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BNN 5/5/2026 Lawful Defense ProSe & Robert Cowper USPS Food Drive

Published May 5, 2026, 9:01 a.m.

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good morning and welcome to brandenburg news network i am donna brandenburg and it's the fifth day of may twenty twenty six uh happy cinco de mayo to everyone out there and uh i hope that you have a wonderful day today i'm starting out this morning at nine o'clock with john tater lawful defense then at ten o'clock pro say mike we never know where that's going and then eleven o'clock robert cowper who is a postal worker and they're doing a community food drive. And so I want them to talk about that so that we really get more community focused. I mean, this is where our focus should be. Also, I mean, people focus on national events, but honestly, local events equals national impact. So anyhow, hey, John, how you doing? I am doing just fine. And you are a grumpy veteran. I served, I sacrificed. I'm not a hero. Pull your shirt down. I can't see it. Not a legend. All right, let me see your shirt. My oath of enlistment has no expiration date. I have anger issues, seriously dislike for stupid people. I'm proud to be a veteran. If this offends you, I don't care. I love it. Too fun. Did you ever see the Muppet show with the two old grumpy guys up in the box? Waldorf and I think it's Waldorf and Astoria. They were hilarious. Muppets were not one of my favorites. I have kids, so we were into that when they were little, thought that it was pretty funny. So anyhow, what are we talking about today? Judicial immunity, right? The fall of the Republic will be led by the judiciary. That was said by one of our founding fathers, and I don't remember if it was Jefferson or Hamilton, one of those. Guys said that way back then. They knew that the judiciary was going to lead the fall of the republic. And that's what we have seen over the years, that the judiciary has been tainted, seriously corrupted, paid off, I don't know, whatever you want to call it. And of course the bar came on board and the bar believes that they're immune, that the people that are in the bar are above the law. And so we have to dispel that to the public because the public goes to court, especially if they go pro se and the judges throw a whole lot of court cases at them and the patriots that are out there fighting, don't read the court case and buy into what the judiciary, the black robe bats tell us that court case says. But when you read the court case through, you'll find that it doesn't say exactly what they say it says. And so I've been playing this game since two thousand twelve when the judges when I start suing judges, they all say, oh, we have absolute immunity. They don't. And as many times as I've proved that they don't, they still say they do. So if they are a judicial system where they are supposed to adjudicate the law, they don't even know the law. So how can they be judges with the law? Because they have no idea what they're talking about. Ninety nine point nine percent of the judges are corrupt. one form or another, probably because they've been taught that way in law school, how to be corrupt and they're good at it. And by the time they become a judge, they know how to rip off people because that's what their job is. Their job is to steal from those people that are injured or hurt or or need some sort of legal assistance. And then they steal the money from them. That's the only way they make money. They don't produce anything. And the other side of the coin is they don't really know the law either because I've had more attorneys commit perjury in court, but the judges won't hold them accountable at this time yet. Yeah, but that's coming. What I see with most of it is that people have such a problem with integrity and seeing other people as just part of the game to see how much they can get instead of doing things just because it's the right thing to do. That I don't see a whole lot of justice coming out of anything because it's all about the money. Well, presently I'm suing. I've got a lawsuit. I'm seeing that directed to the bar and the judicial system in general. I'm not saying that to people who fight pro se. Pro se is a tough way to go, though, I'm going to tell you. It's a tough go. You've got to learn. It's just like everything else. It's just like all the other stuff out there. There's a lot more minutiae in the courts now. than anywhere else but medical isn't any better medical they're all corrupt there too they play the game to steal money from you this thing about curing cancer since what was that they had this war on cancer we could go to the moon but we can't cure cancer you know this is this is we people ought to realize that this is a crack also uh they they probably know what i'm sure they know what the cure is and how to prevent cancer, but they're not going to tell anybody because it's a big moneymaker for them. But this is the same thing with the court system. Every time I go into court or every time I appear or write a document, they say, why don't you hire an attorney? Right, every single time because they got to keep the money flowing and also they can control the bar attorneys. That's right. That's right. So with that said, let's go into why they don't have immunity. Because first of all, nobody in this country has immunity against the law. Remember, Hillary Clinton, as much as I hate to say that name, Hillary Clinton says no one is above the law. That includes judges. No one's above the law. At least she's the one that recognized no one's above the law and she's going to go to jail based on the law. So that's a good thing. So she realizes what she's done, and she realizes that she's one that's going to be in jail because of her shenanigans in violating the law in every which way she could possibly do. But she's not the only one. But the judges are the same. It might be a higher punishment than just going to jail. That's what I think all of us who are sick of the parasite class feel. Trees and cones of consequences, you know? Well, I don't know. I kind of think that somebody that has been living the high life and stealing money and really having their jet and this and that end up behind a six-by-six jail for the rest of their life, I think that's pretty good punishment, especially if they don't have any privileges in the court. And the slammer there, they just go there. They just they exist. I think that would be a very good punishment for a lot of them. So hanging. Yeah, we get rid of them. Yeah, that's a good thing. But I think a life without parole, I mean, you're done. You end up behind bars and you live the rest of your life. You die behind bars. That is the best form of punishment for these public functionaries. Not to go to the country clubs, but to go to a, like Jackson, a maximum security prison and leave them there the rest of their life. That would be good. So anyway, I'd like to see what the cost of of keeping them and, you know, is like confined would would be as opposed to the short drop and sudden stop method. You know, well, here again, if you if they've gained their booty by fraud. that can be removed from them so you know hillary who has the clinton foundation all that stuff all that money can be taken from them because that was all fraud so they end up with zero no money nothing the clothes you have on your back that's it and you're behind bars the rest of your life and you can eat what the prisoners eat i think that's a great punishment um because now they have time to think about it and mentally it'll drive them nuts um because of who they were and where they came from and now where they are uh as long as it would give them more time to be saved so that you know before they meet god i mean i suppose that's the upside of incarcerating them rather than just handling the problem making the appointment with god you know Well, as long as they're removed from the system, from this face of the earth, from their politics, from their all this other stuff that, you know, I always thought that having Hillary Clinton work in a soup kitchen as one of those servers would be a great punishment for the rest of her life. every day she has to get up at a certain time go and in in front of the the indigent people and serve them i think that would be great but that's my thought anyway so we'll we'll go on beyond that This all goes back to Norton versus Shelby County. And I say it again and again and again, but it all goes back to Norton because Norton basically supports the Constitution and basically supports and explains what our republic is supposed to look like, how it's supposed to operate. If you are a judge and you think that you have immunity, then the question is, is it an unconstitutional act that you can lie on the bench, commit perjury in the court of law, make up stories, create a scenario to incarcerate people based on your own personal vendettas on that person or based on your own bias. If you are a bias type judge and you don't follow the rule of law, then it's an unconstitutional act and it is not a law. So if we read that one paragraph in Norton or that one sentence, an unconstitutional act is not a law. It confers no rights. It imposes no duties. It affords no protection. It creates no office. It is in legal contemplation as inoperative as though it never had been passed. That is Norton right there in a nutshell. You read deeper into Norton. You understand the terminology. You never talk about a judge. overstepping his authority. You talk about a usurping judge, a judge that usurped authority. That's the criminal end of it. That is the legal terminology, de facto, de jure. So many times I will go in the corner when I file a document, that's the first things that come out of the document. Are you a de jure officer occupying a de jure office? And if he's not, if he can't answer that question, and even if he says yes, now I got to ask him, what does that mean to you, Your Honor? What does de jure mean? And see if he knows what that means. What's the answer that always hits all the buttons with you? From the judge? Yeah, if they answer what a de jure office is. I mean, it's a constitutional office. I understand that. Well, I had a friend of mine. I have a friend of mine named Rob, and he went to one of the judges on the circuit court, and he asked that judge, are you a de jure officer occupying a de jure office? And she says, I don't know. But he said I wasn't prepped well enough to do a comeback to that, so it kind of died there. But when you ask an officer, a jury officer occupying a de jure, and he doesn't know what the word de jure means, then he shouldn't be in office, any office, not only judicial office, but legislative or executive, shouldn't be there. because they do not understand what it means to be a constitutional officer of that court, of that particular department. So we get back to Norton versus Shelby County, and that's a great start when you're going up against a public functionary to ask them that question. Are you a de jure officer occupying a de jure office? And if he says anything other than if he says yes, I'd ask him, what does that mean to you? And then let him explain that and see if they can do that. A lot of them can't. A lot of them don't know. So getting back to the judges that think they have immunity and I get it thrown at me all the time. And in fact, this last judge bird says judges have absolute immunity. I spent about four pages or five pages explaining why they do not have any immunity, not only judicial immunity or not only absolute immunity. They have no transitional, no conditional, unless they stay within the lanes of their job description. now you ask yourself and they call it jurisdiction you ask yourself what does that mean does that mean that a judge can stand stay on the bench and lie on the bench and make a few statements on the bench how about attorneys can they come up with a court case and just say, because of this court case, I'm going to say this. They never read the court case. They don't know what it says. They're just using that to kind of say to the pro se litigants, you don't know what you're talking about. I have a court case that proves otherwise. Well, I happen to read those court cases. And those court cases don't say anything like the judges believe they say or the attorneys believe they say. So when you get into court as a pro se litigant, you need to read the cases that they present to you to prove their point, their authority, because most of the time their authority is tainted, twisted, or lied about. One of the glaring lies that I had thrown at me was done by Judge Batani, who is no longer with us. She's deceased, but her legend lives on as far as I'm concerned. And she said that the Bruce Schaber case, Bruce Schaber versus Union Pacific Railroad, gave Congress new taxing powers. And therefore, she didn't have to pay any attention to my complaint as to what I was suing about. And so she dismissed my case based on pretty much not only, but pretty much that one court case, the Bruce Shaver, but she misread the case. She didn't misread it. She lied about it. And so that in itself should have caught the next judge, which was Linda Parker. And she should have been paying attention, but of course she was protecting the system. And it went on and on and on to these other judges. So if you look at, in fact, I have my title on my one part of my lawsuit says absolute immunity deception. None. No one is above the law. That's my title of this case of this of this. a particular paragraph, and I go through it and I explain what it means to have immunity, qualified or otherwise. If we, the citizens of this country, have sovereignty, are the sovereign, and we are the ones that control government, then if the judges think that they have sovereign immunity then you and i could say hey we're immune we're immune to all the laws because we're the ones that created the laws so we are the ones that are totally immune but we can't even give that immunity to another public function or it can't be done what the law does say about judges and executive branch and legislative branch is that they have immunity when they are within their duties, within their job description. They step outside that, they step outside their jurisdiction, they no longer have immunity. In fact, if you look at Ex parte Young, which is a court case, which was in nineteen oh eight, it said an unconstitutional statute is is a proceeding without authority. and does not affect the state in its sovereignty or governmental capacity and is an illegal act, the officer is stripped of his official character and subject to his person to the consequences of his individual conduct. And that's a very powerful court case that people need to really understand and need to have. Now we go on to Pearson versus Ray, which these judges and attorneys, defending attorneys and people of the DOJ and so on and so forth, have used by saying, yeah, Pearson says judges have absolute immunity. Well, the first two or three pages kind of talks about immunity what is immunity and how immunity and who can get immunity and so on and so forth but at the end of the paragraph at the end of the at the end of the uh uh court decision it says a judge is liable for injuries caused by the ministerial act to have immunity the judge must perform a judicial function the presence of malice or the intention to deprive a person of his constitutional rights. He exercises no discretion or individual judgment. He acts no longer as a judge, but as a minister of his own prejudice. That's the case that these judges and or attorneys have used in the courts when I'm in battle with them. Now, the problem with the court system that I see is they never let me go into court and argue orally. They only do it based on paper. So I submit my documents, they submit their documents, I submit my documents, but there's no actual... Face to face arguing against the judge or against a attorney. I wonder why. Well, and it's like it's like what you see, what I saw there, too, is that when they get into court, the judges will they I kept getting interrupted. And unfortunately, the attorney that was going to represent me in court was found dead, which didn't help anything. You know, so I show up there to do that. And the judge kept interrupting every time I said something. and made the questions definitely harder and more pointed to me. The other attorney was misrepresenting the law, according to an attorney that was sitting in the courtroom that gave me feedback later. And it was kind of one of those very brutal situations because they know how to shut you up. So when you go in there, you've got to do enough studying to be able to represent yourself. Right. You know, and practice and know you're going to make some mistakes. You're going to make mistakes if you get into this arena. That's not a reason to stop. That's part of the learning process. Well, it is the process that we as individuals, prosays, need to do. We were taught when I was a kid, you always hire a professional. Well, those professionals are professional con people. They sure are. Robert Underwood Jr. : Going from the accountant, the Attorney and the medical profession they're they're cons they're conning us and because we don't know the law, we expect them to do. Robert Underwood Jr. : You know it's like giving a piggy bank to somebody and saying you know this couple hundred thousand dollars in this piggy bank but don't touch it you're just going to protect it for me. are you crazy i think there are some good attorneys out there i really do that are working within a very bad system but they because they uh are protecting their schooling their investment in their career and such they're probably not going to step over that law that that uh next step to to hold the judges accountable because you know they're They play within they play within the system. And I think their their intentions are good. But however, I'm