Published May 7, 2026, 9:01 a.m.
9am Eric Tilton - Cognitive Carbon. We will be discussing block chain technology as it relates to how elections could be secured. 10am Justin Harvey, Michael Stansfield, Daniel Durantes. Civic-chain block chain procurement platform where money moves fast, and everyone can watch. Applied to government functions it would allow complete transparency and instant access for oversight and accountability. X/Twitter: https://x.com/i/broadcasts/1nxeLyOEwzQJX Rumble: https://rumble.com/v79ipg0-bnn-brandenburg-news-network-572026-block-chain-elections-and-government-ma.html https://rumble.com/v79irhs-bnn-brandenburg-news-network-572026-block-chain-elections-and-government-ma.html Odysee: https://odysee.com/@BrandenburgNewsNetwork:d/bnn-2026-05-07-blockchain-elections-and-government-management:1 BNN Live: https://Live.BrandenburgNewsNetwork.com Guests: Donna Brandenburg, Eric Tilton, Justin Harvey, Michael Stansfield, Daniel Durantes
good morning and welcome to brandenburg news network i am donna brandenburg and it's the seventh it's the seventh day of may twenty twenty six and welcome to the show today today we have um it's all gonna be all about blockchain today so excuse me today we're gonna be talking about blockchain first guest is at nine o'clock with eric tilton cognitive carbon and we'll be talking about all sorts of things especially blockchain in our elections and voting, as well as some pretty shocking news that has been kind of discovered or found from two thousand nineteen regarding the Vax and so and the virus and that sort of thing. And then after that, at ten o'clock, we will be having on civic chain, which is all about introducing blockchain methods, the blockchain into our our government government, how to have complete transparency, how to have things work with without, say, maybe FOIA reforming the whole FOIA process and having everything right out there so that it's at our fingertips. This has to happen. The way it's working right now is broken. So we need to explore all of these, all of these other methods out there that we have at our fingertips. Anyhow, morning, Eric, how you doing? Awesome. Glad you could come on this morning. So just so everybody knows, Eric and I are friends. Okay. And last night we went and we started our hives up again. So we went and got bees last night and it's a great adventure learning how to do new skills and such. But anyhow, Eric is an entomologist among other things that he does. And so we've got an interest in this and had fun getting our bees set up for the season. So I should probably qualify a little bit. Entomologist by accident is probably the better way to say it. I ran a company in between twenty seventeen and twenty twenty that was raising black soldier flies from almond hull waste. And in the process of that, I became something of an expert at rearing the larvae for that particular insect at a commercial scale. So that's my that's my entomologist background. There you go. Well, it works. And, you know, so anyhow, that's, so where are we going to go this morning? We're going to talk about, about, you know, blockchain and, and some other things that you brought to the table this morning that you've unearthed. Yeah. Well, we're going to talk about the use of blockchain in voting. And then later you're going to hear about blockchain in, other aspects of government. But to kind of start off this, we're going to come at it from a completely different direction. And we're going to talk about this post that showed up on X and talk about how to think about things like this and how blockchain can help in that regard as well. So if you have that screenshot, you want to put it up for a few minutes, we can start with that. Here we go. So last week, I saw someone post this screenshot on X. And this green background is what you would see if you went to a place called Forchan. And Forchan is an anonymous message board. Some of you know that the Q phenomenon started on four-chan and then it moved to eight-chan and then later to eight-kun. And these message boards are a place for people to anonymously share stuff, images, text, and what have you. Sometimes they're used as a secret Dropbox where somebody will release something to the public anonymously that they think the public should know. And that's good and bad. Part of the bad part is you don't really know who's behind it. And so you don't know whether to trust what you see or not. And that is the case here. This post says, and if we are to believe the dates, it says that in September of twenty nineteen, someone claimed that nine to ten million Americans would be killed in twenty twenty and twenty twenty one in some kind of major event. And the person says, don't ask me how I know this. And there's some back and forth with other people. And then it says, do not accept any vaccines that will be released for a deadly virus in the winter of twenty twenty. Right. And then they go on to say that the the threat and the vaccine will originate from a pharmaceutical company working with military operations in a West Coast state. It will be accurately planted, which is oddly worded, in major cities and will cause flu-like symptoms, misspelled the word flu, and may be deadly to elders and babies, but the media reported is deadly to everyone. But it's a hoax. The vaccine will be the real killer packed with copious amounts of toxic metals. So that's the claim, right? So it's worrisome. The question that should come to mind when you see something like this is, all right, how do I know if this was posted in twenty twenty six that this text was actually on for Chan in twenty nineteen? Because