some music. So why don't we do that? And then we'll say a prayer. And then what I'm going to do, let's see if I can put your song up here a minute, Sean. And Sean creates music and they're wonderful. If you have never listened to Sean's music, you should jump on there and A lot of it's motivational, but a lot of it is music that supports the conventional marriage. And it's to uplift and inspire people. But in some cases, it's to make people kind of look and understand that, you know, What is our government doing? What are they doing with our money to question the narrative that the mainstream media is putting out there? And there's just so so many fake news of this coming from the mainstream media. And is affected so many people and we're talking good people. There's good people out there. It's just they get so caught up in the brainwashing process and. So I wanted to put something out there that's more motivational to kind of get people to think about what they're watching and what they're hearing, like with this song called Fake News. Well, and I think that's great. And I really appreciate all the work you do with this, Sean, because your information and your music is just really inspirational and And I appreciate you always, Sean always shares his links on TikTok with me, which is kind of nice. It breaks my day up a little bit with, you know, researching stuff that nobody really wants to look at because it's just like, you know, you look at this horrible stuff all the time, which really it's the only way that we get to the bottom of analysis on why things are bad is that we have to put ourselves in. And it's kind of a sacrifice to do that for those of us who are doing what, you know, Renita and Joe is doing and Mel and Sean and myself, we're putting ourselves, we're immersing ourselves in this to try to figure a way out and finding these solutions. You can't find solutions unless you're actually willing to do the work. And it's not like the most fun thing on the planet. If anybody thinks running for office is a good thing, you know what? I got a lot of news for you, you know? Absolutely. That's why we are getting these psychopaths that fill the seats because you look at this and you go, who in their right mind would want a job like this? This looks like the worst. I'd rather shovel horse manure all day than deal with this kind of stuff because there's like, there's like nothing fun about it. Okay. There's nothing fun about this and get an office. If you're an honest person, there's nothing fun about this at all. It's not a fun job, but it's a necessary job. And it's something that if we're going to leave anything for the next generation, we have to be willing to do what Renita and Joe and Mel and Sean and myself and Ralph and all the people that you see here on BNN, who nobody gets paid. Nobody's getting paid for this. This is what adults do. We just take care of business. And that's what's going on here. I would invite everyone to join us in order to take this nation back and put good information out there because we need more help. I've got, I've got some, some big stuff coming out here that, that I'm doing. And I'm going to tell you what, pray for all of us every day, because we're putting ourselves in arms, in harm's way. I don't really care. You know, it has to be done. That was a decision Joe and I made almost four years ago was that This was our legacy that we wanted to be able to have an impact by helping educate the community and getting people involved to learn and understand better what's going on and why they need to step up and be involved. Definitely. And it's kind of like, you know, for years I worked as a security consultant, usually in the residential sector. And, you know, a lot of my job is teaching people how to do home security like they're supposed to. We've gotten so far away from knowing how to do our own home security. This is common knowledge back in the the eighteen hundreds and and early nineteen hundreds and then rocker dwellers came along and they said hey uh let's start creating devices uh and let's let's figure out a way to make money on this monopolize this make money and take the education away from people make them dependent on us And, you know, so like part of my targeted job was essentially just teaching people, you know, how do you do your own home security? It just focuses on three really basic steps. You know, it's not it doesn't it's not a rocket science kind of thing. But this is something that I have been learning. passionate about for years. When I got blacklisted in the security community, they've done everything they can to suppress this information from getting out. I would do all the research. I would show all the facts about monitoring companies, how they actually do not help people secure their own homes, and the dangers of how they use third-party companies to come out and install these things. A lot of times they fail. And their duties to do so. And it ends up with somebody getting murdered. Or robbed. Or home invasion or something. A lot of it is just worthless. Just like a TSA. What do they got? An eighty five percent failure rate. And just oh by the way. I do remind them of that when I go through TSA. It's like. I've done it before. I'm like are you really proud of your job right now. Knowing that there's an eighty five percent failure rate. In you catching anything. And I say it to them. I'm like, so does this make you proud of your job? Does this make you proud that you gave to the people out there that you gave people the clot shot? Does this make you proud of you? Does this make you proud teachers that you're part of this situation that is about extortion and theft? Does this make everybody proud of what they're doing or do we walk away from this? When we look at the round robin, they play with the money. Just so everybody knows, every one of our municipalities across the state of Michigan is broke. They are totally and completely broke. They took the poison pill of the extorted federal tax dollars, which we shouldn't be paying any direct taxes federally. It's unconstitutional. But they've taken a poison pill. They're taking directives from the globalists that are in charge. Your township cities, your school districts are completely broke and totally dependent on federal dollars. And if it's not there, you got nothing. And then they keep selling you this kind of nonsense. It's a critical state right now and people are going to have to make very difficult decisions and not be stupid about things like Ask My Tax, which is not telling the whole story, just like the ERISA Act back from nineteen seventy two. They left the loopholes in and I don't care how much you want to believe the hopium that these things are going to fix things. They are not. This isn't the way to do it. And it's a waste of time, treasure and everything. Keep your money because you're going to need it. Well, we really appreciate your giving us the opportunity to get on and share some information and hopefully it'll help others learn as well. Oh, anytime. Anytime can be a help to anyone. You know, I'm just out here, you know, picking my way through life, trying to help people have a voice because it's just like with the bond issue you have. They're not giving you a voice. And the news media is not going to give you a voice because they're all in it together. Yeah. Well, let's say thank you very much. Yep. I want to say a prayer. And then what I'm going to do is I'm going to full screen this and I'm just going to let this play through the end and tell it, tell it's done. I'll come back and