not agreeing. I'm not agreeing with the fact that they're still let's go back to the dog crap analysis. If you make brownies with dog crap, you're still eating dog crap, right? If you're within the court system and you're an attorney and you're trying to do the right thing, you're still playing in an unconstitutional arena. and not holding those people, especially their bosses, who are the judges or administrative individuals, I don't even believe they're judges in the state anymore, that they need to be held accountable. You can't just say, well, we're going to uphold their untouchable status and have it be okay. It's not. Well, it is fear. It is fear by the attorneys that have spent three years four years in law school getting their so-called bar license then they find that they're totally controlled by the system because the judges control the attorneys they can't step out of line or they are going to be held in contempt of court by the judges and therefore uh Do they want to give up their four-year degree that they learned and they trained and now they can't practice because the judges have under control? Or do they fall in line and do what the judges ask them to do? And they get a good chunk of money for doing basically nothing. Because a lot of attorneys, when you hire one, they don't write the briefs. They have their secretaries or their parapros write the briefs. They look at them or they nowadays have AI write them. I don't even know if they're looking at them, quite honestly, when I see things come back. It's like, you just gave me evidence for my case. That's right, but the problem is that because they are attorneys and they are called esquires and they're a level above everybody else so they think, and that we are just the low-level people that really don't know the law, they can pull wool over our eyes, and they do. If they can get away with it, they will. So if you go into a situation where, first of all, if you're not studying and practicing in your own right the law and understanding what the law is, then you don't have that right. That's not your right. You're giving it to an attorney to do your bidding for you. And win, draw or lose, you're going to put your fate in that particular attorney. So that's the problem that I have with the legal system. It has been totally corrupted from the eighteen hundreds because of the bar system and because of the practice of law and so on and so forth. That whole thing, those guys don't practice law. They they they look at the law, they look at they look at what they argue and they figure out a way to get out of it. That's what it's all about. And so if you're a criminal or a good person that's being abused, excuse me, abused by the system, and you put your fate in the attorney, then you have whatever outcome comes out, and that's just the way it is. So back to immunity. judicial system or the judges do not have immunity when they are outside their duties there's another case that was used by the uh department of justice against me when i was suing um the um new nugent judge nugent or defendant nugent and defendant yonker and defendant cole three judges on the bench I filed a lawsuit and this attorney from the DOJ, Attorney General, Assistant Attorney General, whatever you want to call her, used this particular case. It's called the Waco case. And it talks about immunity, judicial immunity attaches only to the actions undertaken in a judicial... Now, what does that mean, judicial capacity? See, they don't explain these things, and they say, well, if he's sitting on the bench and he's got a black robe on, it's a judicial capacity. No, it's what the judge does in that courtroom. If that judge lies on the bench, if that judge commits perjury on the bench, he is outside his judicial capacity because the judicial system didn't set up a system that says the attorneys and the judges have a right to lie. So I'm suing the DOJ to those individual attorneys that bring these lawsuits, that bring these arguments out and misread court cases because they're supposed to know the law, not me. They're supposed to know they're the professionals, and therefore I'm going after them for violating my constitution and violating Their oath of office, which is to protect the public against, you know, protect the public's life, liberty and property against all enemies, foreign and domestic. And they're not doing that. They're getting in there and they're massaging the law and massaging the court cases. And of course, this DOJ attorney decides that she's going to bring out this case Waco and say that they have immunity. They don't have immunity because they violated the law. But they didn't get into the violating of the law part. They didn't get into the fact that he lied on the bench. They didn't get into the fact that he didn't answer my complaint and say, yeah, I lied on the bench, and this is in my judicial capacity to do that. They didn't bring that part out. They only said they had immunity, and therefore they were going to dismiss the case. So this is the con that we go through, but you got to know that. You got to know what's being done to you. So I tend to read the cases. And when I do read the cases, I find that what they're quoting is totally outside what the law really is. And as we say, Hillary said it more than once publicly, no one is above the law, not even judges. So Another case that they brought out was Barnes versus Winchell. And in that case, it says, the applicable immunity issue is a purely legal one, whether the facts alleged support the claim of violations of clear established law. So it violates clear established law, then it bears the burden of the individual who is being sued. In fact, this case, it was Judge Winchell, but I put in, in my own stead, Judge Nugent or defendant Nugent, Cole, and Yonker. And Berg and says, bears the burden to show that such immunity is warranted. It's not up to the judicial system to say we have immunity. It's up to the judges to prove that they have immunity, that immunity is warranted in that particular case. So. I'm using the same cases because they're the ones that point these cases out. I don't know where these cases exist. So they bring these cases out. I read them and I say, oh, it's not what they say it says. It's something else. And so I use it in the court as I'm writing these documents against them. I think the whole non- or unconstitutional argument justice system right now needs to be, have a reset, a serious reset because none of it, it's all based on, on statutes and that sort of thing. It's not even in, in each case has got its own, you know, or case law. It's got its own idiosyncrasies. And so they apply the case law to new cases coming in, but it may not be the same, but they're using the argument there and misapplying it. And that's the problem. If they were to go back to say like the maxims of law or grand juries and such, I think that we would have a better outcome of actual justice. But right now, we're playing in an unconstitutional court system, which is nothing more than administrative courts. And so it doesn't exist for justice. It exists for revenue generation. Well, yeah, to a degree, you're correct that it's revenue generating system. As a fact, I was sitting in a courtroom in Plymouth with Judge Placus, and Judge Placus made a comment to the court recorder, I think it was, that was sitting next to him. He says, man, we've had a good day today. So far, it's not even noon and we've made over nine hundred dollars. And he said it loud enough for me to hear it. What a criminal. And so that was what this was all about. This should be sobering to everyone that they would say something like that. They admitted to it. It's revenue generation. Nothing to do with justice. But the problem that we still have is that the court system is set up in such a way that the bar protects the courts. And as Mike has said many times in the past that we got to get rid of the bar and he's absolutely correct. The bar is the biggest problem we have. If they have no membership to a bar that entitles them to be liars or thieves, then then that will go away because then they're all under the same mental philosophy that they can be held liable for an illegal acts such as using a court case that has nothing to do with what they're saying, that's fraud. Well, the bar is a cartel and it exists to protect the members not to achieve the goal of justice. So when you look at that, you might as well call it a legal mafia that exists to protect itself and self-enrich off of the unfortunate circumstances of human beings. And honestly, they have hurt so many people unjustly and they use people as pawns to affect the goals. I mean, that's the overriding situation that's going on right now. Now, do I believe that all of them are completely and utterly bankrupt and corrupt? bottoms sucking, bottoms feeding, you know, uh, urchins. I don't think all of them are. I think some of them are trying just like there's people in the Republican party, even though the Republican party is nothing. And the Democrat party, the party system is a system of basically the, the uniparty system is it's, it exists to self enrich. It's an industry, it's a cartel and what they prey upon, what they they're there to control the population. and get them to go marching with their orders, but they don't affect the change. They have no interest in determining a new power structure or restoring the rights of the people. It goes back to, if you don't know, and I've been saying this all my life, if you don't know your rights, you don't have any. So you have to know what your rights are, not just the first ten amendments of the Constitution. That's a good start. But that's just the start. That's commencement, so to speak. That's your college diploma to commence learning from this point on and to become more intelligent about who and what you are and your rights are. But if you don't know your rights... Let's put it in worse terms. It's like the Kentucky Derby. It's like you're in the gate. When you know that much. But the race hasn't even started. It's like getting out of college. You are now queued up in the gate. Now let's see how fast you can actually run and if you can perform. Because it's on you whether you succeed or fail once that gate's open. That's right. And too many people, especially attorneys and mostly judges, take the short way out. The easy way. They don't read the case. They don't understand what the case is about. And they try to twist and turn and just to get a dismissal or just to get their own uh direction of their own narrative past that's what they do they don't really understand the law because they've not really studied the law so this idea of practicing law they don't practice law they just kind of make up the law as they go along they lie about the court cases because they don't read the court case they don't really know what is in the meat of the court case And this is not only judges and attorneys, this is patriots in general that go on the internet, find a small slogan of what this case represents, and then try to use that. But the meat of the argument, the meat of what's that whole paragraph about, it's taking it out of context. I knew all about taking things out of context when I went to high school. that you don't take things out of context. You got to know what the context of that particular issue is before you can use that issue in your debate or in your argument. But the attorneys don't do that. And the judges, of course, all these judges that I've been in front of, they don't read the case. They don't know what the case is all about. They're coming up with stuff to dismiss the case without understanding why I'm in there in the first place. They don't have the capacity to understand how the individual issues, what the core issues are. They have no idea. I could see that when we were in the courtroom, too. They have no idea how the world actually works. It's just, well, let's go read what it says here. And those are based on unconstitutional issues. um laws and statutes and cases a lot of them so they they don't understand the core of what they're even adjudicating that's right and that that's a big problem that's why i think the grand juries and getting this back closer to the people well there's a there's a solid argument for going to grand juries and having people that are there that were actually witnessing what went on so that it's not just up to all of opinions I coined a term recently, opinion lemmings, and that's what we have. I mean, we have opinion lemmings in every sector, and people just go, oh, yeah, yeah, they must know. They're in the know. They got some special knowledge. So we're all going to jump off the cliff after them. Yeah, exactly. The problem, again, is that the individual who is in the court system, who is a defendant or a plaintiff, really needs to know the law. And if you know the law and if you know what the law is, then you can't get the wool pulled over your eyes. And again, if you don't know the law, if you don't know your rights, you don't have any. So it's time that people get off their can or get off the couch and start studying these areas. We have a class every Wednesday where we're covering, actually we're reading Norton over again from the beginning, page by page. and and really getting into the nitty-gritty of it so people really can understand it and use it uh when they are in the court because to read something and not get the understanding of what the whole item is what the whole document says you're missing the point you're you're missing the whole argument of what the what the Supreme Court has talked about or what the laws of our country are all about. Again, we go back to the Declaration of Independence. What was the purpose of government? The whole the total purpose of government, the only purpose of government was to protect our life, liberty and property against enemies, foreign and domestic. Well, if we if that's in fact the case, And you have a rogue agency such as the Internal Revenue who has done incredible illegal acts, including levying the public because the public doesn't really, the general citizen is not required and the IRS has no authority to levy you. And that's Title XXVI. That's the law, Title XXVI. usc six three three one a six three three one a lists the categories of people that can be levied against but when they when the irs sends out a levy form to a third party like a employer they eliminate part a they start with part b because they don't want the employer to read Part A because then the employer would say, wait a minute, this person is not a public functionary, does not work for the government. This job is not a governmental job. This guy is not hired by the government and therefore cannot be levied against. And therefore I, as the third party debt collector, I'm not going to collect on this person. but because they eliminate part a of the you know not telling somebody something not telling the whole truth not telling the law uh and the law doesn't one law doesn't exist in a vacuum all laws work together at the same time in the same place so here we have a the IRS playing a game on the public and the third-party debt collectors which is the uh people that pay your salary if you're in a in a in a company these people don't know what the law is they're not going to go to the title and that thick book of you know what three thousand pages and look it up and try to figure it out they're going to follow what the irs says Did you know that the commissioner of the IRS, excuse me, has been gone? It's been vacant since August of last year. And Scott Besant was put in there temporarily. And now it's been completely vacant since March, since March six of this year, which tells me a lot of stuff is happening. Oh, yeah. The government trying to trick people into doing their dirty work and enforcing their unconstitutional laws, that was rampant during COVID. When they told employers what they had to do and mask up and such, they were making employers be their enforcement arm and everybody needs to tell them to shove it if they ever do that again. Never, never comply with that. Let them come after you because they're wrong. They wouldn't arrest me. I tried to get arrested. I figured we'd go rumble right now. But if you stand against them, there's always a loophole. It's just like if they create, with all the created viruses and whatever else they're doing out there, they always have an antidote to it in case it gets out of control so they can cure themselves. The same thing happens with the law. There's always a way around it if you look. Private membership associations. You look at the foundations and such. If we went after the foundations, we'd bring down most of these politicians and the elites. And they won't go after us for the private membership because they take themselves down. Well, the problem goes back to is that office of the bar created the jury office? And of course it's not, and therefore it doesn't exist. And that argument hasn't been brought out in the court yet because the public has not figured it out. Wouldn't that be a fun one to fight? Because you'd go after all the judges and all the attorneys all at one time and say they need to be stripped of their favor. Yeah. Bar is an illegal organization that does not exist according to Norton versus Shelby County. And that's why the judges don't want to talk about Norton. The attorneys don't want to talk about Norton because it is the, as my friend Ron says, the third rail that they're going to get electrocuted on. This is the fact that they have no authority in the court system and anywhere, and that they have no protection by the so-called bar. That is something that fiction that was made up years ago that we all, the public, bought into. And since the public is now buying into what Trump is doing, a lot of these organizations, the IRS, the bar and so on and so forth are going to go away. They're going to lay waste. It'll take time because