that at least gives you some handle on whether it's credible or not. Right. I'm a database guy. I do this all day for a living. And I know that's very easy to change the timestamps that show up on message boards. If I have access to the server that this is posted on, in fact, I could make my own server that looks like this, and I could tell you that it's from Fortran, but how do I know that's where it actually was? You have no way to know that's a legitimate Fortran post, and you also don't know that even if it was, that it was posted in September of twenty nineteen. If you could prove both of those things, now you've got something interesting, right, because that post then would be time stamped and you'd know hey this really was on fourchan and it really was posted in september of twenty nineteen and now we can have some discussions about whether whether this person knew something that was going to happen or not unless you know both of those facts though it's interesting but you got to be a little bit cautious right You shouldn't jump in and believe it fully because you don't have those bits of evidence. So what could we do with information in textual form, documents, web pages, and what have you, photographs, to at least timestamp them? Guarantee that those things were created when they appear to have been created. One answer that's familiar to anons like us is you could use the Internet Archive. You could go to a web page and you could grab the URL and you could go to the Internet Archive and save that thing. And that's useful because it says that at the time you made the archive, this thing existed. You saved what the web page looked like at the time you saw it. um i don't know whether there is an internet archive version of this post the reason i don't know that is the person didn't share the url on fourchan if they had we could go look up to see if somebody saved it and that's interesting right because that again would tell us that at least this thing existed when they said it existed because the date on the internet archive would tell us that But what else could we do? Well, there's a service. And this, again, surfaced last week on X. I didn't actually know this particular thing existed. I wanted something like it to exist. And we'll get into why here later. But there's something called OpenTimestamps.com or .org. And OpenTimestamps allows you to basically drop a file, an image, text, whatever you've got. drop it onto a webpage, and it assigns a timestamp of when you put it on that website, the Open Timestamps website, and it writes that to the blockchain, in this case, Bitcoin. And this service doesn't cost you anything. And it piggybacks on top of other transactions that are occurring on Bitcoin at that time. And all it says is that a hash, and I'll talk about what a hash is later, but a hash was timestamped at this particular date and time. And the fact of that was written to the blockchain, to the Bitcoin blockchain. that gives you a way to prove um that a thing existed at a particular point in time and the reason is the the bitcoin blockchain um is an immutable ledger and we'll talk a little bit more about what a ledger is but it's a place to record transactions and you can't change those transactions after the fact that's what immutable means And it's that property of Bitcoin that makes it useful for money. If you can record a transaction, a transfer of digital wealth from one person to another, and you can do it in a way that's private but publicly verifiable, and it can't be changed after the fact, you have a legitimate money transaction, right? You can't. spend money and then blow it back somehow. You can't double spend money. That's another property of blockchain that we'll talk about later is double spend protection. You can't spend the same money twice. because Bitcoin's structure doesn't allow that. And it also doesn't allow you to change history. Once you spend it, it's spent. So going back to this example, once you obtain a timestamp for a document and save it to the Bitcoin blockchain, you can't change it. You can't go back and erase history. And that's a very useful property, which will be discussed later on when you talk about blockchain and government. That's one of the properties you want is you can't change this document after the fact, right? You can't erase it either. That's another interesting thing about blockchain and Bitcoin is when you do this, you can't go back and make that thing disappear. And we all know that governments and corrupt politicians love to be able to make things disappear. I mean, that's why we have FOIA, but they've found ways around FOIA. You know, you'll hear stories that there was recently a story where Dr. Fauci's own contacts There's a text message or an email that said, I recently learned how to evade FOIA, right? You don't want to hear that in the inner circle of Dr. Fauci or people like him, that they figured out a way to defeat FOIA because the whole purpose of FOIA is to make sure the public knows what government's doing. So let me just drop a marker here and say that with Open Timestamp, we have a tool that allows us to establish the time at which a document existed. Now, we don't know if it existed before that time, but we can say that at the time the timestamp was created, the document existed at that time. And, and therefore anytime later we can say, well, it at least existed then because there's a record on the blockchain that it existed then. So now let's talk about hashing. Um, the hash is the result of a mathematical operation involving cryptographic methods that guarantees the contents are not changed. If you