check on it, uh, occasionally. And I think it might be a good thing to just play it and make it, you know, cause I'm, I think I've got like, I've got like a lot of different, uh, venues that we're out on. We've got two tour nodes. We're on Odyssey, which is a, which is a, uh, blockchain. So that pretty much is their nightmare of never going away, those two issues. We've got two Rumble channels. We've got X. We've got a YouTube channel up now, Facebook. I can post it to several other places. There are about eleven different ways this thing goes out for being on. So when you look at the number of people watching, you're only getting a really small slice of it when you start adding this up. And because it's a long format interview, the numbers significantly go up over time because people will they kind of tune in, you know, live. But again, It's the documentation of what we're doing that is what's important because these people are going to be brought to their knees by justice at some point in time. And we're documenting it. We're storing it. We are distributing it everywhere we can because I don't get paid for this. I fund it. And that's the way it is because I want my country back. And so it's going to be out there. They cannot take this down. It's never going to come down. And I'm not taking it back. So let's say a prayer here a minute because I want to ask God's blessing. Dear Heavenly Father, thank you so, so much for Renita, for Joe, for Mel. for Sean, for Ralph, for all the amazing people that are out there. All my buddies up there fighting the DNR up in Gladwin and are documenting all of the stuff that is illegally and unlawfully being done by these state and federal agencies, which are an organized crime syndicate. We are so thankful for your blessings and that you're leading us out of captivity, just like you always had your people. We are so thankful for everything you've done. And you know what? Even when things look bad, when it looks the darkest, we know that you're walking with us, that you're showing us the way, and that we're walking through the darkness together as your children, with you leading us, showing us what it is that you would have us do. We just, you know, there's a lot to celebrate. There's just so much to celebrate out there. And seeing your hand at work when things seem to be without hope, and then all of a sudden, You flood us with miracles and miracles that we cannot possibly even foresee coming in. All we got to do is just keep following you and walking and not giving up and not saying it's hopeless and walking away. I've heard that so many times from people out there. Why should we get involved that there's no hope? Well, you know what? I'm going to say there's hope because you're here. And we trust you. We trust your plan. We trust your leading. You're good all the time. And you know what? We're not going to rely on what we see or hear. We're going to rely on you and knowing that there's no problem out there that's too big for you. And so we lay all of this at your feet. I ask that you would give your incredible help and favors. and honor the work that Renita and Joe and Mel have done putting this stuff together tirelessly without, I'm sure with a horrible uphill battle, with being maligned and lied about and having the naysayers attack them and the things that are in their path that would stop a normal person that doesn't have faith in you. I thank you for that so much and may your favor just rest rest strongly upon them, every single thing that they've done, the presentations they put together, and that you would put incredible barriers in the way of the enemy, which is Satan himself. I ask that you would confuse all the demons, that they would not know what to do, that they would be silenced, and that truth would go out forward, your truth, The ultimate truth in all things. We ask that you would help people find you and know that you care about everyone. It's amazing how much you love us. I can't even imagine a human being that has the capacity to put up with this kind of nonsense and still love us when we do things wrong. And all of us are struggling a little bit, trying to do the right thing and figuring out exactly what's right and what's wrong. Please make this clear. Give people a clear mind that can sort through things, discernment and wisdom, and also grace for each other as we make mistakes, as we're trying to find our way out of us. You have been such a wonderful friend to us, and we want to be a friend to you. You're amazing. We love you. And we all ask this all in the name of our precious Savior, Jesus Christ. Amen. Amen. I'm going to give my last, my last minutes that I always do. Everybody go to brandenburgforgovernor.com because I'm the best non-conceder who has ever not conceded in the history of the United States of America. And I'd like to have a discussion with President Donald J. Trump about this and cowboy boots with our, let's see, our horse garb on there. I've got my Ariat stuff on right there. and see who does it better. Just so everybody knows out there, that's my twenty twenty two protest that I've got going on because they lied, they cheated, they stole and they're still doing it. So, you know, I ask God's blessings on all of you. Stay in the word of God and you will have that discernment He will lead you through his Holy Spirit into all truth. He promised us that. He promised us that he wouldn't leave us as orphans. And he didn't promise us an easy path, but he promised to walk us through this and be with us every step of the way. So that's what we got. So with that said, I'm going to bless everybody right now. And then I'm going to put this presentation up and just let this roll. I'm going to be working on lawsuits again today because I'm I have more coming. This is going to be a boom. It's like, come at me, guys. I'm just going to come back harder because I'm sick of it. I'm sick of all of it. So you can attack me all you want. I find it amusing. It doesn't hurt my feelings because I really don't care. We're going to go down this path to do the right thing. And we're not asking permission from the liars, cheats and thieves and the narrative creators. And that when they attack me, it is a badge of honor. I've got a whole wall of them. Okay. of being attacked. And I'm pretty much Teflon at this point in time. So I just throw me what you got. It's going to be okay. And with that said, God bless you. I'll tell the good people out there. I mean, there's a division here between good and evil. Believe me, there's a division. Most of the people out there are really, really good. I'm just saying this because for the bad people, we're putting them on notice. Some of us don't run. Some of us will run right into that fire because we're not gutless cowards like you are, okay? And the good people that are out there, remember, God is fighting for us. He's fighting for you. He's fighting for me. He's enabling his warriors to go out there and get a job done, and we aren't backing down. Please join us. Please join us. Pray about it. find out what you feel about in your spirit and ask God to tell you, he'll tell you, he'll tell you what's true or not. And, uh, and question everything. So with that said, God bless you all. God bless all those whom you love and God bless America. Make it a great day. Have a wonderful weekend. The opportunities to change the world are all around us. We don't come in and change the whole world at once. It's by every act that we do, every word that we say, every smile that we keep on our face, like the Boy Scouts handbook when we go in, And refuse