we haven't gotten the general public up to speed yet. There's still, I don't know what they're doing. You can see where the public is really still in the brainwashing stage. It's when they talk to other people who have different opinions than theirs and they go absolutely berserk. They're defending the hill to die on, which exists in their head. And most of it, it's false. If you throw something out there still that's conspiracy or something that they disagree with, watch their irrational reactions instead of going, well, well, well, let's just consider that a minute. I'm going to take a couple walks around the building here and see if there's any merit to it. People don't want to listen because they just want to confirm what they think. They know or to be right. I think it's almost an act of heroism anymore to be able to stand up to or stand up, not stand against, but be able to stand when you hear opposing opinions and not go absolutely berserk. You know, just just settle. Don't react. Don't react. Respond. And that that sometimes takes a little time. I got to tell you, since we're running out of time, I'm going to leave this with a really, really super great note. Mike's not here yet, so if you can stay on for a few more minutes, it would help me not having to talk to him. What's that? I'll give him a poke here and tell him to get on. But I want to tell you something that happened. My wife and I went out to Zerbo for dinner Sunday, I think it was. And we were sitting having a pretty nice dinner. It was very, very... Zerbo's restaurant in Commerce serves a fabulous bourbon crusted salmon. I love it. So that's what I go there and have. So anyway, we were sitting there minding our own business. Of course, I always wear my Trump hat. So I had my Trump hat on the chair. And I'm sitting there and we're having dinner. It just went away. Are you there? Oh, it just went, just, um, we were having dinner and the, there was a set, there was a husband and wife, I believe next to us at another table. And he gets up and he says, are you a veteran? And I says, yes. And he says, well, we just paid for your meal. That was so super. That is really nice. That's those individual acts. Instead of waiting for the government to do something, just do it yourself, and you'll probably be able to do a better job. Pick something and just do it, right? I was so flabbergasted I didn't know what to do. I shook his hand. I should have offered them to come sit with us for a little bit, but I mean, it just floored me, just flipped me out. You know, you know what? I don't I don't think that people who are OK, I'm just going to make a statement here. And it's not a statement on age or anything, though you are older than me, but not by a tremendous amount. You know, you are some. But when it comes to what's that? You'll catch up eventually. Yeah, seriously. But I had a wonderful experience this week. I was walking into the grocery store and this older gentleman and lady walked up to me and he was just real friendly and started talking. So, you know me, I can talk to anybody. So I said I started talking to them and they were just the sweetest people. And he's like, I'm ninety nine and three fourths. I'm like, you're kidding me. I wouldn't have guessed that you were seventy. And I really wouldn't. And his wife and he said, my wife is ninety four. And and I said, what's the secret to a long life? He goes, she takes good care of me. She makes sure that, you know, I have all the good food. She was a nurse. And he starts they start talking. And he was he was a veteran. And it was a wonderful time. So I probably sat there and just kind of listened to their stories and talked to them for about forty five minutes in the grocery store. I want to have them on because they were absolutely wonderful. And if you've got stories to tell, and this is to everyone, just real life stories, talk and tell people your stories. If you're a veteran, people want to hear what you have to say. And it restores faith. Good stories restore people's faith in what America and what humanity stands for. You have to tell those stories and just do good acts. Take time to talk to people. It's amazing how wonderful and engaging people are. People that are still standing in this fight, like yourself, and I'm going to bring Mike on in a minute. Mike and everyone, you know, we're talking American heroes who do the do just do wonderful things. Getting up and going to work every day has become an act of hero heroism. It always has been. But now you can clearly see it. And, you know, just do what you need to do every day, unwavering, live a good life, be honest, have integrity, and you'll shine just as bright as a star. That's where the real heroes of America are. You know, those guys that serve the country and the military, our workforce, moms, you know, you name it. The ones that just don't give up and provide for others, that live to take care of others around them, you're heroes. And it's time for that revolution to begin and honestly speak up and talk more. You know, tell what your opinions are. And everybody got to be willing to listen, even if they disagree. If you disagree with people, be willing to listen. So how are you doing, Mike? Good. How are you guys doing? I see you guys are talking about one of my favorite things, the bar. Yeah, the sucky judges and the sucky bar association, the unconstitutional ones. So, John, once you finish this out, I'm going to go to a fifty seven second break here so I can move around a little bit. It's hard to sit in the in the chair here for several hours. Larry Silverstein, We are going to be talking about Norton versus Shelby county again we're reading page by page and covering it very, very carefully and thoroughly to try to get everybody involved to understand what the whole crux of that decision was and people that have never. been involved or that do not understand or have a hard time reading the court cases, this is a grand opportunity for you to get involved and learn one of the most important cases that is out there today. we'll cover other cases but this one in particular case has the power to change the vocabulary of our country back to the way it's supposed to be for the republics and that's what we want to do get everybody on board with it and we want to get everybody that's in this in the fight to understand what it is and flip this narrative from the democracy to the republic There you go. Well, there's the there's the information to get a hold of John. And we're going to go to a quick break and I'll be right back with Perose Mike. Thank you. Have a great day. and welcome to the second hour of Brandenburg News Network. I am Donna Brandenburg and it's the fifth day of May twenty twenty-six. Happy Cinco de Mayo. Good morning. Good morning. How you doing? Uh doing great. So, what's happening in in the world of Mike, a man, a national, and a legend. Well, we I I I My old circles, we used to have a saying, never a dull moment. And as per usual, there's never a dull moment. Usually you're doing something that's worthwhile. It goes that way, doesn't it? Well, we don't, you know, everybody says, how do you get into all these things? I said, I don't look for it. It just happens. You know, Friday, this past Friday, several of us have federal lawsuits going on. And so we received a letter from the federal court in Detroit wanting to know if we wanted to come down to the federal courthouse and discuss our cases with an attorney that they were going to provide for us to discuss with. Oh, isn't that interesting? Yes. Yes. How insulting of them. Well, I look at these things not as an insult. I don't look at these things as anything but what it is. And I see opportunities in these things. Okay. Now, like I said, there's four of us. One of the members couldn't make it because he got called out of town for business. But the other three of us went down there. Now, two of the cases involve allegations of sovereign citizen demonization by way of terrorism and extremism. Which they alleged against you. Yeah. Well, yeah. In those cases, one of those cases alleged against me. The case that I was there for was regarding a discharge of a credit card. And so We get down there, there's a whole bunch of people down there. And so you sign up and you wait your turn and get assigned an attorney. So we each had a different attorney. I had prepared a set of questions that we would all ask our attorneys to see what kind of responses we got. Seeing how we had three different attorneys, where are we going to get the same responses? And so I get my attorney that they assigned to me. and a very elderly lady. And I believe she clerks down there at the federal courts. So she starts taking a look at the case. She goes, well, this is regarding credit card debt. I said, yeah. And she goes, well, what's the issue? And I said, well, the issue is that they filed suit and the amount that they're claiming was that obligation was tendered in full. That's all I had said so far was the obligation was tendered in full. She immediately snaps back at me. Oh, that's that sovereign citizen stuff. Really? So I went, give her a confused look. And I said, what do you mean? What's a sovereign citizen? She would not answer me. The trap was set. So I'm thinking, okay, this is the mindset. So we're going to have some fun. Now, the case is stalled right now because the judge doesn't want to move. We have three motions in place right now on this case. We've been waiting several months for a ruling on these motions. The other side, the plaintiff, is trying to remand the case back to state court. And we filed an objection to that. They, after filing and they initiated the suit, they continued issuing demand letters for payment. That's contempt of court. Once the case is filed, they can't continue harassing you for payment until there's a ruling on the case. So we filed a motion for contempt. The third motion that we filed was for a dismissal. So she's looking at it. She goes, well, what's the grounds for the dismissal? I said, well, there's several elements here. I said, first off, they filed a suit against my grandfather instead of my father. They have very similar names, but they're not exactly the same. And so she's like, well, that doesn't mean anything. That's just a misnomer. The judges are not going to pay attention to that. I said, really? I said, well, my grandfather's deceased. So how are they suing a dead guy? And they also had my mother on there. Well, we have dead voters voting. So I mean, you know, who knows? We got ghosts everywhere. So I said, so they have the wrong part of parties listed on the thing. And I said, I even asked them to file an amended complaint. They refused. So they're pursuing two dead people. Second, I said, they have the wrong account numbers on their claim. She goes, that doesn't mean anything either. wow, wrong names, wrong account number. And so then I said, well, by an affidavit that they filed, they filed an affidavit. In the affidavit, it states that they do not have a copy of the original contract or even a copy of the original contract. So without that, there's no obligation. They can't prove an obligation. She goes, the federal courts don't look at it that way anymore, so long as someone had filled out the paperwork and applied for the credit card, and you got a statement, that's all they need to see. Really? That is a crazy statement to say the court doesn't look at it that way anymore. What? They had a coffee in the morning and said, yeah, we're just not going to do this. I'm going to circle back on this in a moment. That's crazy. So I'm like, wow, this is really going kind of weird. And so she goes, well, how did you do this? I said, well, we did a process that we have to discharge the obligation. She goes, can I see the paperwork? I said, sure. So I hand her all the forms that we did with the IRS. This was all submitted through the IRS. She starts flipping through it. And, oh, yeah, I've seen this before. I've seen this before. And this stuff doesn't work. The courts don't recognize this. And this is all nonsense. No one has ever been successful doing this. And she went into this rant how it's all this Internet stuff and no one's ever successful. And it's all garbage. It's all nonsense. And she went on a big tirade about this. And I just sat there and waited. And when she finally got done, I said, well, that's really interesting. I said, however, I've done this process to discharge a truck payment. I've done this process. We've done this process to discharge medical bills. We've done this process to discharge property taxes. We've done this process to discharge income taxes. And I said, the IRS says we're doing it correctly. She gets a scowl on her face. This is her response. You just got lucky. Oh! Wow! I just got lucky, huh? Well, I must have a lot of luck. And she's like, I've never heard of anybody being successful doing this. Well... Hi, let me introduce myself, because I've been successful numerous times. So how can it be just luck? She goes, well, the courts don't acknowledge this. I said, how can you sit there and say that? The IRS says I'm doing it correctly. She had no recourse on that. Now, let me expound on why this matters. What she's saying is that the courts have decided upon themselves, their own self-proclaimed delegation, that if what they say is true, if this is the mindset of the federal courts, that we're going to ignore the federal laws, we're going to ignore all this stuff, what they're actually saying is that, well, that IRS code and their procedures on doing this, which we followed, She's saying that it's all garbage. That's nonsense. That doesn't mean anything, that it has no authority. And she asked me, did the IRS ever contact you? I said, yes, actually the IRS did contact us on the one time regarding the income taxes. I said, we had done the calculations incorrectly. So they gave us the new calculations. We redid all the forms and we resubmitted everything and it was discharged and everything was fine. Well, you just got lucky. So, If what she says is true, if the federal courts are not following this, then what are they saying? They're saying that the IRS code has no authority and we can all stop paying taxes. Here's the other element. If what she says is true, and I raised this also, I said this whole thing is based upon the Bankruptcy Act of nineteen thirty three. She quickly snaps back at me. That never happened. The Bankercy Act of thirty three, the banking holiday of nineteen thirty three and Proclamation twenty thirty nine twenty four never happened. Really? Then I have a hundred dollar bill in my pocket. Please exchange this for gold right now. They can't. There's the dying on you right now in this conversation. You know, she's a cigarette smoker. She's like. trying to get away from this smackdown. This is hilarious. So she has no recourse. There is no recourse. The federal courts can't sit there and say, well, it never happened. We know it did happen. And if it didn't happen, then here's a hundred dollar bill. I want a hundred dollars in gold right now. Give me the exchange. They can't do it. So their whole argument falls by the wayside. So know it was amazing how she kept saying you don't understand the law and this is not what we what and how the federal courts look at things now and i went wow this is really really interesting So I thought, you know, I'm not going to let this die on the vine too quickly. And she wanted me out of that seat so damn bad. She wanted me gone. Nope, nope, nope. I'm going to milk this. So I said, well, I got another question for you. I said, we've got judges that prove state and claim on and for the record that the Constitution does not exist in the courtroom. And that if you keep raising the issue of the Constitution in the courtroom, you're going to be held in contempt. How is that not a violation of their oath of office? Are you ready for the response? It depends on the circumstance. Just kind of making it up on the fly like Jonathan Brader. Yeah, really. So it depends on the circumstance whether or not the Constitution is going to apply in the courtroom. Really? Tell me you hate this conversation. She's looking through the paperwork, and all of a sudden she sees, well, what's this bit about Judge Bain being disqualified? I said, yeah, he's disqualified by law. She goes, well, explain that to me. I said, real simple. I said, first off, I said, we've done the research, and nowhere anywhere can we find anybody wearing a satanic black robe that has a valid oath of office pursuant to Article XI, Section I of the Michigan Constitution, nor are they in compliance with V U.S.C. In addition, they don't have an anti-bribery statement on file. They don't have a foreign agent registration statement on file. And pursuant to Article VI, Section XIX of the Michigan Constitution, they don't have a license to practice law. The scowl on her face when I said that part was priceless. I wish I had, I could have had a, took a picture of it. And she didn't know what to say. She didn't say nothing. Didn't argue it at all, which I found interesting at first. So we're going through some more of this stuff. I'm asking her other questions. I had her there for probably a good half hour, forty five minutes. I would not leave. And she was just like, well, I guess we just agree not to disagree. And she just wanted me gone. Right. So towards the end of the conversation, her little light bulb started to flicker. And all of a sudden she's like, wait a minute. Who are you? I said, what do you mean? She goes, well, you're not you're not the defendant here, are you? I said, no, I'm not. The defendant couldn't be here today. He's got some some medical issues and couldn't come here today. I'm his son. And so I'm here in his stead to to. Oh, no, no, no. You can't do that. You can't do that. I said, can't do what? She goes, the federal courts are not going to allow you to act or speak on his behalf. I said, why not? I said, I'm his