can think of it as a signature. So if I have a document like this. For Chan thing here. I can run this hashing algorithm and I can guarantee that if you see it later and I give you the hash, you can guarantee that it isn't changed between the time. I created a hash and the time you saw the document. We use these properties of cryptographic hashes in things like DocuSign and signed PDFs and digital signatures. The way they work is if you were to go and change even one pixel on this image or one word in a PDF, the hash would change. you wouldn't be able to modify that document and do it in a way that you couldn't detect later, right? So a hash is a way to digitally sign something. And it's that hash that you're storing on the blockchain. You're not actually storing this four-chan screenshot on the blockchain. You're storing a hash of it. You're storing a digital signature of it at a particular date and time. So to just reiterate a little bit, open timestamps and blockchain gives you a way to store the hash, the digital signature of any document you want, no matter how long it is or what content it is on the blockchain. You're not storing the document, you're storing the hash, right? So I could digitally sign this broadcast. and I could drop that hash on the blockchain, and then you could say in the future, this broadcast on BNN was created here that had this topic, and you could prove to yourself that it wasn't altered after the fact, right? So... I think we both have something going on in our throats here from the bees last night, because I got up and I was doing the same thing. Yeah. I'm going to take a couple sips of tea now and then. Yeah, no worries. You know, I just realized I want to let everybody know for some reason, Brandenburg news, um, the, the stream on Brandenburg for governor is not working right now. So I'm setting up a new, I'm setting up a new stream right now and hopefully we can get this thing up and running over there. Thanks for letting me know guys that it wasn't working. And so we're, uh, uh, Let's see. Yeah, we're, we're having trouble streaming all of it to having trouble streaming all of it to to rumble today. And I don't know why. So we'll give it give it a shot here. Okay. Gonna gonna keep gonna keep going. But just keep going. And I'm going to try to add this. That's why I'm looking off to the side. That's why. all right so and and i'll backfill a little bit as we go on um so with this thing on the screen i want to just leave it here this is troublesome if it's true right that's the question though if it's true and then the question is if it was created when it appears to have been created if we believe that if we believe this actually appeared on fourchan unaltered on that time then it's bothersome right there are some things about it that i don't like and among those is this the wording the fact that um military ops has an apostrophe which is odd the fact that it says flu with an e is odd The fact that it uses the word elders is odd, right? The fact that it says packed with copious amounts of toxic metals is odd. Those are language clues that the writer of this text isn't necessarily a native English or American English speaker or isn't particularly competent with language, right? Now, there is a flag on there which suggests the speaker was from another country, maybe, right? But still, I'm troubled because I know how easy it is to falsify things that look like this and make it appear like they occurred at that time, but they really weren't. So I'm going to put that off to the side because I don't know yet whether this thing is verifiable in terms of the timestamp. Rumble is down, by the way, everybody. So there's nothing I can do. We've lost them. So go ahead and tell your friends that either go to X, Brandenburg News Network is always the most reliable channel out there. But we've lost both of our Rumble channels right now. Well, maybe you can upload the recording later. We'll upload the recording later, but that's why nobody can see it. Yeah. Yeah. All right, so we can put this document away now that we've kind of discussed and discovered some properties that we would like to have. And now we know that the blockchain, at least in the form of Bitcoin, and there are other blockchains, but Bitcoin's blockchain has the property that you can store hashes on the chain at certain timestamps and they can't be erased. And it's this property of Bitcoin that allows it to be used as money. And again, the reason is I can't spend money, which means I can't transfer Bitcoin from my wallet to your wallet and then go back and unspend it or spend it again. because the record of that transaction has been committed to the Bitcoin blockchain and you can't erase it, right? That's why Bitcoin is a proxy for money and that's why we've been interested in it since its creation back in the day. So now let's talk about if you have something like this, and again, it's a public ledger, And we'll talk about what a ledger is here in a moment. But if you have a public ledger that you can guarantee cannot be falsified in the past and changed, could you use that in a voting system? And I'm going to explain to you how that could be done and how I would argue we should be doing voting. And I was talking about this idea as far back as, I don't know, Before, I had already written this PowerPoint about how to use blockchains for voting protection. But then afterwards, with all the fraud that surfaced and all that, people, rightfully so, said no more machines. And when they said that, they were talking about the Smartmatic and the Dominion and ES&S and all that stuff. And I fully agree. That kind