to let them drag you down. It's the ultimate act of defiance. And it's an act of bravery and heroism. So let's do the thing. I'm going to go ahead and put this presentation up. And have a great weekend. I will go ahead and play this. Let's see if I can put it up here. And just watch this presentation and go to their website. It's on my Telegram channel. And I wish you all great success. in the coming week with a selection. Thank you so much guys. I love you to pieces and it was wonderful having you. Thank you. Have a good day. Thanks Donna. Okay. Sorry, guys. I just had an alert that said the sound was off on the presentation. So we're going to go back and do this over again. And my apologies. This is my fault. Here we go. We're going to start it over again. Starting it over at the time stamp on this is two hours and forty minutes. And my apologies to everyone. Okay, guys. I'm really sorry. We're still having sound issues. And I feel this is important. I apologize. Let's see what we got going on here. Good evening. We're going to have a discussion about the MPS bond that's on the ballot on May sixth. I'm part of the committee for Midland students and taxpayers. And we're the ones sponsoring all of the yellow and black vote no signs across the county right now. Our sources of data, we're using data from MPS website form WE'VE BEEN ATTENDING PRESENTATIONS AND COMMUNICATING WITH STAFF FROM MPS, AND ALSO THE MICHIGAN SCHOOLDATA.ORG. AND THIS SLIDE PRESENTATION WILL BE UP ON OUR WEBSITE AFTERWARDS, AS WELL. MY NAME'S RENITA BONADES. JOE AND I HAVE BEEN ATTENDING SCHOOL BOARD MEETINGS NOW SINCE JULY OF, AND REGULAR ATTENDERS, LOTS OF PUBLIC COMMENTS AT THOSE. We've also been to at least five, I think, of the presentations and maybe more of MPSs on this bond, particularly, just to hear more information, listen to the Q&A and the responses to the Q&As. This is just a list of some of the different topics we're going to be covering that have different facets of this bond that may not be covered in the same way publicly, so we want to get the information out there. This flyer was one that was mailed out to pretty much the whole community, I think. So I don't know if all of you got it that are in the district, but it should have gone to almost all the households. I know we received one at our house. So we're going to kind of cover these in the course of the discussion this evening. First topic is Northeast Middle School. Seventy-five years old. Does it need to be replaced? So one of the sections on that was talking about aging facilities. They discussed the teaching methodologies have evolved and improved over the years. Because of this, MPS facilities must be enhanced to support student learning, which is something we hear about at our school board meetings. There's just a new method to teach that requires a whole different structure in the classroom in order for the kids to learn effectively. This is a presentation that we watched back in December of twenty three. At that point there was a Barton Mallow report that was put out and they gave three different options for Northeast and one of them was what they're putting on this bond which is to replace it within the next eight to nine years. The other is to reinvest in it and it could last until it's about a hundred and two years old before replacement. or we can do some interim repairs now in about twenty forty seven do a replacement of it so the argument was it'll cost you forty eight million dollars more and we kind of question but do we even need it at that point so can we get it to that point and see where we're at as a community and a school district So they said that they decided in twenty fifteen that this needed to come offline in ten years. So therefore they did minimal maintenance on it just to help it to last. And then all of a sudden we were told not only could it not be refurbished, now we have to replace it even though if you look at the bond it's not even proposed for another nine years. But we're assured it will be kept safe and useful during that nine years. So we don't know why the narrative changed from the possibility of replacing parts and upgrading as opposed to having to tear down the whole building and replace it. So refresh maybe, but replace we question. This is another report, this is off of their website, and this is the Barton Mallow study that on this it even shows there was an improvement that could be done That was never presented to the public as an option. The only option the public was given was this eighty-five million one up here that said it needs to be replaced. So the public really as a whole didn't even know that was an option to do an enhancement to extend the life. I did hear at the Friday meeting that there was a comment that it could cost forty-one million. Even the forty-one million is here. but that was a running total based on money that was already put in back in like ten years ago and stuff, as opposed to the current. So the actual number on their slide was thirty-four million. So the initial costs of the two options, eighty-four point four versus thirty-six point six, cost over twenty-five years with interest, you're looking at a hundred and forty-four versus sixty-two, cost difference over twenty-five years, eighty-one million dollars. And that would give us time to reevaluate what the need really is in the community. This is the report that they just put online. So this is out there. This is a study that the state of Michigan did of structures around the state. And this is a rather lengthy, I think it's forty-nine pages or something. You can go through, and it goes through each of our school buildings, did a whole walkthrough of all the different systems, told what was good, what needed replaced, gave cost estimates for all the schools. So on this, you're looking at about six million dollars of repairs to all of our buildings to make them healthy, according to this report. And you'll see that up here, Northeast was showing six million, so. It's the state's report. I don't know how valid it is, but it was the one that they walked through with somebody from our district while they did this of all the buildings. This is just MPS data. We found inconsistency with building dates. Only three of them were consistent between the thirty eight eighty one for the bond back in twenty fifteen, the twenty twenty five thirty eight eighty one, and then an FAQ that is on MPS's website and We weren't even sure why all three of those could not line up with the date that these buildings were built. So if seventy-five years is the new replacement norm, Northeast is the second oldest building behind Carpenter. But then the next ones that are going to hit seventy-five fairly soon are Plymouth and Midland High. And the question is, can the taxpayers afford to keep replacing buildings instead of maintaining them? This is a building in Grand Blanc. It's one I attended when I was in sixth grade. That building is still standing today. They mothballed it for twenty years from the mid-seventies to the mid-nineties because they didn't need it. They reopened it. It's now a magnet primary school, and my grandchildren go there. So it's still functional. It may hit its end of life soon, but certainly not at seventy-five years did they tear it down. So the aging facilities, again, do we, Midland High, sixty-eight years old, but they have forty-three point nine million dollars in this bond as a remodel. The end of life is coming up in just a few years, and so are they going to tear it down after they just put all that money in it that we're going to continue to