interpreter. I'm his counsel. She goes, no, no, no, no. You have to be a licensed attorney. I said, really? I said, you're not licensed. And she just got all big-eyed. I said, you know it. I know it. Everybody knows it. The U.S. Supreme Court has ruled on it. There's no such thing as a license to practice law. She just wanted, at that point it was like, okay, we're done here. So I leave her table and one of our other colleagues was down. She had two attorneys helping her with her case. So I moseyed on down to her table and I sat down and these attorneys are going over to her case. And this is, her name's Treasure and she has a case that started in Genoa Township. And that case is still going on in Genoa Township. She filed a federal case against them for what they were doing in that case. So anyway, during the course of the conversation, the one attorney asked her, have you ever considered getting an attorney to represent you? Before she could answer, I blurted out, why would she do that? Under Corpus Juris Accountum, Volume Seven, Section Four, first obligation of all bar attorneys to the court, not the client. He's looking at me like, who in the hell are you? So we got into Norton and a few other things. And the one guy started talking about Norton. I'm like, wow, this guy must have read it. Now, the one guy is just out of law school. So he's, I don't know what his pedigree is there. But the other guy seemed to have a little more on the ball, a younger guy. And he starts talking about Norton. I'm like, wow, this guy's pretty young, pretty in, you know, he knows about Norton. So I said, Hey, I'd like to, you know, thank you. I said, you've taken the time to read Norton. He goes, well, actually, no, she talked about it and I just looked it up and was reading the cliff notes on it. Okay. So wonderful. Yeah. So anyway, so we get all done. And so the take from that is that the federal courts are, again, not much better than the state courts at the moment to where they're deciding they're cherry picking what they're going to accept and what they're not going to accept. It's all based on money. Yes. And so when we're going to deal with these courts in these different topics, we have to make sure that we hammer the point. Like in my situation, we're going to hammer the point that the Bankruptcy Act of thirty three did happen. Here's the proof. OK, here's the IRS code and here's what it says. And so our process is pursuant to the IRS code. Is it the intent of the court? Is it the intent of the plaintiff to suggest that all this is nonsense, that we don't have to pay taxes and I can hand you the hundred dollar bill and you're going to exchange it for gold today? So this is how and this is how we extract information out of these people and we turn around and we use it against them. And when you use their own garbage against them, their whole argument, everything falls apart at the seams. And they don't know what to do. They panic. They start calling you names. And they don't want to talk about it. Sound familiar? Absolutely. Okay. So, yeah, this is the nonsense that they're pulling. So this is how we get to them. We use their stuff against them. And we have to stop consenting to their nonsense because it's all nonsense. It doesn't apply to us. So, yeah, that was a lot of fun on Friday. So, yeah, we like it. Well, how did how did the meeting? Well, the meeting with her ex, did you get any more communications with your with the court appointed fraud? Well, they were just there to give us information. Basically, what I took out of it and the reason why they do this is because most pro se's don't know what to do. They're not very educated on the law. And because I tried to eavesdrop on some of the other conversations, what was going on, and most of them was they're trying to get you to hire an attorney or they're trying to discourage you to drop your case. And that was the basic premise of the whole thing. Or they, they'll go into summary disposition. And as soon as you get in the court, it's going to be, it's going to be, you know, they're, they claim sovereign immunity and then they dismiss it with prejudice. Yeah. That's the, and it's always standing and immunity that they go to. You have no standing and you, you know, and we have all the immunity. See, we do have standing. Why? Because we have the right to air our grievances before a court of competent jurisdiction. Right. But that's what they always allege. So we may end up having to take this to the next level. We may actually have to file injunctions with the U.S. Supreme Court to knock and have them stop doing this crap because what they're doing is unlawful. Now, another trick that they like to use is when I'm talking to these attorneys, I'm talking lawfully. They're talking legally. And they want to try and force you over to that legal side and not to remain on the lawful side. So when I'm talking to them and saying, hey, my rights on this, my rights on that, that's the lawful side. They're trying to get you on the legal side and say, well, according to the administrative rules, according to the administrative guidelines, according to the administrative laws, no, we don't see it that way. So you've got to force them and you've got to call them out on it. Now, one of the things that happened during the conference with the treasurer and her two attorneys, David Burris, the attorney for Genoa Township, he filed a brief in that case whereby he names myself and others as sovereign citizens. And he included a whole bunch of exhibits. contained in those exhibits were documents filed with the federal court in Detroit pertaining to a gal named Misty who was being held in the women's prison. I think, I don't know if I've talked to you about her before or not, but she was on law, she was, she was, she was Shanghai. Okay. And sent to prison for two years. because she was investigating a judge, Judge Gearhart in Tuscola County. And so they shanghaied her on bogus charges. We had proof. I was to testify at her trial. And when I walked into the courthouse as a witness to testify, I was surrounded by sheriff and Tuscola County Police. I was arrested under the claim of a warrant for my arrest. from Livingston County and they transported me from Tuscola County to Livingston County and held me there till three o'clock in the afternoon where I finally got before Judge Sherwood, or no, I'm sorry, not Judge, but Magistrate Sherwood. And They got me on the little TV monitor and he goes, okay, you're here for a bench warrant, blah, blah, blah. I said, really? I said, what was the basis of that bench warrant? Well, you didn't show up for a hearing. Really? That's interesting. I said, can you show me the proof of service where that hearing was scheduled? And he's going through the files. There were three cases, three files, and he went through everything. He's like, he looks at the camera and he goes, you're not supposed to be here. because there was no proof of service. So he realized, he goes, you got to leave. He goes, you cannot be here. You have to leave. You have to be discharged immediately. They held me for several more hours until the trial was over with in Tuscola County. So I couldn't get back to testify. These guys are so dirty. Yes. It absolutely runs like a mafia. Now, what was I going to testify to? She was arrested by the Michigan State Police. One of the charges was having a dangerous weapon in her backseat. The dangerous weapon was a box cutter that she used at work. I'm a contractor. Yes. i have a box cutter in my you know that we carry in our bags you know our tool bags i mean every who doesn't have a box cutter most most you know contractors and what i have have box cutters that was one of the charges so give me an idea how bad this was shanghai anyway i was to testify and again she was arrested by the michigan state police my testimony was to show and prove because I had the certifi that the michigan state p de facto pursuant to Nort they did not want that on I said that's pretty close to the one where they said that they, when you were bringing charges against Whitmer to the Michigan State Police, mucked that up substantially and threatened your life, didn't they? Yes, they did. Yes, they did. This is not going to go well for these people into the future. I hope you've got all the names, and I know you have that documented, and I hope that that date comes because they don't have the right to just protect people these untouchable judges and politicians that they're working for. It's not the purpose. Right. So to everybody out there, if you get stopped by an MSP, take the ticket, somehow get a hold of us. We have the proof that the MSP is de facto. They have no authority to stop, detain, arrest, or issue a security instrument, i.e. a ticket. They have no authority whatsoever to do so. So and this is this is where you put the officer on the stand. You know, are you a jury officer holding a jury office? Oh, well, I don't know. I'm not really sure what that means. OK, well, have you ever heard of this? Have you and you lead them down the path by your questions and get him to commit? And then once you got the committal, then you say, OK. And for the record, we have a certified document from their department, from the MSP, stating that they're in office de facto. They have no proof that they're de jure. It doesn't exist. Those documents don't exist. They're de facto, by their own admission. Guess what, Judge? He has no authority. This court has no jurisdiction. Case has to be dismissed. We're done here. End of story. Now, this not only applies to the MSP. This applies to city police. This applies to township police. This applies to the zoning boards. This applies to your ordinance officer. This applies to your tax assessor. They're all de facto offices, all of them. And we've got proof by their own admission that they're that. We send all these departments from all different cities these FOIAs. And they respond and they all come back with the same response. They cannot prove their de jure status. So what authority do they have? None. Well, they're corporations, too. I mean, when you start looking into the corporate structure, they are for-profit corporations. Yes. And that's the big problem right there. Because even if they haven't, you know, say that they don't claim they do, look for the EIN number. And they've got that EIN number. So that puts them into a whole other category of thievery. And you serve the federal court right now is the issue regarding the bar's legitimacy. Okay. In part, you're actually doing that. You're going after him in federal court. Yeah. Oh, this is going to be epic. I love it. That's why they're probably sitting on the mo on the motion. Cause they don't want to rule on it. And, um, what I pointed out was that, okay, who created the state bar of Michigan, the sub Michigan Supreme court administrator's office. They're created by the Supreme Court of Michigan. Well, when was the State Bar of Michigan created? Was it in nineteen thirty five, nineteen thirty seven, somewhere around there? Anyway, it falls under the nineteen oh eight constitution for the state of Michigan. Nowhere anywhere in the language of the nineteen oh eight constitution is it permissible for the state Supreme Court to create a what's called a public body corporate. That language does not exist. So they created it out of thin air. Well, what do we know about creating an office out of thin air? It's de facto. And our attorneys are public functionaries as officers of the court. So if the Supreme Court didn't have the delegated authority to create a public body corporate, and a public body corporate by definition means that they're a corporation. You can sue and they can be sued. So maybe we should start suing them. Anyway, I point out the fact that that language never existed in the nineteen only constitution. Guess what? It also does not exist in the sixty three constitution. So they have no authority. And I'm still waiting for the bar to file that lawsuit against me for practicing law without a license. Still waiting. No answer. They won't. Apparently they've given up on that. So, um, That would have been fun to do. So, but yeah, yeah, I got the, I got a, yeah, there's a motion. The motion to dismiss the case contains the part about the fact that they're, they're, they're an office de facto that they have no authority, that the Supreme court had no ability to create the bar in the first place. Furthermore, as a bar attorney, they can only represent corporate their own themselves as a corporation. None, not another corporation. So what are they doing under, what is it, People v. California Corporation, it's the unauthorized practice of law. They don't have the ability, the authority to do that. So you go into court and the prosecutor starts chirping, I object. Why? Well, it's come to my attention the prosecutor doesn't have a license to practice law in the state of Michigan. Prove it. Bar card's not a license. Supreme Court has ruled on that. So you show me your license. And what you want to do is before you call that out, you want that prosecutor to be under oath. When a prosecutor gets up there and he starts chirping away, what's he doing? He's giving hearsay on the record. How do you force them to take an oath? And do you just say you're not under oath so this doesn't count? I object. Statements of counsel are never faxed before the court. He has to be sworn in, Judge. Get him sworn in. Once he's sworn in, then you object again. It's come to my attention. He doesn't have a license to practice law in the state of Michigan. Bar card's not a license. Now, what happened in my case, the judge ordered the prosecutor to raise his hand, swore him in, and asked him, do you have a license to practice law in the state of Michigan? Oh, yes, I do. I said, well, judge, I right here, I got a FOIA response from the prosecutor's office stating he doesn't have a license. I have another one from the AG's office and another one from the Department of Licensing and Regulatory Affairs. They don't license attorneys. So what executive branch or agency issued the license? Because that's a licensing issue is executive branch. So what department or agency within the executive branch issued the license to practice law? There isn't any. They're claiming that being a member is the license. Well, no, you can't self-license. If you're going to self-license, well, thank you very much for setting the precedent. Now we can all self-license. That means we have a license for anything and everything we want to do. Well, that's kind of what they've done across the board for our entire government. They just kind of say, oh, we can do this. So why aren't people doing it? That's a good point and a great question to bring up right now. Why aren't we picking up the weapons on the battlefield of justice here and use the weapons that they're using? I've been totally against nonprofits just because of the amount of corruption in it. But all of a sudden it dawned on me that if we do set up nonprofits, honest people, we can literally pull that money out of the taxation loop and put it into the things we want to have funded. Did you know that a private member association does not have to follow state or federal law? Yes, I do know that. So create a PMA. It exempts you from all their administrative nonsense. Get out from under it. Does it pull out the taxes that they're paying on the money, though? That's the one thing that if you do the nonprofit and people donate to it, they don't have to pay the taxes. So, therefore, it's kind of a tax protest if it's done the correct way and not just for corruption. And, in fact, just so everybody knows, I'm in the process right now. Once I realize that this gives people kind of a tax protest to get some of the money out of going to the government, It's like, why wouldn't we use this? And as long as it's honest. That's the question that we have to ask. There's, there's ways of using this, the exact things, same things that they do and use it against them. Just like the private membership association. That's why they didn't, that's why they're not going after them because Hillary Clinton used them as like, like, you know, foundation fatty out there. We got foundations all over the place. And that's in order to subvert and do a walk, you know, a, a, a workaround for the way that the laws work on us who are actually honest. Why wouldn't we pick those weapons up and use it against them as a tax protest? Honestly, think about this, guys. And I mean, I've been staunchly against this. Until one of my Green Beret friends explained this to me and I'm like, you got to be kidding me. I've never thought of it that way, but it is. And then I'm like, wow, this really is a tax protest if it's done the right way and not going through the NGOs who are subverting this nation. Think about it, guys. Think it through because there's some wisdom here. yeah and pmas same thing you do you do a pma and you are you have effectively used their weapon to beat the snot out of them i've got a gal here's the other thing that's why i always push the trust own nothing control everything so everything's through trust bank accounts everything What if they change the trust law? Because this is what we've been... I've just got some questions. Not that I'm trying to nail you here. Oh, yeah. Go ahead. When I look at, say, what was happening with Ask My Tax, that wasn't about taxes. That was about trust and conservatorship so that they could literally insert a conservator in between you know, in front of the family and take everything they have. That's that's what it looked like to both myself and you. So it wasn't about avoiding property taxes at all. We already have that on the books as a way to not pay property taxes. The Constitution guarantees that it's already there. Right. So why add why add the layers? Well, they got to they got to create, you know, they do they like to work on people's emotions. And people are upset about property taxes. So