of stuff used for voting is not legitimate. One of the reasons it's not legitimate is it isn't open source. And that means that the code behind it is not publicly visible, right? You don't get to go see how the software works that counts the votes and tabulates the votes and all that. And that's problematic, right? We should all at least agree that if there is going to be software involved in any part of voting, counting the votes, whatever, it should be publicly auditable. the software should. I should be able to guarantee that there's no hidden backdoor that somebody from Venezuela or Serbia or Cuba or wherever can use the Internet to get into the machine and either surveil or alter the outcome. I don't have that confidence with Dominion and Smartmatic and ESMS because first of all, I don't trust the people who run those companies, but second of all, I cannot see the software. And I'm a software guy, and I have confidence in my ability to go look at software and tell whether it has these flaws, these vulnerabilities. So we don't trust those machines, right? And Mike Lindell is famous for saying, you know, we should melt them all down and make prison bars for them, right? I agree. That's a valid statement to make. um but that doesn't mean that i've thrown out the idea of using technology to help with voting so i fully agree with the people who say it should be paper ballots all in one day right no contest um and we could just do hand counted ballots but here's the thing right people tend to stop their thinking after they say paper ballots hand counted, right? What's the next step? Somehow you have to communicate those counts to somebody. And those things have to get compiled and bundled up precinct by precinct, county by county, state by state. Are you telling me you don't think we're going to use technology? Are we going to write down our numbers and postal mail them in somewhere and you trust that? Right. Are they going to call on the phone and say, here's my results? I mean, that's how it was done decades ago. All right. But somewhere somebody is tallying all this stuff up. Right. Presumably also on paper so that you can audit it later. But the reality is in the chain, there's going to be some kind of technology involved in. communicating and then bundling up these count, right? Naively you could say somebody in the state office has got a spreadsheet and they're just typing in the numbers from the precincts and the counties as they roll in, right? All right. But it's in a spreadsheet, right? So it's difficult to conduct paper ballot voting at scale and not have some assistance from some kind of technology. Well, look at the other, there's a deficiency in that too, because you're relying on people to be honest. And what I saw like with the absentee votes and the absentee ballots and such, they were cheating all over the place with this. So, you know, it's a great idea, but you still have to have accountability somewhere. And all I keep hearing is a simplified version. Oh, we got to go back to paper ballots. It's like, that's great. But, you know, what how are you going to how are you going to oversee that? You know, what we need is not enough. Right. When they count them, it's not enough. It's more it has to be more complicated because there's so many people that are cheating and we haven't prosecuted or arrested the people that have already that are still out there that that committed the crime. So in in math and logic theory, we call this necessary but not sufficient conditions. So we can say that paper ballots are necessary, but not sufficient. That's not the only part of the answer. Perfect. Right. For the reasons you just said. So let's put that off to the side. Right. Paper ballots are good. They're necessary. They're not sufficient. And let's just now talk about this blockchain idea, which I kind of stopped talking about it after twenty twenty because I realized The winds have shifted and nobody wants to hear anything about machines and technology involved in voting. They're on board with this paper only. I get it. It's a lost conversation right now at this point in time, right? Since we progressed to twenty twenty six and for the reasons you just said, it's fair to question whether that's good enough. Right. That's necessary, but not sufficient. So I think people are coming around to the idea that, OK, paper ballots are good in certain ways and necessary in certain ways, but there's got to be more. So one of the flaws. in any voting system in paper ballots dominion what have you is the eligibility to vote the registration problem right we want to guarantee that let's just talk about the ideal properties of a voting system A vote should be cast by a legitimate voter, in our case, a US citizen, right? That's alive, right? That isn't in jail. They're not dead voters or gross voters or, you know. US citizens, they're not dead. They're not in jail. And they only vote once. And they only vote at the time and place that the law says it's supposed to happen, right? The U.S. Constitution says in its text that the government shall institute, the Congress shall institute the time and the place for the election to occur. And it says the day of the election. It actually says on election day. It leaves undefined certain specific mechanics about how, but it says that it shall occur on election day. and that Congress shall have the power to define this day, right? And it has, and that's what we've been operating with for, you know, a hundred years is the notion that there's an election day. Unspecified in the constitution is validating the eligibility of a voter to the degree that we have