pay on ten to fifteen years after the building has been torn down and replaced? So if this is the model and the narrative we're hearing, do we really have a plan for the future that's affordable for this community? School choice, is that causing overcrowding? And do they go hand in hand? Space utilization, something they make a big issue of in all of their presentations. They talk about their designated amount of seating capacity they would like. They would like everybody at But we looked at the school choice numbers and what they're doing in the elementaries where they're claiming they are at that capacity or even above a hundred percent. So on this slide, this is what they show the current utilization's at. So you'll see Woodcrest is over a hundred. They say they have a target of eighty-five, but you'll also notice district pre-K is another one of their goals in this whole program. So as school overcrowding by design, if MPS really wants to hit that eighty-five percent target, why are they allowing school choice in those buildings that are already at capacity? And just a reminder, school choice is optional. It's not a requirement. It was asked at one of the meetings during a Q&A. And they asked why we don't restrict that. And they said, well, if we do, the other districts might not let our kids in. And their response of the person that asked the question was, do we know that for a fact? Well, we would just think that. Well, the reality is if they have capacity, they're going to take the students because it comes with dollars. So this is the school choice from last year. They're getting ready to release the one for this year. And you'll see, this is Woodcrest. They left forty six seats open for school choice to come into that building, even though we're at a hundred percent capacity now because of that. So the question is, why did they allow all the seats to be open if they were really that crowded to begin with? And this is, we actually just got this one updated to the twenty-four, twenty-five. And you can see the top line, those are the students leaving MPS for school choice. And the blue line are kids coming into the district, which you can see has actually been dropping a little bit for those even choosing to come here. This, you can't read very well, but it'll be on the slide deck. to just show where schools, where the students that are coming into the district are coming in from. And this shows where they're enrolling out of the district. So this looks at, this is the data we got for this school year. And again, you'll see how many school choice, those were resident school choices, which means they moved them within the district by choice. And then you'll see this one, At Woodcrest, we still continue to take out of the district people and out of the county even into our schools. So I did a little analysis just assuming they actually filled all the seats they made available on their request list. And right now we're sitting at ninety three percent in our utilization of our buildings. If I go back and pull out those school choice numbers, we're actually sitting pretty close to eighty five percent. So the question is, are we really serving our students and making them the priority by keeping our capacity at the level we claim is our goal? Or are we more interested in getting the money for the students and we take as many as we can fit and overcrowd our schools? This chart shows you on this one, the green line is just our students that are in district. The blue is all the students that are coming in through school choice and this is since twenty seventeen. And the orange line down here is our eighty five percent target utilization. So without the school choice coming in we're actually pretty close to the eighty five percent they say we need to have as a target. This was one of them that they presented in the December of twenty twenty three as a before and after utilization scenario. And they claim after the new building is built that we're going to have utilizations as low as in the seventies at these buildings. But then I was given something by an MPS staff person, administrator, below seventy-five to eighty percent may indicate inefficient use potentially leading to consolidations or closures. So again, it's their data. And you go, it doesn't really make sense. But actually, it does, because they're really not opening up as many classrooms as people are being led to believe. So are we really getting what's being promised if our current utilization is ninety-three? Are class sizes actually going to be smaller? They tell us, yes, they'll be smaller. Will Northeast have the same capacity? We're guessing, but we don't know what the real projection is. Do we know the projected capacities at all the buildings? We've not really seen that except that other slide which would tend to say we're not properly utilizing the space in our buildings. So what's missing from the presentation? The utilization numbers after all this money spent is still very foggy. They don't discuss class sizes. They say the only place if this doesn't pass to take money out of the general fund is going to have to come out of the teachers and the para pros to do the repairs that are needed. We say that they become very top heavy in the administration at MPS. Why not cut there? So this is a sample of the budget since twenty nineteen. We started going in twenty one. So I remember when we started the budget was somewhere in the eighty million range. But I noticed that at the March meeting that we just had, they just voted to increase the budget over what it was. It was a hundred and thirteen million, now it's a hundred and sixteen million. So that's a forty two percent increase just from twenty nineteen until twenty twenty five. You'll note inflation's only gone up twenty four percent, but we've really seen almost no change in enrollment during that time either. So that's all overhead. And of course our test scores aren't showing that that's affecting them. For those that aren't aware, we had a new superintendent that was hired last year about this time. And shortly after she was hired, there was a new budget that came out in June and it was approved at a meeting. And then we noticed on the July agenda that someone now had a new title. And we actually added a fourth assistant associate superintendent position. And you'll see that's about two hundred and thirty thousand a year, which is equivalent to a little more than two buses, just as an FYI. So why did we need yet another superintendent at the head of our district? So this chart shows you what's happening. This is where our costs are going per pupil. This is our enrollment and where it's going. And these are our test scores, which we'll talk about a little bit later. So right now, we'll switch over and look at the pre-K. Hi, I'm going to help go over a topic of pre-K. So Great Start Readiness Program. Stand here. Oh. there we go okay okay so on the mailer one of the second points on there is preschool early childhood trends so the district already has some pre-k students in this GSRP program they're in one building they want to expand this program so what to do it to move these littles And to expand this program, what they want to do is move them into the elementary. So take them from one building and move them into all potentially seven new buildings. So it's going to require more coordinators, more certifications, allowing these students to be put in an age group that goes up to fifth grade, into a building with all of that, and potentially bus rides. So right now, their pre-K programs are housed