what do they do? They click on or they attach themselves like a leech to your emotions to get you to do something you would not otherwise do if you really understood and did the research on what they're proposing. So they always want to, they're like leeches. They attach themselves to your emotions. Business should have no emotions. Business is business. It's not personal. So keep your emotions out of it. Keep your emotions at bay and just think it through. Do your research. You know, you got to, you know, you just can't. Well, I saw something on TikTok, so therefore it is. No, do a deep dive on it. You'll be surprised what you find sometimes. I think a lot of these influencers that are out there on TikTok and all the other social media, I think a lot of them are probably agents or CIA ops or deep state ops that are spreading disinformation that can confuse people. A lot of them are because when you call them out on it, here's a real test. You see somebody on one of these things and they're saying, well, if you do this or do that, have they done it? If they have... Were they successful? Show me where you were successful in doing what you're doing. When I talk about things on here, when I talk about things on the other channels I do and such, I'm talking about things that I have physically done. I have firsthand knowledge of. It isn't something more. Hey, I read a book and said, yeah, this is the way you're supposed to do it. No, I actually go out there and do it. I don't have success on everything. There's a lot of failures in this too. It's trial and error. It's a learning process. You're going to fail and you have to get used to doing things that you don't know and fall down a couple of times. But every time you fall down, it's like a toddler learning to walk. You, you, you know, you're going to be kind of like, oh, like that for a little while. But after a while, you're going to be running, sprinting, and then you'll get in that race to be, you know, to be the first to cross the finish line. But it takes time. Yep. So... You know, Edison made, you know, tried how many times to make a light bulb before he was actually successful. So that's how you got to look at it. So not every time is going. But I, you know, the things that we do and that I've done, that's what I talk about. I'm telling you what I've been, what I've done, where I'm successful, how I did it. That's the other thing I'm showing, you know, giving you a step by step. Now, you got to do is, you know, copy, paste and repeat. And you're going to have probably the same results. Now, can I guarantee those results every time? No, because believe me, you never know what side of the bed the judge is going to get up on sometimes or how some of these politicians are going to react. You know, I went to one township. I offered them an olive branch to help them act, you know, de jure that they operate as a guarantee as a Republican form of government. You think they'd reach out to me? No. What are they doing? They're right back to their old ways again, following what the bar attorney is telling them to do. So are they going to learn a hard lesson? You bet they are. So, you know, I can't you lead a horse to water, but you can't make them drink. So, you know, sometimes We don't want to spare the rod on the child. And I call the children of Congress. That's the reason why I call them children of Congress. Because if you don't supervise them, they're going to run amok. So, but I was going to make another point. I just blanked out on what I was going to say. I'm, I'm looking at the chat and I, I, uh, respond to things on the chat that come up too. It's like, uh, uh, they drag we, the people into their PMA illegitimately. I've experienced incredible rights violations by state police, city police, and several administrative hearing judges. And also said, aren't we all dead in their eyes? Yeah. We're a commodity to them. Okay. Uh, that's where, um, you know, they, they treat us as, as chattel. And so we have to make them understand that. Well, first off, and I've done this, I did this to judge pain one time and always he pissed. Um, I wouldn't cross the bar and finally he convinced me to cross the bars across the bar and he starts in on me. And I just looked down and said, you know, don't you have a fiduciary responsibility to the beneficiary? Me. And he looked at me with looks could kill. He grabbed my file, which was about, you know, six or eight inches thick, picks it up, slams it down on the desk. We're going to recess. Well, what did I just do? What did I just do to him? I forced him to shut down the public side. He leaves the court, comes back a little while later, resets the court. Now we're in the private. How do I know we were in the private? Because he wanted to talk to me man to man and set it on the record. So if you can get a judge to say, okay, I'll talk to you man to man. He is now in the private. He's on the private side of things, not the public. And you gotta know what to do, you gotta know what to say when you get a judge to do that. Or if you can get him to go into chambers, that's in the private as well. And, oh, that's what I was gonna get lead back to. When we were on Friday with the attorneys and the treasurer, the documents that David Burris had filed were on Misty's case. and where I was her POA for taking care of her legal documents. And we had filed several documents with the federal court. The case, the case that we had done on her behalf was in the private. Okay, those those those documents were not supposed to be published. And Burris published them. We raised it to the attorneys. And he looked it up. He says, hey, this is out of our court. I said, yeah, I know. So he starts looking at it. He got on the computer. He starts looking at it. He goes, in order for him to publish something that's supposed to be private, a private document, he had to get permission from the court to do so. And he has to notify the other parties. He didn't do any of it. So Burris... We can file now sanctions against him. All of us can file sanctions against him for publishing something that should never have been published in the public. It was private. It was a secure document. And for him to do that, he's in trouble now. So we're going to file sanctions against him for doing so. And the federal court now knows that it's been made and now made aware that what he what he did And I'm sure we're not going to have too much trouble with him on that point. But this is the shenanigans that these attorneys pull. They think they can do whatever they want. They can't. They're not going to unless you let them. Well, I think that the sanction process is definitely something that people need to understand and learn, too. You know, all of these different things that we're learning every week, it seems like there's an avalanche of knowledge out there. But you just got to do a little bit at a time. And all of a sudden, after a while, if you learn something new every single day in the process, think about how much you could learn within a year. Mm-hmm. And the time it takes to watch a halftime show, a football game, you can write a book for you. Yeah, or doom scrolling. Do something outside of a normal activity and educate yourself on things. I'm personally a fan of turn the programming off. I don't watch TV. I will watch instructional videos. The last week I've been on a chemistry bent as well as gemstones and custom jewelry just to see how the metallurgy works. I'm really fascinated with all kinds of things like that, including like sustainable, radical sustainable farming. I'm very interested in that. And I know everybody has their own things that they're interested in. So like if you get a topic that comes to your mind, like what we're talking about here, start thinking. Looking into it. Educate yourself. Ask some questions. Well, this doesn't make sense to me. Why does it work that way? And honestly, the best way to figure things out is to start asking questions about something you don't understand. It's okay not to know things. It's okay. to say, I don't know anything about this, and I'm going to dig into it because I want to know. We don't all have to be, you know, the perception of the adult in the room that knows everything. The smartest person just says, I don't know anything about this, so please teach me what you know. And that's okay to do that. That's not a shameful thing. No, I get people ask me things all the time, and it's like, no, I've not looked into that. Or I have no, you know, it's not, you know, something I've actually dove into. Um, if they, uh, if it's something that I like, you know what, maybe I should take a hard look at that. I will, uh, some things I put on the back burner because I got too many other things on the front burner right now that I'm trying to get, uh, finished up with. So but yeah, there's there's times when people will ask me something about something, you know, even about trust. You know, I go I teach a lot of stuff about trust. Do I know everything about trust? No, because every once in a while someone will throw a question at me. I'm like, yeah, I've never thought about that. A lot of times like for one case in relation to trust, I've never had a for one K. So I cannot speak to what you should or should not do with your for one K in relation to a trust. And I'm not going to try because I've never done one, never had one. And that's something I've never looked into to advise somebody on. I would suggest talking to a financial advisor on that to get some ideas on that. But, you know, so, yeah, there's there's things that I, you know, I'm not saying I know everything. I don't. I learn things every day. And every day that goes by that you don't learn something is a wasted day. Mm hmm. Yeah, tackle what you don't know. That's where life starts getting fun because you go back to being more like a child. Remember when you were a child and you had all these questions. Why is the sky blue? Why is the grass green? What do worms eat? You know, things that kids would think of, right? And then all of a sudden we get to a point where our questions outpace our parents' knowledge. And our teacher's knowledge. And then all of a sudden it starts to stall out and we start getting bored because the system is not geared, especially the indoctrination camps, to handle good questions. So people start feeling stupid for asking questions because the people that can't answer them. try to subvert their questions. Well, now we've got everything at our fingertips. When you have in the digital space, you can go to AI and ask questions, but you got to check it because it's oftentimes wrong, but it's a great start to ask more questions. AI will come up with something and go, I wonder if this is right. I'm going to start checking other sources or maybe you have other questions. This doesn't seem right. Can you back this up? And or why would you, if you're going to make a compound, how is it made naturally? Where does this come from in nature? Well, it doesn't follow the formulas you just put out there. So Can you give me another source? You can keep asking questions. And the great thing is that if you run an unmoderated AI like Lama and such, you're going to get the answers you're looking for because it's not curating or programming in the answers. If you're in some of the large language models and such, you can do it, but you just got to ask a lot more questions. and pin it down when you when something starts to and every every question you ask on there should be triggering why is this true is it true you should never accept what it says at face value but that goes that goes to learning to question everything with people you have to question all the time people's motives are they getting their information from right sources they may be trying But you've got to ask those questions. And that's how we self-educate. We get more books. We start looking into things that maybe we don't have any idea or any knowledge of and tackle it. Go try it. You know, what do you know about cows? What do you know about horses? I tell you what, the biggest wisdom that I ever hear is in the horse community. The younger people, they're always trying to prove that they're the toughest, the smartest, and that they've got all the knowledge on horses. It's kind of hysterical. It really is. It's kind of funny because they'll come in and say, oh, I know everything about horses. Really? Where did you learn that? Oh, I've gone on a couple of trail rides or I rode a pony on a pony circle in the fairs. Yeah. Okay. I see what you're saying here. But actual horse people who are older, you'll talk to them and they'll say, you never master horses. Never, ever, ever do you master horses because not until the day you die. You'll learn things. But that is one thing that no one ever masters. You know? And it's okay to learn that. You asked me earlier about the trust and the laws. Yes. And yeah, they're constantly, right now they're trying to change some more of the trust laws again. That's my concern. That's always my concern with doing trust work. Here's the question. Who delegated them the authority to oversee our trust? No one. No one. They took it. They stole it. They delegated it to themselves. So there's your start. Okay. First question. Where did you acquire, where did this court acquire the delegated authority over my trust? They don't, they can't. Where does the court have any delegated authority over the beneficiaries? They don't, they can't. So that's how you call them out on it to begin with, okay? If I'm being dragged into court on a trust matter, well, first off, who, you know, unless they're a party to the trust, they have no authority to bring a claim in court against the trust. Number two, if we're going to look at the trust, what is the jurisdiction of the trust? Now, when you have an attorney write your trust, they always put the same language in there. This trust follows the laws of the state of Michigan, okay? Follows the laws of the state of Michigan. Which laws? Are we talking about the law of the land? Are we talking about God's law. We talk about common law, feudal law, laws of physics, administrative law. See, that's what they're gearing you for is administrative law. Administrative law nine times out of ten is unconstitutional because most of it is premised on the APA, the Administrative Procedures Act of The attorneys purposely put it in that jurisdiction, your trust into that jurisdiction. I don't do that. I have a different jurisdiction on my trust. And I've had, and I think I've gone over it on your show, where the bank, when we filed for a bank account with a key bank, we met with their private banker, we met with their attorney, and their attorney went through, read the trust, and came back with a written response The number one thing that they didn't like that they wanted removed from the trust was God and the Constitution. Now, why would they want that removed? Because it's not administrative. It doesn't fall within the Michigan trust code. Where did they have the authority to create a trust code to begin with? They don't. But they want to control and manipulate everyone and everything. Let me ask you a question. You might have an answer for this. Can you put a nonprofit into a private membership association? Can you put a nonprofit into a PMA? Yes, because PMAs are outside of anything the government has jurisdiction over. Yeah, you can put anything into a PMA. You can put a PMA, then you turn around and put the PMA into a trust. So you could do that, and that way, would that absolve you from reporting? From what? Reporting for the nonprofit. Okay. Okay. Who knows if the IRS is even working right now because they don't have a commissioner. You know, it's like President Trump is stripping things out for you. We don't use the word income. Okay. Okay. Nothing is an income. And when you have funds coming in, is it a donation? Yeah, it should be a donation. If you're set up as a PMA, those are donations. So that's not income. And then if you have, let's say, for example, some trustees that oversee the PMA and its administration, what you're doing is reimbursing them for their time. You're not paying them an income. You're not paying them a wage. You're reimbursing for their time. Their time is valuable. It's precious. You want to reimburse them for that time. So it's not an income. It's not taxable. So the language, it's important to watch the language in what you do. I had one gal set up a trust and she went to her employer and filed a W-A-B-E-N so that her paycheck went, instead of to her, it went and was written out to the name of the trust and went to the trust. Now she doesn't have an income. The funds go to the trust. Now the trust turns around and has to compensate the trustee for their time. So that reimbursement is non-taxable. Okay. So here's a question. Show me, anybody, show me a federal or state law that says you're breaking the law by failure to pay a debt. Show me federal or state law that says you actually have to pay income tax. It's totally unconstitutional anyway. There isn't any, it's voluntary. taxes are voluntary can't be mandated the u.s supreme court in obamacare justice scalia ruled that even the commerce clause and attachment to the necessary and proper clause the government cannot mandate you to buy a product or service of the government they can't force you to do that so if you can't force me to buy a product or service from the government That means what? Well, you can't mandate me to get a driver's license. You can't mandate me to register my car. You can't mandate me to get a license for anything. That's a service that they're providing, right? They're claiming that your occupation is illegal without their license. So if we're not mandated to buy their products or services, stop funding them. Why is everybody funding them? You don't like what they're doing, stop funding them. It's all about the word salad. You gotta watch, you gotta learn the word