set, right? That they're a US citizen, that they're alive, that they're in the place that they're voting. That doesn't matter for national elections, but it does matter for local elections, right? If you're going to elect your, representative or your senator, your vote should be localized to your, you know, your county, your precinct and your state. I shouldn't get to vote on the senator from Arizona if I don't live there. I shouldn't get to vote on the House member for my my district if I don't live there. Right. So we have to have a method in any voting system of validating that the person is alive a citizen in the place that they're voting at the time you know another problem we have is somebody is that was in the district for california six or what have you and then they moved to california twelve and they cast a vote for california six even though they weren't there anymore or they moved out of state they you know they're in missouri and they voted in the california elections we have to have protections against that sort of thing so that's a problem right comes back to registration comes back to clean voter rolls and all that so regardless of whether you use blockchain machines paper ballots or what have you you have to have clean voter rolls and you have to have a valid registration process And that brings us to the SAVE Act that's in front of the Senate right now, right? And that act, among other things, says that to vote, you have to be a US citizen. And I'm all for that. And I'm annoyed as all hell that our Senate is blocking a measure that has the support of eighty six percent of the US population. Democrats and Republicans alike want to have a revision in this method of voting that says you have to be a citizen and you have to provide ID at the time of voting. What's outrageous, of course, is that in California, if you attempt to provide ID at the point of voting, they say you're guilty of a crime. They've written California statutes that outlaw the display of voter ID or the requesting of it in a place of voting, which is just outrageous. It's obvious that the intent there is fraud. Why would you prevent people from asking for or displaying voter ID if not for allowing fraud to take place? So let's circle back now and talk about how Bitcoin blockchain might help this process. And I'm going to describe the ideal voting system, at least the way I see it. There should be some method to accurately register and validate voters in advance of the vote. There should be some extremely fast and accurate way to collect votes securely privately. Right. And count them at the precinct County and state and national level quickly in an auditable way in multiple paths at the same time. Right. And there should be a way to verify that the person who voted only voted once and only voted at the time and place that they're permitted to vote, right? They cast their one and only vote in California six at a date and a time when they were registered for California six. So how could you do that with a blockchain? Well, Let's assume that there is an organization or more than one organization that's responsible for accurately registering voters to vote. And we'll set aside for a moment how that happens, but let's just presume there is a trustworthy voter registration mechanism in place. At the time that that voter is registered for the upcoming vote, let's say the. Twenty twenty six midterms, they get a token, a coin, right? A thing. And that thing says person that holds this token is legitimately registered to vote for the twenty twenty six midterms. Right. And let's just use the word coin as the thing that you get, right? when you go to vote you spend that coin you take your your bitcoin or whatever it is and you hand it in with your ballot right and the receiving entity basically caches your coin marks it as spent and accepts your ballot right now you can't vote twice because you don't have any more coins you only got one And you can't use a coin from last election because the coin you were given is only valid for twenty twenty six midterms. Right. So once you've spent it, it's gone. You don't get to save it for the future. Squirrel it away and use it in twenty twenty eight midterms was only valid for this term. And you spent it and you voted. And that's that. Right. So how you voted, what check marks you put on your ballot, right, should be private up until the time the votes counted. But it should still be private in the sense that your identity isn't revealed during the count. Right. Nobody should know that Donna voted for this candidate. All they should know is a legitimate vote was cast for this candidate. Right. You should. And this is another interesting thing. We talk about voter verification so that a person can verify their own, that they actually counted the way they wanted it to. Right. I think I understand that. There's a difference between authentication and validation or identification. Let's just distinguish identification from authentication. Authentication means there's some mechanism to prove the person is legit. They are a legitimate voter. Identification means I can also say it was Donna Brandenburg. It isn't necessary for there to be a valid vote, for there to be identification. There just needs to be authentication. I need to be certain a vote was cast by a valid voter in this precinct for this candidate. Right? Yeah. That takes me back to the eight-kun, four-chan, Q thing for a moment. I've tried to explain this to people. Why did Q use eight-chan and eight-kun back in those days with a so-called trip code? What does that mean? What was that for? It was a digital signature. It was a