in one building, an old elementary carpenter. It's ninety-nine years old. It still has fireplaces, which is apparently a huge hazard, but right now they're still using that building, so how big of a hazard? Again, they want to expand this because they can only house so many, even though it's an elementary building, it should be opposed to how many students at one time. And they want to take it offline, so not continue to use it. And to move it into potentially a new elementary school, plus the other six that are existing, two classrooms at all of those elementaries across the district. So you can imagine how many students they could fit if they could fill that. But of course, that's where all this utilization is being taken up with, these additional students that are now going to be classified elementary. So and they're going to need new pre-k coordinators and certifications across all of the district elementaries then. Also if this bond goes through and they no longer need carper and dollar elementary for this pre-k program they could potentially sell it to generate income But instead, in the plans for this bond, what they want to do is demolish it. So pay six hundred sixty three K to demolish it. Similarly, what they did with East Lawn. And then they sell the property for some small amount. So they're not really gaining anything back. Instead of using it, selling it and why do they want to demolish it do they want to keep competition out so that we don't have potential new charter schools coming or any other child program that could be put in there or it's just a piece of Midland history it'd be sad to lose it if it's it's not really end of life pre-k tuition free pre-k is a state program and the goal is to have seventy five percent of the four-year-olds in this program of course you get more money for pre-k students to be able to hold them and license them in the room they need more adults per pupil but does this Having two classrooms added to each elementary school, of course, creates a need for a new elementary school, because you're adding two new grade levels, potentially. But again, it's not legally required. It's an optional program from the state. And they want to put on the taxpayers the cost of these building spaces to bring this pre-K program in. It's not that there's not already pre-K offerings in the area and public preschool already being offered it's being offered in the carpenter building it's being offered in other areas there's a head start program and then there's private preschools and some of these preschools are either gonna have to adapt and start offering this as well which means they're gonna have to become public and remove religion from their preschool programs or they're potentially gonna close so of course it's GOING TO BE HIGHLY COMPETITIVE IF YOU HAVE ANOTHER HUGE PRESCHOOL OFFERING IN THE AREA THAT'S TUITION FREE, BECAUSE THAT'S THE CONVENIENCE OF BRINGING THIS IN AS A BOND PROPOSAL. OKAY, LET'S LOOK AT ENROLLMENT TRENDS. Okay so some conflicting material or maybe it's not conflicting maybe it's what they intended they put out they said that the population of Midland is moving into the north so it's moving up into the area north of US-Ten and they said six hundred plus elementary students ARE MOVING TO THAT AREA. AND THEN ON ANOTHER PART OF THE MAILER, THEY SAID, SIX HUNDRED PRE-K TO K-FIVE STUDENTS. SO WHICH STUDENTS ARE THEY COUNTING WHEN THEY SAY THERE'S A GIANT POPULATION UP THERE? We say, what's the actual number? Is it pre-K or K-five? The students we're required to educate are K through twelve. So is it six hundred or is it not six hundred? Or is it more like three hundred? So the committee asked MPS and the response was that there's no difference. we're also told that the enrollment numbers can only count K through twelve for Michigan reporting standards. So there is a difference. But MPS seems to be muddling the numbers and including pre-k and of course that increases the need for these elementary schools. So Again, they're only allowed to report K through twelve, but they are also projecting growth in their thirty eight eighty one form of two point five five over the next five years. Where if you look at their previous enrollment, this starts back at two thousand, it's been dropping, there was a significant drop and now it's a little more leveled off. This is MPS compared to the state enrollment and how the trends have been looking. So MPS has been dropping even more than the state historically and in the recent years. It's just dropping less than it has in the last twenty-five years. In the recent years it's still dropping. So what is the real school enrollment trend? It looks like they may have ignored factors such as downsizing birth rates, the fewest babies born since the nineteen forties, potential homeschool and private school options drawing more students away. So their estimate of two point five five, does it hold weight that it's going to increase in the next five years? myth a little myth or fact they did a projection population study where they where they pulled out this two point five five number from and we questioned some of their the numbers they plugged into the study because they don't quite match what they also reported themselves to the Michigan State reporting website. So Is the trend gonna go up a two point five five or is it more likely to stay flat or go down because it's unlikely with real numbers here that they're gonna get that two point five five. So let's take a look at academic achievement and proficiency now. MPS school board likes to talk about being in the top three percent or three and a half percent of the state. Now that's one number. It's based on one grade level and what it's based on when you look into their presentations is SAT scores. So SAT scores for our eleventh graders taking a test to get into college. So They are, in fact, top three percent of the state, the state of Michigan, which is forty-one out of fifty for education. By the source they gave me, U.S. News and World Report, so they themselves admit they're top of the bottom. And even considering that they're top, all of the trends, which is on this lower graph here, are a little hard to read, have been going down. So State of Michigan has been going down, and so have MPS students. So they're going with the trend. And they seem to be okay with that, but they do bring out in their slides some reading proficiency scores. So the top graph shows third through sixth graders and the blue bars is MPS. So it starts at third grade where they start taking these tests and third graders are over fifty percent last two years ago couldn't couldn't pass this test and couldn't weren't proficient in it they finally jumped just over the fifty percent mark so a little less than half percent or half of the students are still not at reading proficiency but they can cheer about that because they went up a slightly there's also a wide range between the different elementaries in the district with carp with Central Central Park being the lowest at forty four percent so their newest building even though it had does they did move some advanced students in there so there's a little bit offset but this is their their newest brand new modern facility and I'll show you in a minute what it's where it was where it's moved from but it's currently at forty four percent and it's I brought out on the bottom here third through fifth grade so you can see it's they don't jump a ton between third and fifth grade even and there are a couple schools in the state that can do that get much higher scores so it's possible