salad. Well, and I think the problem is, is that we've gone so far away from what was intended for this country that nobody even can get their arms around how big the theft of the the identity of the nation was and the protection for individual rights. None of us have lived free. There's nobody alive. that hasn't been under this tyranny for so long that they don't even know what it looks like. It's like somebody coming out of out of a cave that's been in there for their entire lives. And they come out and see the light. And it's like they can't even understand how This can be because it's such a shift in reality. But that's going to have to happen. We're going to have to say, wait a minute. All of this has been wrong. The people that have gotten involved in this have been wrong. We were forced into a system which denied God, which was never intended to be the way it is. We've been in basically a prison from the day we were born. Pretty much, yeah. That's why when, what was it? Was it Pennsylvania school board told the parents at a school board meeting that the children were- Property of the state, isn't it? Property of the state. Yes, thank you. Yeah. They were correct. They were correct. The children are property of the state because as the mother, when you sign the birth certificate, you're signing a contract making the child property of the state. People don't realize this. People don't know. Read your birth certificates. The informant is who? The mother. Why is the mother listed as an informant? It's a good question. So words have meanings and they like to use the Bar Association likes to manipulate the words. OK, you think my father, eighty eight years old, He gets so frustrated because I point these things out to him, and he now sees it more than ever, but he's pissed because at eight years old, he goes, I've been lying to him my entire life. They take a word. They change the meaning. They don't tell you they change the meaning so that when you have a conversation with them, they are using their definitions. You think it's this definition that you've grown up with, and you wonder why – they're able to do what they do to you because they're using their definitions on their words. It's the same word, but with a different definition. Case in point, you ever heard, you know, you hear United States. So if I were to say, define what the United States is, what would you say? Well, except I don't believe it was properly federated or confederated. It's like it is a grouping or it should be a country, but I'm not really sure that that's actually accurate at this point in time. According to Congress, Title XXVIII, Section three zero zero two. It's a corporation. Fifteen A states the United States is a federal corporation. Well, that's a thing. It's like the United States is a corporation, but so are all the other government entities. They're all corporations. This is not a republic as we, well, it is, but they've just kind of inserted themselves and lied to all of us. They don't have a rule over you. How does a corporation guarantee us a republican form of government? It can't. It can't. Show me where, and I know John and Ron and a few others, you know, get on the harp about democracy. We're not a democracy. Nowhere in our founding documents is the word democracy. Well, guess what? Corporation doesn't appear anywhere in our founding documents. Nowhere. But that's what runs everything. Public body corporate is not there. Charter is not there. None of those words exist in our founding documents. So why are we using them? Why are we operating under that term? We shouldn't be. If we're a republic, then we self-govern. We tell them how and what we need. We take care of shit ourselves. They're supposed to be listening to us and they don't. One of the ways that they're doing that now is even in the townships, they put public comment after the vote. And then they tell you, you've got three minutes to talk. Well, they've been babbling on it in their idiocracy out there. for hours and we can't we can't talk and if you give them anything i gave notices and they said oh it's just it's a handout that we were handed it's like no this was a legal notice and they then they you know they just brush everything under the under the table and be on their agenda They refuse. We've tried. Oh, so now not only are they in violation of your rights under the Republic, because you have a right to air your grievance, and they're denying you that right. Now you've got a claim on them for that. But aren't they also in violation of the Public Meetings Act? Yeah. Yeah, they violate that all the time. I always ask them right off the bat, do you follow Robert's rules of order? Well, kind of. Oh, so we're playing kind of pregnant today. Okay, no problem. So when you tell me I only got three minutes, well, we kind of mean three minutes, right? Yeah, a double standard. Hey, I'm going to bring Robert Cowper on a minute. I think this is going to get interesting. Morning, Robert. How you doing? I can't hear you. Oh, sorry. Oh, there you are. Gotcha. Can you hear me? Yep. Fantastic. I saw you making comments backstage here and such and on the text. And I know you have a lot to say about this whole subject too. And Robert is a veteran. He's also a postal worker and a very good friend of ours. And so let's start talking about what Mike was talking about too, because I'm pretty sure you're going to uphold all of this. Well, yeah, you're right because like city council, when I've been to city council, I really can't even go anymore because the Freed, his name is James Freed, he's the... city manager, he decided to tell people that if you're not from Port Huron, then you don't really get to speak. So I'm Port Huron Township. And I was like, what right do you have to do that? Article one, section one of Michigan Constitution says you work for us, not the other way around. And he has to go to his lawyer, which the lawyer likes to talk about legalese, which we don't even follow legalese because they're all a bunch of, they work for the crown. So to me, all lawyers are null and void. So, you know, all this legalese and crap, we need to get rid of it. We got to go back. You know, Trump talks about common sense. Well, we need common sense, common grammar, and, you know, common law. And, you know, you were talking about the police and stuff like that. The only actual law is the sheriff. And our sheriff down here in St. Clair County, he screwed a pooch because he allowed the FBI to come into our jurisdiction. FBI, all those three-digit agencies are corrupt. And I don't care who's in charge of them. I don't care if, you know, who we got now, all these people that are saying that they're, you know, working with the FBI. We don't need them. We don't need them because Kennedy even tried to use special forces to get rid of like the CIA and things of that nature. That's how we created our special forces units, you know? So yeah, you're, you're, you're right on a lot of stuff. So people just have to wake up. When I, when I go to the, when I used to go to the term, what's that? The FBI created the sovereign citizen term. They started in nineteen ninety seven through their anti-terrorist division and put out their report in twenty eleven and the Supreme Court administrators are putting out seminar literature. I've got copies of them talking about sovereign citizens' behavior in courtrooms and such. They demonize anybody who stands up to their authority. That's a good tale that they are not following the Constitution, that they are a domestic terrorist organization doing what they're doing. Just like the veterans. They consider veterans of the We're still with the military, whether we're veterans or not. And these veterans need to wake up, some of them, because, you know, I listen to Rattletrap and stuff, and he's right on the money. But there are some veterans that they don't understand. When they took that oath, it doesn't go away. That oath is with you until the day you die, you know. And some of these veterans, they're mad about what's going on and stuff. They don't realize what's going on. They don't follow the war manual. You know, if you follow that war manual, everything in detail is going right now, part of the war manual, because the military is the ones that are in charge. That's why we have, you know, when you see Trump with all those flags, the flags don't have the gold fringe anymore. That's going back to the Republic, the top of the flagpole that has a military spear on it. It's no longer an eagle. There's so many symbols, and symbol as I, you know, they don't understand it. But people just have to start waking up. When I used to go to the poor township, you know, to talk to the people, I'd hold up that Michigan Constitution book, which, you know, we need to go back to the organic Constitution more toward the Iroquois Treaty, you know. But that Michigan Constitution, Article I, Section I says, basically, in a nutshell, you work for us, not the other way around. Because they sit up on that platform and they look down on you like you're they created a war. They actually created a war with that Michigan, with that American flag, with the gold fringe and the eagle on top. They're saying the corporation is in charge of you. And that's wrong. You know what I'm saying? Yep. Yep. So yeah, people got to educate themselves. It's all about education. And they purposely dumbed everybody down through the school system. Here's another thing. Teachers are public functionaries also. Anybody who gets a paycheck is. Where in our constitutions is it permissible for the government to unionize? Can you imagine if Congress were to unionize? Right. Or how about, you know, the executive branch? Well, we're going to we're going to unionize and then we're going to go on strike. Really? That's interesting. Yeah. Anybody that's in office, whether they're elected in or not, and receives a payment from the government in that capacity, they they are you know, they are liable for all of this if they work for the corporation and they're working against us. When COVID went on and nurses were given the clot shot to people, you know, and employers that were requiring people to get the shot. You're you're kind of liable for what you did. Crimes against humanity right there. That's executive order. That's executive order. What is it? One, four, eight, one, three, eight, four, eight. I believe it is. And that that's not going away. And people don't understand that these nurses that, that cry and say, you know, well, I was just doing my job ain't going to cut it. When you become, when you go to a tribunal, they're not going to, they'd already know what you've done. You know what I mean? We already know what they've done. So many of us know who did it and what they've done. It's not going away. It's not going away. And people like me, I keep harping on it. When I talk to the mental health board, I'm like, you guys... You guys created, you know, you created this. You could have checked this stuff out. I took NBC. I told you before, Governor, I took NBC school in the military. That's nuclear, biological, chemical warfare. I know, you know, you're telling me to don this stupid mask. And it was a it was a it was a fake. You know, it won't protect you. I'm wearing a beard. It was an airborne deal. It would come right through your mask. You know, and if you're going against this chain link fence, Roger that. And like I told them, if you're going to play the game, you're going to play it correctly. There needs to be three stations. There needs to be a station where I can go get masks and then I can throw them away in a disposable area where nobody would be all contaminated. It keeps all the contamination in one spot and then another place where I get new ones. Those are the three stations. When I used to walk around on the post office and I'd deliver mail, I'd see these masks in the gutter going down into the sewer. So if this was a true pandemic, you know it was a plandemic, there would be people dead all over the place. And that's what people got to do and wake up. You know what I mean? I'm a contractor. Go sand drywall for an hour wearing those masks and see what happens. Exactly. I got to do nothing. Exactly. You still get it in your lungs. And then you're supposed to breathe out carbon dioxide. You got all these little kids running around in these stupid masks. And where's that carbon dioxide going? Into the mask and it's going back into their body. That's why a lot of people had all the rashes around their mouths and such. I am disgusted with what happened. I did want to read something while you guys were here because I want to pepper in some good news here. I do believe that the good guys are in charge. I am absolutely an unwavering person who has extreme gratitude to General Flynn Admiral Rogers and President Trump. And I don't think that all the hysteria out there for what they're doing. It's not exactly what people have to look past, look past things into what's actually happening. I mean, they're not going to storm the castle by walking right up to the front door. OK, this is too complicated. It was too complex. And there's too many things that had to be addressed. So I wanted to read this to you because I thought this was interesting. This past Sunday night, this is from General Flynn, and I did communicate with him this week. This past Sunday night, Glenn Beck handed me an original pair of spectacles that belonged to George Washington. There are moments that stop you cold and remind you exactly of what we're fighting for. This was one of them. the man who led a ragged army through impossible odds, who refused to become a king when the world would have handed him one, who warned us about the dangers of faction and foreign entanglement. Washington didn't fight for his generation alone. He fought for every generation that would come after. Hang on a minute. Okay. He fought for your children, your grandchildren. He fought for a country he would never fully see completed. That's the weight of what he carried, and that's the weight we carry now. Every single patriot is in this category. All of us that have endured scorn, attacks, loss of friends, loss of money, our treasure, because we pledged it all, okay? The future of this country is not guaranteed. It never has been. Every generation gets handed the torch and asked the same question. Will you hold it or will you drop it? Right now, in this moment, that question has never been more urgent. Our institutions have been corrupted. Our borders have been exploited. Our children have been taught to be ashamed of the very flag Washington bled beneath. But I'll tell you what, I felt holding those spectacles. I felt resolve. Washington put those lenses to his eyes so he could see clearly in the darkness of his time. That's exactly what we're called to do in ours. See clearly, stand firmly, and refuse to surrender one inch of what he and every patriot after him purchased with their lives. And thank you, Glenn Beck. That's what he's saying. That's General Flynn. And I'm going to tell you what. Every single one of us, the lens that all of us needs to be putting on right now is the lens of truth. and the lens of god's eye seeing things with discernment and wisdom if we ask him he will give us the discernment and the truth and the wisdom and the guidance and that's going to mean taking off the rose-colored glasses that have been peddled to us through Our entire lives, through institutions, through the uniparty out there, through the judicial, the corrupt judicial system, through everything that we ever believed in that's been man-made. We're going to have to get those glasses off and stop looking at people as going to be the next savior because we already have one. And we don't need to be looking for one because God himself provided the way, will always provide the way. If we're willing to stop being co-opted by the satanic system in the world, we have to turn to God and a savior, Jesus Christ. That is the only way. And so those are the glasses and lenses that we need to see through. If we don't do that, we will lose. I am completely convinced that there's enough of us who actually live by that code, live by that commitment to God, that this is going to get turned around. Or, so help us God, we're going to die trying. And I think we're already there. I really think that before this became public, that we already won. The good guys already won this. Now it's getting everybody up to speed and saying, you don't have to pay. what they tell you to pay. If taxes are voluntary, which they are, why are we doing this? Why are we not just trashing these systems that we have been forced to be under through coercion, threat, and arrest? Well, I believe this, Governor. I believe that the IRS is pretty much gone. I do too. But people are giving money to it. And where's that money going to? That's what I want to know. And people got to really listen to the commander in chief. I don't call him the president anymore because we're at war. And he's told you we're at war. Our speaker has said he's a wartime speaker and people, people don't get it. They don't understand what he means by it. It's not just a mistake. He's saying that for a reason. So we're at a wartime. Uh thing and it's it's not just uh, like a big war like you usually see, you know on the television It's it's everything We're at war with god, you know, it's god and the devil, you know, it's it's it's everything. It's a it's a holy war it's everything but um as far as uh trump talking He's told you on on some of the things that we have so much money. We don't know what to do with it You know what i'm saying? He he's, he's talked about all this money. So is this money going into like a savings that we're going to receive sooner, sooner than later? I don't know. I have a guy on tomorrow that's going to be talking exactly about that and where this is going and what the attack is really about. The attack was on London and the Bank of England. This