way to validate whoever this person or persons are that are posting this queue content. It's the same person over time. They signed their posts. They didn't just write on their queue. Anybody could put that on their post. They used a trip code, which is a digital signature, which is a way to authenticate that those posts came from the same person, right? So there's an example of authentication versus identification. I don't know who Q is, but I know that whoever wrote this post is the same one that wrote that post because they were both digitally signed by this method, right? And we can get into arguments and people have about whether the trip codes on aid can were sufficiently hardened to be an unfakeable, right? We can have that discussion. And they were good. They weren't perfect. There are certain ways that they could have been altered. You have to, for instance, trust the people running those servers. But again, it was open source software. So you can make a counterpoint that it was secure because the method of which these things are generated were open source that too is in debate so i'm not going to go down the rabbit hole of you know validating that but i'm just using that as an example how to digitally sign content and how to distinguish authentication from identification So for voting, I want to know it was a valid, registered, permitted voter. They cast a vote and here's the here's the vote that they cast. Right. What's interesting is that in some states, your history of votes, who you voted for, whether your vote was counted and who you voted for isn't transparent. And this was something that annoyed me about California is there was no way I could go and look back in history in the official records privately and see that I voted for this person and that person and this measure and blah, blah, blah. They didn't want you to see that. And until recently, they even didn't want you to know clearly whether or not your vote was counted. And they put in some mechanisms now which sort of try to reassure you that, yeah, your vote was counted, but I don't know that they're trustworthy. But that's problematic. I, as a voter, should be able to go to some system and see my vote and that it was counted. I don't want anybody else to see that. But I want to be reassured that Eric's vote was counted and here's how he voted. I don't want to notice, for instance, that in the official records, it says I voted for Joe Biden when I know I didn't. Right. I should be able to reassure myself that the official record for me says I voted for Trump on this date and time. Right. And it wasn't switched and it was counted. And unfortunately, the voting systems we have today by and large don't allow you to do that. You might keep a little stub in your wallet that says that you voted, but unless you photocopy your ballot, you don't remember how you voted. And you sure as hell don't know that what you marked on your ballot is what was counted for you at the precinct. Therein lies the problem that we've been wrestling with since forever, but became aware of in twenty twenty. The populace does not have confidence that the vote they cast is the vote that was counted. Right, that fundamentally is the problem. So imagine that I cast my ballot, make my choices, mark my choices on that voting sheet, and imagine that that gets hashed in the way we talked about before. A digital signature is formed that says on this date and time in this place, Eric Tilton, a valid registered voter for the twenty. Twenty six midterms cast this ballot. I hash that make a digital signature and I put that on the blockchain. Right. now you can't erase history you can't go back and cancel my vote you can't alter it you can't say that i voted for joe biden and instead of trump right it's cast in stone and it's time stamped right now what you would like to have possible is that anybody anywhere can audit the vote They can't go and see that it was me, but they can go and look at the blockchain and they can see that at that date and time, a vote was cast in this precinct in this way for these results, right? Unarguably and alterably was cast. That property would mean that anybody could count the vote anywhere, right? You're not relying on NBC's voting night, blah, blah, blah. You're not relying on the local office in your city government or county or precinct to do the tallying of the votes. Anybody can tally the votes. Not only that, I can compare your tally. So if you total them up and you say there were sixteen thousand votes for Donna Brandenburg in this precinct, and I tally them up and I get a different answer, we all can have a conversation about why that is. Because the data is not alterable. It's on a public ledger and it can't be changed. So how'd you get a different number than I got? Right? That is accountability. I don't want to trust what ABC tells me was the result of the Arizona election at nine p.m. on twenty twenty because they lie. Or they make mistakes if we want to be generous. No, we're not going to be generous. They're lying and they're manipulating it. And there's no pass here that, oh, sorry, oops, I didn't mean to. They know damn well what they're doing. So I say those uncomfortable truths that everybody else is trying to be kind about. Not going there with them because they are cheating. They have cheated in so many different ways that it's time to call a spade a spade. I'm sorry. You're a very nice person. I'm not always that nice. So it's possible to create a voting system using blockchain that has those properties, right? And, um, what I write about, I have a, I have a PowerPoint presentation that has a bunch of pages