central yeah it was built in twenty seventeen so it's almost brand new I'm gonna show it on the next slide where it went. But yeah, no, they haven't. I'll give it away now. This is a look at the district as a whole for MPS's third graders. And third grade's important grade. That's why we keep pulling it out. But the third grade for MPS and the third grade for the state are both trending down. And MPS is sadly getting narrower. They're getting closer to the state level. So this chart, and I hope it's a little darker this time you can see it, is just looking at Central Park. So Central Park, the most modern of the buildings at MPS that they just built and are proud that's a STEM school as well. is supposed to support educational excellence, as they say. They took students from two buildings in the district that are East Lawn and Carpenter and moved them into Central Park. So this is an average of where all those students were testing before. And then the green is Central Park. There's one number one year where they blipped up real high. But the trend overall of the Central Park students, third graders, hasn't been going up. It has continued to go down. So moving them into this building, has it done anything for them? Their modern furniture, modern classroom settings? wouldn't say so and I'd say these are the students that probably need the most help out of all the students in the district they sit their scores for this elementary of these population of students with these elementaries sit right about the state level because that red line is still the state so could they be doing more for them than just building them a fancy new building yes okay so back looking at this chart the spending is in red going up. Your enrollment, I just went into more detail on, has been trailing off, but basically going down. And test scores are going down. And this is not only third grade here in the green, but that SAT score is in the yellow. So they've all been dropping off despite all that spending. Also a note, there's students in the district that are either economically disadvantaged or have disability support. And it's thirty-six percent economically disadvantaged and sixteen for students with disabilities. And there's additional money that comes in to support those students. But are they, is the district really helping those students to break the generational cycle that some of them are in? It doesn't seem like it. So one more thing they point out on their mailer is academic excellence. So excellence to me isn't defined by what they seem to define it by. Is it really dependent on the learning space or is it their teaching quality that's missing from? maybe it's not the teachers either maybe it's just what they're told they have to do but Central Park again Central Park latest and greatest still been dropping and then so to bring all these new upgrades in and say this facilities improvement is going to help academic excellence I don't see the evidence it's And thank you for that. So we're gonna switch over. We've covered a few of the topics now and then we're going to let Joe take over and handle some of the number side of it and the waste that's going on. Time to talk about the money. They want lots of money. These are the unilluminated facts of what's hiding in their system. For those of you who don't know, I've been around here for thirty-six years. If you're not a numbers person, if you are a numbers person, I'm going to go too fast. You can read the numbers later. If you're not a numbers person, don't worry. All I want you to do is see the trends. How did we get here? Proposition A, nineteen ninety-four, trying to level the amount of funding for students across the entire state. Midland had a big industrial base, so we were able to have a lot more funds. We lost that access. They tried to mitigate it. Didn't work. Then we went to sinking funds. Nineteen ninety-four was the first sinking fund. And then in two thousand and two sinking fund is not a bond. Sinking fund is a pay as you go structure. They collect the taxes and then they spend it. So when Midland Public Schools says we have not had debt in decades, it's true because this isn't debt. You have collected the money first. Big difference. We failed to fund the third sinking fund in twenty thirteen, mostly because of bad behavior in the first two. The first sinking fund, the very first thing they did was put a University of Michigan quality football field into the stadium. It annoyed a lot of people. That was my first letter to the editor, being annoyed with that fiasco. Anyway, Midland shrank, didn't do anything for two years, fell behind. and then had to go big in twenty fifteen hundred twenty five million dollars fifteen dollar bond fifteen year bonds and now we're in twenty twenty five for two hundred eighty five million and it's now twenty five years again proposal a was trying to level the field and couldn't live within our means and everybody in the state was trying to do a work around Most people went to sinking funds and then some moved on to bonds. Many are still doing both sinking funds and bonds simultaneously. Why did all this happen? In the twenty tens we lost population, so the per student income went down. We shut down five elementary schools instead of four and they didn't do, they didn't buy a lot of stuff because they didn't have extra funds in twenty thirteen fourteen. In twenty fifteen we paid to tear down four of the five elementary schools and with every school bond series, there were three series in the twenty fifteen, early, middle, and late, they bought buses. That'll matter in a minute. Now they're gonna go big, two new buildings in the midst of, I would call, economic uncertainty, and they're again gonna buy buses with the four series that are in this one. Quick aside, a bus lasts six years and then they get rid of it, it's basically worn out. We have been financing buses with bonds. So we are essentially financing a short-term object with a long-term debt and wasting all that interest, which goes to nothing for the students. They're doing the same thing with cables, wires, networks, servers, routers, Chromebooks. Chromebooks, they last five years. They throw them away. They're worthless. We're paying for them with fifteen-year money right now to finish the twenty-fifteen bond, and we're going to do it again with twenty-five-year debt in the next bond. You have to go through with this. Ballpark numbers, we're wasting thirty million dollars in interest for things that aren't even there anymore. Quick update as to where we are right now before the election. This is the twenty fifteen bond. We have gotten to the point where we are going to be getting less of a bill for the twenty fifteen bond. You are entitled to this discount. And that's where what's going on right now. This is the official bond. All the language in the official bond. Sorry, ballot. And Nowhere in there does it say we're going to build a school, we're going to build another school, we're going to tear down a school. It's there all generalities and vagueness in here. And they have admitted at meetings that they can change the plan if the situation changes. Key sentence, two hundred eighty five million dollars, general obligation unlimited. That means that they have assigned the debt to the property of the district. You are taking out a second mortgage on your property by voting yes or by it passing, even if you vote no. And now they're going to twenty five years instead of fifteen. The only thing that says in there is three point nine mills. It's not three point two five. It's three