is where it's going. And watch how he's bringing back the gas and oil industry back. to make America independent, truly independent. That's what's happening right now. And there's much more to this. But yeah, Mike, I'm going to give you a chance to bow out if you want to. You're welcome to stay, but I don't want to hold you hostage either. I'm going to have to bow out because I got to take care of some other business, pay some bills. So that mean you, Robert, thank you for your service. Thank you both of you. You're both American heroes in my book. I mean, I, I just dearly, dearly adore you both. And I respect you as, you know, a couple of the bravest of the brave people that I've ever met because you all don't back down. You just walk in there and you, you take ground. I think it's amazing. And, Thank you so much for everything that you've done. Mike, you're amazing. I love talking to you. And I need to talk to you privately a little bit more so that I can talk about what I'm doing with the nonprofit. Because the nonprofit I'm setting up, the primary function is going to be able to help people fund some help when their rights have been violated. And do it the right way, not the way... that they want us to do, but the right way to do it, which is is going to be really important because, you know, all of us here have worked without pay for what we've done. Nobody takes money on Brandenburg News Network. That's part of the deal. It's that we are here trying to write this nation as our civic duty not to be P-A-Y patriots, but hauling it in or having a side a side hustle or anything like this. We actually believe in this nation and we believe standing for each other as one nation under God. That's why we're here. So at any rate, I want to talk to you about this because because there are a lot of people don't don't. have the time and haven't had the time because they're victims of the state and the entirety of this corporate system. They don't even have enough time to get food on the table anymore. And it is sad. And I feel like this is where we start our defense of Americans is the financial stress that everyone's under. So anyhow, thanks, Mike. We'll see you next Tuesday. Thank you for your time and everybody else here. And have a great day. And I'm not even a break now. We're just going to write to Robert here a minute. So have a great day, Mike. How you doing, Governor? Hey, how you doing? Good. How you doing? Doing great. Did I freeze up on you? What's that? Did I freeze up? I'm sorry. Did I freeze? No, you're there. Okay. Looks like I'm not talking or nothing. No, I could see and hear you on a couple of different areas. So you're good. So let's, let's talk about this and where you were, you were rapid fire texting here and, and adding, you know, your opinions in. And I think you think you're, you know, you're very well educated and you really know what's going on. Lost the sound now. Not sure what happened, but I can't hear you. See, you're muted. Try the unmute button. Can you unmute yourself? Not working. Okay. They obviously want to kill what you have to say. So, um, you can, you can leave and go out and come back on and you'll get your sound back. That generally works. So in the meantime, I'll bring up your flyers that you put out there for the postal service. Oh, you got it. Bingo. Perfect. So, um, let's talk about Trump again in the Republic. Okay. Um, just real quick, uh, the, uh, I think, um, I think we're already going into the Republic, you know, um, um, like I said before, I really don't call him president Trump. I call him the commander in chief because he's got a different, um, different, um, I don't want to say that. Yeah. Different role than just the president commander in chief has more, um, more power. And, uh, and he's, he's using it with the, the war manual. And, um, and you can see that happening, you know, if you're, if you're paying attention, what's going on. A lot of people don't like, uh, Derek Johnson, but he's very spot on. He's helped me out a lot. I got his books and, uh, he's very knowledgeable about the, uh, war manual and, um, codes of the UCMJ military code of justice and stuff. And that's where we're at. You know, um, you can see it. Um, a lot of times when Trump says something or he makes, make something, you know, you'll hear Congress do a lot of griping, but they don't do anything about it because it can't, you know what I mean? Because he's, he, like I said, he's in a different atmosphere. So, um, And I've even, I talked to a couple of soldiers one time at a gathering that were recruiters. And I asked them about the flags. And they said, yeah, we're going back. And I said, so what's the spear tip on the flag represent? He goes, us. And I said, cool. He knew exactly what I was talking about. What's your opinion on when President Trump got sworn in? Because there were so many anomalies when Biden didn't get sworn in. The inauguration was highly unusual. So I think that there was something that I don't believe that he was sworn in as president. No. It doesn't make sense to me. And what President Trump did in his inauguration for twenty twenty four was an anomaly, too, which should tell us everything we need to know. Right. Well, when Biden was sworn in, you got to understand the military does everything by the book. They don't do anything by mistake. But so when Biden was sworn in, he wasn't sworn in at the exact time. And when it was time for The swearing in, if you remember, like, I can't remember, Stoppolis, you know who I'm talking about? John Stoppolis or whatever his name is. He switched it over and said, well, let's go over to Andrews Air Force Base. And that's when Trump was flying in on Air Force One. Right. And they had the twenty one gun salute there. The old guard was there. You want the twenty one guns? You don't get that leaving office. And you don't get to fly even though stop list was saying, well, Trump wanted to fly Air Force One for one more time. You don't get that chance. You don't get that choice. You know, he was he was doing that for a reason. And then when Biden was being sworn in. If you remember right, Garth Brooks was playing the song Amazing Grace. That's usually a funeral. That song is usually played at funerals. Right. And there's a salute there too. The gun salute was off too. And so was it when the servicemen or our soldiers turned their back on him. Correct. Right. So when he was going to Arlington Cemetery, there were only three guns. They usually have like four guns for the twenty one gun salute in case there's a misfire. So there was only three guns and he only he didn't get the the full twenty one gun salute. And as the carriage was going down the street heading to Arlington Cemetery, if you watched closely, the commander that was in charge of those officers pulled his unit to about face and he put his hands in his pockets. So when they were going by, instead of what they're supposed to do is no matter who it is, whether you like the guy or not, it's, it's a military thing that you call your units to attention and you stand and you salute that those flags until they go by. Right. So when he told them to go about face, he could have been court martialed for that. Unless he knew, unless he knew something that we were supposed to know, you know what I mean? So, um, and then on when Trump, uh, got, uh, inaugurated this, this, uh, the time, this time, he didn't have his hand on the Bible. If you, if you look close, his hand was not on the Bible. Um, Melania was holding the Bible, but he didn't have his hand on the Bible. That was kind of significant. Like we're back to the Republic, you know? And when he, when he was talking, right. If you watch, the military came up behind him. And there was JAG on one side and military intelligence on the other. And those are specific units. And what he was saying is he's bringing it back to the people. And this is how he's doing it. And if you looked at Obama and all these other people, these fake people that were there, they were looking up like, oh, shit. You see what I'm saying? And they only stayed there for a little bit just to show that this is the way we're going to do it. You know what I mean? Yep, I hear a lot of whining and sobbing about why things are going in the wrong direction, but that's just looking at face value on what the news is telling you. If you're looking at the strategy and applying, say, like game theory, trying to take down an opponent that has so entrenched itself, how are you going to get them out of that entrenched position? And right now, I personally think the greatest threat we have is – brainwashed people who can't see through it and who react rather than respond. They would rather stick with the programming than bucket and decide that we're gonna throw off all of this programming and look at things with a new perspective and maybe we'll see the truth. You can't see the truth if you're not objective on it. You will never find the truth without looking at things through the eyes of a child And that's what Jesus talked about. You have to become like a child to look at things and go, wow, I don't know anything. What's today going to bring? And maybe something new will go just like, boom, slap you upside of the head and go. I missed it my whole life. I mean, that's why they turned their back on Jesus, because they they didn't. They missed him when he walked the earth because they knew everything. And that's unfortunate. Right. And we've been lied to about everything. So it's hard for people to wrap their heads around that. And that's fine. But you have to have like Tara and I, you know, we have an open mind about everything. It's like, oh, OK, I didn't see that coming, you know, because we don't know everything. We're just trying to, trying to figure things out. You know, we were listening to like, I listen more to Derek Johnson than she does, but she has her own places she watches. And then when she gets information, she has to start researching. She, she does a lot of research and believing. I love Tara. Tara was one of those unsung heroes that worked so tirelessly in Twenty-Two behind the scenes. And, I mean, just your wife is a wonderful, lovely, beautiful soul. She's just so sweet and kind. And so much love to Tara if she's out there listening. You know, just amazing. I told my buddy one time, I says, you know, we always get, like, when we're in the military, we get these awards like this. AAM, which is an achievement, an award and you get an achievement medal or you get an ARCOM, which is a little bit higher up and stuff. And the captain has to okay it and everything and different things. And I was like, I'd like to do that to my wife, just get her a big award thing because she, maybe she wasn't in the military, but she's a fighter, you know, and she's like, She doesn't let anything, you know, some of her family thinks she's crazy and stuff and she just ignores it and just keeps on going. You know, she's hardcore. Good charge. Nobody does life alone. We all have people around us that care about us and, when somebody wants to grab all the glory for things, it's kind of like a, it's a pretty sad thing because no, no one, no one does it alone, you know? And I'm, I'm just really, I'm really glad to see you as, you know, as, as, uh, helping with the U S taxpayers party a bit. And I mean, this is, this is kind of exciting because we, I just this morning, I have another County committee that's going to see, uh, And so in the next few weeks, it's like the explosion in Michigan to get away from the Uniparty is really starting to become epic because there's better options out there. And we don't have to keep going down the same old path and listen to them trying to tell us not to listen to what's right and follow our hearts. knowing it's not right, but we're going to do it anyway, because that's the only way we're too afraid to, you know, try something different, you know? And, uh, I, I think that, I think that, uh, that this is going to be an interesting year. I really do. And we're going to see things happen that we never thought were possible. We just see a lot of people, a lot of people that didn't, uh, you know, like with Chris and I, when we were doing security for you, we were like more, um, we were doing security for you and protecting you, but we were also on the kind of like on the outside looking in and everybody that you were, you know, going with and stuff, we could see through them. We were like, you, you people are, you're not even on board with what she's talking about. Like some people would say, you know, you would talk about like, uh, uh, the constitution for, uh, the second amendment rights, you know, uh, and um they weren't even on board they didn't they they're like oh yeah we could do something like that just like um michelle uh what was her name um that was running against uh um Lisa McClain. You remember who, uh, Michelle, uh, what was her last name? I can't remember. Anyways, I had her, I had her sign in my yard, you know, and someone asked her about the second amendment, you know, she was working with you. You know, we went to the, the concerts and stuff like that. And she's supposed to be right on board with you. And she's like, well, uh, I think that we need, my thoughts are we need to do this and that. It's not about that. The Constitution says you have a right to bear arms, period. There's no leeway. There's no qualifiers or disqualifiers for that. That stands the way it is. Right. And she was like hemming and hawing because she didn't want she was like didn't want to get caught up in something. I says, you know what? I got to take my sign out. I got to take your sign out of my yard because you're not on board with what we're doing. You know, restoring law the way it was intended. Right. And so I took her sign out of the yard, you know, because I had your sign in there, too. And it's like. Some of these people, they don't, with these, they got to understand, you know, you've been giving money to these Republican parties and you've been giving money to this and that and this and that. What have they done for you? Nothing. Nothing. It's the same thing every time. You know, I'm listening on the TV and John James is on there. You know, he was a ranger. He was a ranger in the military. The rangers I know, they don't stop. They don't give up. He gave up. No, you're right. And I asked him that. I said, why did you quit? Just like Tom Leonard, another one. They would call me up and stuff because I was a precinct delegate at the time and they wanted my vote. And that's another thing with the precinct delegates. They got to understand That you don't just go to their little parties and stuff and, yeah, you got my vote. That ain't the way it works. You know, you're supposed to go out and ask the people. First, you got to do research on these people to understand so you get information. So when you go out to talk to your constituents, you know, and they say, well, I like this guy. Well, why? Why do you like this guy? You know, so you can help them understand who they are. You know what I mean? Yeah, because they're supposed to be representing us, not representing the party. That's the problem with all the games that I see being played out there. I had an interesting call last night. I'm not going to ding this gal for the call, but it was interesting. I'm not going to tell you who it is because I think she's a very nice person who's trying to do the right thing. And it was in regards to one of the other minor parties that and who they were going to put up for governor and i was like uh this person isn't qualified for the job you're voting for this person because they were they had their rights violated that's not why you hire somebody to do the job and i think that you know what what's important is people have to get it through their head this is not a sports team to win the competition this is choosing someone who has the knowledge the drive, the resolve to get the job done and the expertise. You're not going to go and go to, let's just say, for instance, a financial planner and try to choose a financial planner. Throw them all in the room. They're going to all throw you a party to impress the hell out of you, and you're supposed to vote for them because of the one that brings the best beer. That's exactly how these political parties work. There's no... analysis. There's no vetting. There's no seeing who's got the skills, what the plan is and how it's going to work. No one goes there. And in the in the two major parties and apparently the minor parties either. Now, what we're doing right now is a little bit different. And I'm going to I'm going to reset people's expectations of what the US TPM, which is the Constitution Party in Michigan. We just can't change our name yet because Benson has been subverting and usurping our right to to do that. It's unconstitutional. So we're chipping away on this right now because if we go ahead and do what we should do, she's just going to kick us off the ballot. That's exactly what's going to happen. But we're going down. The focus is on election integrity and holding people accountable. Accountability is not optional. And if we have to go through and go against one of the people that are standing with us, within our party, so be it. It's like if somebody decides to infiltrate the party and do something that is totally unconstitutional, not only are they going to be kicked out soundly, they're going to get sued personally for what they're doing. And so there's accountability. There's an accountability mechanism that we're going to hold to. And so this is not just, oh, party politics as usual. And when people come to like our meetings, I mean, your opinion of our meetings, I want to hear it because we do working meetings. When you show up for a meeting, you're going to be part of a process that's not there to entertain you. We're getting actual work done and expect everyone to put their opinion in to have the best outcome. It's not glory seeking. It's