and I'll just, well, I can't even show it cause it doesn't show up. But anyway, I have all the technical details for people who care about technical details. And it describes the properties of the voting system. And even if you, even if you set aside blockchain, Bitcoin, whatever you, we can all agree that a voting system that did this is desirable, right? If, if it's, if, if it's possible to guarantee valid citizen voters, voter ID, If it's possible to keep it private while making the count public, if it's possible to make it possible for anyone anywhere to double check the counts independently of each other, if it's possible to ensure that votes cannot be changed after the fact, those are all properties of a voting system that we would agree is a good thing, right? And then we can all also agree that the current systems we use do not have that property. And that's the issue, right? So let's talk about the day of the election, right? People have seen my presentation and heard me talk about it. And they say, well, well, well, OK, that's all well and good. But are you telling me that some grandma has to somehow know blockchain technology to cast her vote on the day of the election? And how's that all going to work? And the answer is, you can do it multiple ways. You could do this in the precinct the way we do it today. And when you turn your paper ballot in, it gets scanned and hashed and put onto the blockchain at that point in time. And the person who's voting is going to exchange something at the time they turn their ballot in. And that's that token or their coin as they spend it. But it could be a piece of paper with a QR code on it, for all that matters, that they put in with their ballot. Right. And the lady in the precinct office at the time of scanning the ballot scans a QR code and that causes it to go onto the blockchain and be spent. Right. Same result could also be done on a phone. You could vote on your cell phone. Right. And people are going to say, oh my gosh, that's not secure, blah, blah, blah. And my answer to that is I actually don't care what software you use or on what kind of computer, as long as it gets onto the blockchain in the valid format. right the result is what matters the method that i got there is not what matters because i can go after afterwards and validate that the structure of the record committed to the blockchain is valid right i can do that and so it kind of lessens the importance of what software you use to cast your vote on the blockchain it kind of doesn't matter right it should all still be open source for reasons we talked about before i want anyone anywhere to reassure themselves that the software used is trustworthy right so all voting software should always be open source But you can also imagine a case where you would allow a vote to be cast in advance of the actual vote and locked up in a safe, where nobody can see it until the day and the time of the election. Then the safe is opened and anybody can go and count the votes in the safe at that time. Right. And I call that the embargo technique. So the idea is that you can cast a vote, spend your token. You can validate that a voter from some precinct voted. You can't see who or how they voted until the day and the time of the election. And at that point in time, an embargo key is distributed publicly and it says, here's the keys to the safe. You can open it now and count the ballots. right and in that way you could vote in advance of the actual day of the election you could say you know for the week up to and including the election you can write stuff for the blockchain and it will be counted as a vote on the election day that's fine right it's the same thing as you marking your ballot and sticking in your back pocket until you go to the a precinct and you turn it in, right? Same thing. You voted already a week ago or two weeks ago and you marked it and you signed it and bought and you sealed it in your envelope. You just went to the precinct and dropped your envelope in the box on election day and it was opened and counted on election day. Same thing, right? This is just the digital equivalent of that. So there's a concept here called vote embargoing, which just means keeping them locked up until the prescribed day and time of the election. But I would love it if instead of ABC and NBC and CNN and blah, blah, blah, making a big spectacle of counting the votes, right, and miscounting them and changing them and making the count go backwards, which we saw happen, even happened in Virginia during this latest, you know, vote where they were talking about the, what is it, the redistricting proposal, right? People were watching the counts come in and they saw numbers go backwards. That should never happen ever, ever, ever. Right? If you're counting votes, it should never decrease. If it does, throw the whole vote out at that point in time because that's not legit. There's no excuse for that. Blockchain voting would eliminate that. It would make it possible for ten thousand people independently count the vote and compare results. Fully transparent, fully auditable, unalterable in the public domain. the act of counting votes is now a public thing not a government thing not a private thing not a television station thing the public counts the vote that's the only way to hold a legitimate election in my opinion and blockchain is a way to do that well it's amazing it's amazing all of the uh the opportunities we have to change things up and have security. It's a matter of stopping the politicians and the people that are trying to protect the power and the money right now, which is, Absolutely going on