point nine because of the discount that you were entitled to. This is how much is being added on what your true baseline is. That's the only interest or millage that they're required to state because everything after that is an assumption. And I'll go through some of the assumptions that they've made as to what it will look like in the future. After we got that document, this, uh, thirty-eight eighty-one document, they then immediately put this up on the website, which is unreadable by design. The blue, the green, puke green color is twenty-fifteen and the rest is your total. If you pull it out, the blue bars in there, that's really the twenty twenty five bond. And let's move it so that we get rid of the noise. Again, it's really three point nine on the first year and it goes up to two point four point nine five in twenty thirty nine. It's not really three point two five until twenty fifty one. it's a giant emotional play to make it seem like it's only this much and it's going to stay at this rate. It's staying at that rate because they're stealing, sorry, they are taking the discount you were entitled to in twenty fifteen. Here's the real costs, et cetera, between the the information they are giving to you and what a real three point nine looks like on the other side. Anyway, we got the three thirty eighty one. It had a lot of other facts in it. They're believing they will get a four point seven five interest rate on all four series over the next nine years. If that is not achieved, the millage rate will go up, you will pay more, period. They're going from fifteen years to twenty-five years. Why is it a benefit? Well, because it looks better. It's like buying a car. What do you want your payment to be? Well, we'll charge you this many years, so your payment is down at that level. That's really what they're doing. By making the switch from fifteen to twenty-five, they're wasting eighty-eight point five million dollars of interest, which does absolutely nothing for the students. It just makes it sound better. Just to be clear, again, from the state documents that MPS created and submitted, total cost for this whole thing, with the assumptions, four hundred eighty-seven hundred twenty-eight thousand And so we're ninety-seven percent of the way to a half a billion dollars so we're just going to call it half a billion dollars. Another assumption, the Midland tax base will increase one point six five percent annually for the next twenty years. If it does not achieve that goal your millage is going to go up. This affects everybody. Rentals, everybody will feel this bond if it does go through. This is taxable value oscillations over the last few years. The red is a five-year running average. You notice it spends a fair amount of time below that orange line which is the one point six five assumption. Matter of fact, we have not achieved one point six five in seven of the last ten years. So they like to talk about the part of the iceberg above the water line. There's a whole lot underneath the water line that they don't talk about, etc. This is the financial state of Midland Public Schools. The green is the income, the red is the expenses. Notice green is bigger than red. And that blue line is their general fund or a reserve. Let's look at that a little bit bigger. The reserve has been growing dramatically. It used to run in seven to fourteen million dollar range. They're now up there at thirty four million. They've got a twenty million dollar increase in that holding that they have not been spending the money on. It's been sitting on the side generating interest we hope. But all the things they talk about being important, security, muddy playgrounds, etc. They haven't been doing it. And there's a pool, you know, buy buses with money that's not costing you lots of money. And so MPS behavior looks like they're deferring and they're trying to push everything they possibly can over to the side, have this big reserve so their credit score looks better, hoping for a better interest rate. But they're not doing the things that they say are important. So, why am I here? What happens if we keep doing this, twenty-five year bonds, every ten years? The MPS Board has already said, we will be back. Maybe it's in seven years, maybe it's in twelve years, maybe it's in ten years, but we are going to still be paying this bond when they come back. And it will be at a higher rate than the twenty fifteen is if we do this in May. So it's stacking things up. They compare themselves to a lot of elite schools and say we have a lower millage than they do. We're on our way to achieving what they pay. So here's the same cartoon I had before expanded up a little bit. The orange is if they put a twenty thirty five bond top of what's left of twenty twenty five we're gonna be at about eight mils if they do it again ten years later putting it on top of the back of a higher baseline again they're gonna be up near ten mils so really we're in perpetual bondage for this system the what they're setting ourselves up for we've done it once we don't need to do it a second time and get them addicted to this behavior Also, again, they shift everything they can to the bonds. They're pushing buses, laptops, infrastructure, roofs. Roofs is maintenance. I mean, that's just what it is. A roof wears out in twenty years. It's in the warranty. They talk about it all the time. It's not like you didn't know it was coming. Again, we'll be back. This is what I call the ghost bus. If a high school senior rides a new bus next year, in twenty twenty six and his father voted yes for this bond. The dad does not know that that bus is going to be taken out of service in twenty thirty two and he will be paying for that bus until twenty fifty. Every bus all these buses become a ghost for nineteen years on the books and we keep paying for it. Wrong way to do this. I have to say this because I'm old. Furniture doesn't fix proficiency. I learned on a desk that had an inkwell hole in it. It's from, it was from the late forties or maybe early fifties. I learned on it on the seventies and my little brother learned on it in the eighties. And we could read. So it's, now we've got Central Park Elementary, latest and greatest, minimal walls, open floor space, noise all over the place, architectural awards. no improve improvement it's one of the worst proficiency schools in the system so we need to learn how to teach hardware and buildings shiny buildings don't fix it uh again we're mortgaging the future a colleague was talking about the bond with my wife and their eleven-year-old son overheard the conversation on the speakerphone And the kid interrupted mom and said, mom, I will be forty-five years old when this is paid off. That's older than the mom was. This is ridiculous. This is generational indebtedness. Now of course we can be at least grateful that the eleven-year-old can add numbers in his head. So he's already ahead of most. Adding insult to injury. The very first series of the bond that passes the school is going to take back at least seventy thousand dollars or seventy one thousand dollars to pay for the election that they're putting imposing upon us obviously assuming it passes and then we're going to pay fifty thousand dollars worth of interest because it's again twenty five year money so it again it makes no sense that they're doing it in this with these methods to do things that are transient Again, it's too big. There's lots of assumptions built into this, which may or may not come true. We will be in the elite class of debt if they go and do this again after this. And they're paying