getting the freaking work done. Roger that. Go ahead. You've seen it in action? Yeah. Well, that's like I said with Chris and I. We both talked about it. We're dead set to understand that the reason why you got kicked out of the Republican Party is because you talked about treason. That scared people. They don't understand that it's coming. And they're going to be responsible for what they did. And they got nervous when they were like, we can't let her be at a Republican party because she's talking about treason. And they knew that they were responsible for stuff that happened. I think what was really funny is one of my friends, as well as someone who has done, you know, that I've worked with and such, was on the floor of the house in Michigan. And my picture came up on the Jumbotron then, and he said the entire room got absolutely silent. And one of the guys switched down his drink, state-funded drink that he had there that we're all paying for alcohol for these bastards. And said, she gets in, we're all in trouble. And walked away from the group. They knew it because they knew what was going to come. And that accountability is unfortunately what the parties lack because it is to them, this is a great big party. It's an industry. They don't give a crap about America. When they say party, it's not in a collective of ideals. It is a party to grift off of the American people, which had I won... It was like I told people, start the clock because things are going to get real within a matter of seconds. You know, and I mean, you you saw Chris and Chris, you know, you're both you're both veterans, Chris, a Marine and you have, you know, a ranger. And I'm not a ranger. I'm sorry. And from in the army, it's like it's like, you know, you guys you guys sit there and you you watch this in action and you watched how the establishment treated personally me. I mean, you were on the ground and watched how this worked. I mean, they were trying to get me in and out and in and out. And I'm like, that's not how this is supposed to work. You're supposed to be able to sit there and I'd stay until they close the doors on us, talking to people and, you know, being friends first. I mean, we have to do this as friends, neighbors, family, as one nation under God, not as this, this contrived celebrity status of politicians. This is crap. Right. So, I don't know. It's very, very interesting at any rate. So, well, we got off track massively here, but that's okay. That's what we do. What's your opinion? Let me bring up the flyers. I did post it this morning on my Telegram, but I didn't put any explanations underneath it of what, let's see if I can get to it. what we're looking at here. Oh, happy Cinco de Mayo, by the way. This is, this is like, like, uh, St. Patrick's day. I'm part Irish. Today we're all Spanish. You see the one yesterday where I said, may the force be with you. Yeah. Or maybe may the force be with you. I think that's fun. I mean, if everybody can be Irish on St. Patrick's Day, guess what? We can all be Mexican on Cinco de Mayo. So we'll celebrate. So hang on a minute. And here we go. All right. So let's talk about this a little bit. Okay. Okay. So what it is, is it's second Saturday in May. And the last Saturday, what we did is we handed out these flyers. And it's not just Michigan. It's all over all the states. So it's all the NALC in all the different states. All the carriers will walk around every box and put one of these in their mailbox. What we want you to do is put at least one can of food or however much you want to put. You can put it next to your mailbox or on the porch. We have the carriers that will walk around and pick up the food. We also have people that were, let's say they didn't work that day or they had their family members that would come out and help. And they pick up the food and they leave a thank you card. And then they'll take that to the food depot in your area. So this is going to help a lot of families that, you know, are less fortunate or they're down on their luck, you know. and you're you're helping humanity you know you're you're helping your fellow men you know so feeding america has been around probably since the sixties the letter carriers started with a pilot program in the in ten cities in october nineteen ninety one it was so successful that they started the national nationwide the nalc food drive started may they had branches that were doing it and they collected over million pounds of food for the food drive for the food banks Now it's called the stamp out of hunger is what we call it. Every year around the first of May, the post office sends out these cards that give direct direction on what people are to do. Put the food out by their mailboxes or by the porches. The second Saturday in May is the carriers are off and the carriers that are off or family members will come pick up the food and then they take it directly to the food bank, like I said. And it's all the food banks in all your different areas, you know, they take all that food and they line it all up and everything and they get it stored up for people that come around and need food. Is there a list of all the food banks in Michigan that you know of? That I don't know. I don't know. I know we have, in Port Huron here, we have a food bank in Port Huron, and then we also have one in Marysville. So our post office, we work with Port Huron, Fort Gratiot, and Marysville. So what we do is they take it right to the food drives and the food banks, and then it gets dispersed there. And then they pick up the food and they leave that thank you card for it, you know. And it's, like I said before, it's to help out your fellow man, you know. And one thing you got to understand is that being hungry is is everywhere you know it's it's not it's it's it's not just around our country you know our country it's it's all countries so what we're trying to do is try to you know help out everybody as much as we can the thing about hunger is um it doesn't discriminate you know hunger doesn't discriminate it doesn't care if you're what color you are it doesn't care what religion you are it doesn't even care what politics you have You know, it attacks everybody. You know what I'm saying? There's no discrimination on that. That's awesome. How much food do you normally collect in your area? I think last year, I think Tara said that there was, not my Tara, but Tara at work, she kind of like heads this up. I think she said there was a twenty three thousand pounds, if I'm not mistaken. You know, so that's quite a bit of food, you know, but I'm trying to get this out awareness to to all people, because like I said before, you know, it's to help everybody. You know, it's not it's you know, and you get these people that, you know, they're naysayers about the carriers, you know, that, you know, The mail carriers, they don't like the mail carriers. They don't like the post office or whatever. You got to understand about us carriers. We're out there every day. We were out there during the pandemic. We were out there during the rain, snow. know and we're delivering your mail whether whether you like us or not we're we're delivering your mail through everything you know even nine eleven we were still out delivering mail you know what i mean so you know you you people talk about the first responders we know about we know more about your neighborhood than you know about your neighborhood we're almost like a neighborhood watch for you If it's a real, you know, a real carrier that's been on that route for a long time, we know a lot about that area, you know. So we're helping you. And all we're asking is you help your fellow man, you know, give some food. If you can afford it, give some food so you can get it put up to that food bank, you know. And another thing is, you know, If you don't like that, well, Yeshua said, if you don't feed me, I don't know you. You know, therefore, he's the one that said that, not me. You know, so it's even in the Bible. I'm just paraphrasing, but, you know, he said, you know, if you're not going to feed your fellow man, then I don't even know you, you know. So... Well, it sounds like a really great effort, and I just applaud you guys for doing this. I mean, there's so much need right now. I happen to know a gal who's getting out of a very abusive relationship, and she's got a four-year-old daughter, no place to live, no car, and they're struggling. And people won't tell you that they are. They will not tell you because they're embarrassed to say. Right. That, you know, they're not the ones that are the first in line saying, gimme, gimme, gimme. You know, they're sitting back going, I don't want to get in the way and I don't want to say anything. And I'm embarrassed because I'm in a situation. If you don't reach out to people and know who your neighbors are, you're never going to know who's truly in need. Yep. So, yeah. It's a great mechanism for the postal service, you know, the postal workers to keep an eye on things and just kind of, you know. be able to know who needs help. Me personally, I would like to see maybe even, you know, the commander in chief make a executive order or a, uh, special announcement on the second day of May being, you know, food drive for everybody. You know what I mean? That'd be pretty cool because it would make it, it would make it more, uh, more, um, I don't want to say more. No. Yeah. You know, and people would be more apt to, to do it because it's like, Oh wow. You know, but it's, it's just something that you guys, people need to do because it's, it's, you're, you're helping your fellow man. You know, everybody's all about the humanity and stuff. This is a big one because hunger has been around a long time, you know, and all we're doing, all we're doing is asking you to just, uh, give a few cans of food and we'll take care of the rest. You just put it on your porch. You don't even have to take it down there. We'll do it for you. Do you know what the best food that gets taken most often is? Have you ever looked into that? I've seen a lot of boxes of food, like the macaroni and cheese, the old Kraft macaroni and cheese. I've seen a bunch of that in my area. I've seen soups. You know, like Campbell soups and stuff like that. Seen that. But, yeah, I've seen, you know, they give vegetables, they give like rice and stuff that's in a box or, you know, instant potatoes, you know. just whatever, whatever they can give, you know, and the, uh, when you take it to the, um, depot, they have like racks and they stack everything up. So it's all like, kind of like, like a grocery store type setup. I used to work with the young Marines of Port Huron back in the day. And I would take my young Marines with me when I would, I'd had that day off and we would, uh, I'd have like four young Marines down at the food depot, and they would be helping sort things out. And then I'd take the other ones, and we would drive around all the different routes. And they'd have like handfuls of cards, thank you cards. And they'd run up and grab one, and they'd run over there. They're all motivated, you know, young Marines. It's a good thing. deal to be into. That's a lost art, the art of being grateful and thank you cards and such, expressing that. Roger that. Yeah, that's a really nice touch. Yep. Is there anything else you want to talk about today, Robert? No, I think that's pretty good. Okay, so then we'll just tell everybody, pass this along to your friends and family in your area. You can go to my Telegram channel. I've got both sides of the card posted there. I posted it last night, I think probably in the middle of the night because I was up most of the night last night again. And so you can print this off. You can pass it around to your neighbors to help these guys get the word out there. And let's participate in it this weekend on Saturday. Put a can by your mailbox and let's feed America here. Roger that. So awesome. Would you like to pray today or you want me to pray? We always end with a prayer. Yeah, go ahead. You can. Dear Heavenly Father, thank you so much for John, Mike, and Robert and all the wonderful people that are giving their time, their treasure, and their sacred honor to stand for this nation. in every way possible. It's amazing how many different ways and the talents that you've given people and the ways in which they use those to benefit each other. We thank you so much for teaching us to be like you, givers, not takers, in service, not expecting anything back. And unconditional, especially in the realm of accepting each other, love, and realizing that we're walking through this earth that's kind of a mess right now together. And we need to help each other through slogging through the bad stuff here so that as we continue to walk, we draw closer to you. We thank you so much for the process. You're growing us up. You're teaching us. We're getting new skills and knowledge that we would have never gotten had we not had to wade through the junk here. And we're thankful for that, the good and the bad. And you all use all of it for good to those who love you. And we thank you for that. Please motivate more people. Get them in trusting that you're talking to them, that you're leading them, that we put our trust in you every step of the way. We trust you. We want to be with you. We want a relationship with you. We don't want to just kind of know about you. We want to actually hear from you and have a relationship with you every step of the way. Give us discernment and wisdom to apply that as we go forward into the future. Always with all praise and glory and honor going to you for all things. We love you so very much. We want to let you know we love you today. I can't even imagine all you've endured for us. It's amazing. I can't. It is unfathomable. And we just want to thank you. In the name of Jesus Christ, we pray. Amen. All right, boys and girls, this is where we go to that part of the show, where we go to, this is my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, There are some short and quick ways to fix what's wrong here in the United States. That's the truth. And so I think that we're moving in that direction. Hold the line. Trust God that he is leading us out of this captivity, just like he did. The Israelites out of Egypt. Okay. And I'm not talking like the synagogue of Satan people. I'm talking about the spiritual family of God. It's the same thing. It's never changed. Okay. Abraham, he was saved by faith. It's the same thing that we have now. And that was before Jesus was on the earth. It's always been the same. It's faith, our faith in God, faith in his salvation, in his son, the savior that he was going to send and the savior he's already sent. It's already been completed. When Jesus said it is finished, he wasn't just kidding, okay? It is finished. All you got to do is turn to God and ask him for wisdom. uh discernment salvation take his gift and just say you know what i can't do this anymore i've screwed up everything and it's okay to say that we all have okay and now i want to walk on your path i want to I want to let you lead me. I want to accept your salvation. And let's start over again here and be white as snow, your sins, everything forgiven, and he will take you as you are. And even in our imperfections, we're all imperfect, not going to go away, but he's going to forgive us and pick us up as we go and say, you got this. We're going to do this again. And we're going to do this over again until we learn the lessons. And that's just the way it is. it's all good guys so well thanks for being on robert stay on the line here a minute um we will uh oh mega punch is here so this is another very good friend of mine so ryan so at any rate um you guys have a great day today i'm going to be on tomorrow with a candidate that i find is extraordinary his name is billy christians and he's from florida and he is a a uh intelligence officer He was an intelligence officer. Him and the guy who works with John, they both have a combined forty seven years in intelligence and know what's going on. It's going to be really interesting at nine o'clock. And then at ten o'clock, there's another guy coming on named John. And John is a. student of the markets, as well as being able to merge it with what President Trump is fully engaged in right now. These guys, I love these guys. They are absolutely brilliant and if you want to know what's going on i suggest you tune in tomorrow because they are unwavering patriots they have literally put everything on the line for standing for what's right and you need to hear what they're saying because they're not in it for money they're in it for like like robert and i are they're in it for justice they're in it for truth And they're in it for writing this nation. So anyhow, tune in tomorrow. And I think it's going to be really interesting. And then Thursday, I have some connections to the John Birch Society, Matthew Rhodes. And they're going to be talking about Thursday. They're going to be talking about the blockchain and putting everything in the government on the blockchain. That ends the FOIA problem right there. And so there are things happening. You just have to... Look a little bit and listen to the people that are not making money off of this, but that are actually working behind the scenes. And I think you're going to be finding both of these days incredibly engaging and might answer a lot of questions that you have of what's really happening. Not political crap. This is actual stuff. So anyhow, have a great day today. God bless you all. God bless all those whom you love and God bless America. Put a smile on your face, make it be so. It's up to you and me to change this world every, every day, every minute, how we react or don't react and respond and how we're doing the work, not just being opinion lovings. So let's, let's, let's do it. So stand in line, Robert, I'm going to end the broadcast and God bless you guys all. See you tomorrow. It's mandatory attendance. Not really, but it's fun.