for a lot of consumables. It's like financing your car for thirty-five or forty years. But don't read consumer reports before you buy the car. Oh yes, I can be sarcastic. This is what I consider the bond to really be, is a giant beast with all of these heads and those are all the major issues that are hiding inside this bond. So now to look at how this is going to impact us and why this election is important. Most of our elections that we go to every two years, they're either for a two or four year period, maybe a six or eight. This one's gonna affect this community for the next thirty-three years. So this is why we're making such a big deal about trying to get information out, because we want people to understand the impact that this will have on us. Special elections, as you may know, they count on low voter turnout. That's why it's in May when people aren't paying attention. They're busy, spring's coming, nice days. Last year in May we had a special election. It was a millage renewal. Sixty-four percent of the voters that showed up were sixty-four and older. And they didn't actually show up, we'll see. There are about forty-six thousand registered voters in the Midland Public School District. Ten thousand are permanent absentee. This time we had a bunch of requests so it's probably closer to fourteen thousand this year. And thirty six thousand of those live within the city limits and ten thousand are in the adjacent townships. Previous elections, the twenty thirteen sinking fund that Joe talked about that failed, there were forty thousand six hundred and ninety registered voters. You'll see that twenty three hundred and four of them voted no and two thousand and eighty one voted yes. So that was actually defeated with only ten percent of the registered voters casting a vote. Ninety percent never even let their voice be heard. Twenty fifteen bond proposal, fifteen year bond. It passed, forty-one thousand approximately were registered. Forty-three thousand ninety said yes, twenty-eight hundred, or forty-three hundred ninety said yes, twenty-eight forty-eight said no. About seventeen and a half percent of the voters showed up. A few more than the previous one. Last year, I pulled the information after the election. Again, here we are, sitting right around seventeen and a half percent. Which means, thirty-seven thousand, two hundred and ninety of the voters, again, did not show up. And out of those, seventy-eight percent of them were absentee. So they weren't even actually at the polls. So, this year, and by the way, one hundred and thirty-three thousand that election cost last year, eighty-five thousand of it was just for the fact that it was a special election that could have been free during a regular election cycle. This year, my guess is it's gonna be closer to ninety five thousand because they've got a whole lot more absentee ballots. Maybe they'll come in at ninety. And we also have the fact that we need to encourage other people to vote this time. This half billion dollar debt over the next thirty three years, again, is just too much. It's going to cost this community an amazing amount of money. And as Joe was pointing out, the fact that they made it a twenty-five year bond, that extra eighty-eight million dollars worth of interest that we're paying for those extra ten years, that's all money coming out of the local economy. Because we're the ones that are going to be paying it to our taxes rather than being able to spend it at local businesses for keeping our community going. And what if someone's already voted? Again, there's about fourteen thousand absentee ballots already out, so a number have already been cast. If somebody you're talking to, they said, but I already voted, they actually have until April twenty-fifth at five o'clock. They can go into their local clerk and ask for a new ballot. The clerk will spoil their old ballot and they'll get to recast it. So, if they learn something, encourage them to change their vote. Big takeaway, it's just too much money. We have people on fixed income. We've talked to quite a few seniors that say they just can't afford to keep doing more. The middle and public schools like to say it's just a dollar a day. Well, there's some people that that dollar a day they don't have because they're already trying to figure out what they have to give up to put food on the table. You have renters that don't realize that they need to vote too, because this is gonna affect the rent. The landlords cannot absorb all of this cost in their businesses. So it will get passed on to renters. So it's important that they get informed. Small businesses, their business buildings, they're gonna get taxed. So they're gonna have to pass that on to the consumers locally. And we're coming off four years with a lot of rising inflation. So people are already feeling financially crunched at this point so this is a thirty three year half billion dollar debt and it's only about a ten year fix because as Joe said they've already been telling us in the meetings that they're gonna be back for more this isn't really fixing the issues in the district and the building utilization capacities because we're adding pre-k and ESA we're told well the new elementary we're gonna be freeing up twenty four classrooms but what they don't tell you is all those preschool classrooms and the ESA classrooms, there's three to four classrooms in every elementary that will be used by those. And so we really are giving up almost the same number that we're gaining with the new school. So the option to refurbish Northeast, again, never presented to the public, needs to be revisited, I believe. We'll be paying about sixty eight million dollars of debt long after its useful life of five to ten years in this bond, which is an extra thirty and a half million dollars that could have been covered in a ten year bond instead or out of a sinking fund and not have any interest. We could have absorbed a lot of that. And had this been a fifteen year bond again, eighty eight million dollars in interest this community is going to lose. So our silence is our consent. The silent majority will not make things happen and change this for the better of the future of our children and grandchildren. This election has a much longer impact, as I said. It's gonna be thirty-three years on this community for just this bond. So if you don't vote, you have consented to the will of those that do. So we're encouraging everybody to be an informed voter. We need sixty percent or more to show up. We need to help the community understand the need to get involved in these elections and let their voices be heard. So you can get more information about our group. We also have a website that we keep up to date and keep adding new material out there as we come across it. And neither the students or taxpayers are going to come out ahead. This is a sleight of hand bond, and it's a hard no, at least for me. And thank you for attending. Okay, a thirty-three year bond. number that we're using each series in this bond is for twenty five years this bond is set up to be four series so every time they start a new series starts a new twenty five year window so they're going to be moving from the first bond goes out twenty five years the second bond's another twenty five from that point so you don't actually start that fourth series until about nine years in and so you're adding the twenty-five around the eight to nine year mark. So it'll be thirty-three years from the first series being issued until the last series is paid off. So that's why it shows as a thirty-three year bond.