everywhere. There's no reason with the technology that we have that we can't have honest elections. I mean, look at your bank statements. The banks don't really make mistakes, okay? I had an aunt that even years ago, she said, she was very well educated, okay? She was very well educated. And she said, I don't even look or question my statement because the bank never makes a mistake. Now, I don't necessarily agree with that because I think you need to have some oversight to things. But her point, well taken, is that if we've got the ability to manage retirement accounts, they have the ability to manage mortgages, mortgage payments, and our bank accounts and that sort of thing. How is it that they are so freaking incompetent when it comes to our elections? How come? They're not treating the elections and ballots like currency, which you just laid out. That's something I've been saying for a long time. It needs to be treated like currency because then if somebody fakes it, they're under accountability laws that are absolutely slam dunk. You're done. Think about it when people counterfeit. Let me just interject, right? Why are we not just absolutely furious about the fact that they're literally counterfeiting ballots? Right. Why can you go to jail for counterfeiting a five-dollar bill, but you can't go to jail for counterfeiting a ballot, right? Right. And who comes into play if you counterfeit a five-dollar bill? The Secret Service does, because that's their role is protecting against counterfeiting. People don't know that, right? Ponzi schemes are investigated by the Secret Service. Bank fraud is investigated by the Secret Service. Voting fraud should be investigated by the Secret Service, right? And it should have the penalties of counterfeiting and more, because if we don't have a vote, we don't have a country. If we don't have an honest, our voices being heard right now, we don't have anything. We are literally at their mercy and they enslave us and they've been doing it for years. I mean, look at, look at what's happening in our townships and counties. We're going to be talking about this more later, but, but it is, it is on, it's inexcusable. What has happened in my opinion, it is inexcusable. I don't have a, problem if my vote is canceled out by someone from an opposing party that's that's the indefinite process right if i had complete confidence one hundred percent confidence in transparency invalid validation and validity that the vote count came out one way or another and it was one vote against me I would accept that if I had a hundred percent confidence in the method and I have zero percent confidence in the method because I know how it works. Um, I, you know, for those who don't know my background, in um... twenty twenty twenty twenty one i was taking part in the true the vote stuff with greg phillips and catherine engelbrecht and you may have opinions about those folks you know nowadays that very that's all right but they were legitimately trying to do something to true the vote And I helped, for instance, find and get the evidence against the guy who did the conic company fraud. Right. This was a Chinese immigrant who lived in Grand Rapids, Michigan, of all places. I'm telling you guys, Grand Rapids in Michigan is the head of the snake. Yeah, no two ways. He ran Connick Inc in Grand Rapids and his company made software used in various ways, pull books and stuff in multiple states. And in twenty twenty one, it was discovered that the identity, the personally identifiable, identifiable information, names, addresses, phone numbers, social security numbers, whatnot of one point eight million poll workers, U.S. poll workers was discovered sitting open on a server in China. Right. And you can imagine all sorts of things that the Chinese could have done to weaponize that information in various ways. Didn't they have like didn't they have like, say, family information, social security number? You know, it was a complete identity theft package that they could have got that they had a hold of. Is that correct? It was so-called PII. So it was information that you supplied at the time you registered to become a poll worker. And that's a payroll thing, right? You get paid to be a poll worker. So whatever information you would expect to give an employer was there, right? Bank account numbers, addresses, names, phone numbers, you know, all that stuff. And it spilled on a server in China. And because of the laws of China, anything on the internet in China is China's the ccp's property they can do with it as they please if it's on their network that's what their law says and so that information about one point eight million poll workers was left exposed and open on a server in china and became the property of china right we don't want a system of elections that has those kind of gaping holes And I was part of that research. I was the person who actually located the IP address that was involved in all this to Guangzhou, China in that year. I geolocated it. I figured out the probable reason. And that was that the guy that was running Connick, his name was Yu, had some students at ZJang University who were software. And he contracted with them. It made sense for me that that's what happened. The fact that it was spilled, the fact that our data was allowed to be transmitted there, that was That was flawed and bad and horrible. Why he used Chinese students to do that made sense to me. He was a graduate of Zhejiang University. He knew people, professors. So he's like, I need to do this software. I know there's some programmers over there I can get for cheap. And he did that right. Regardless of whether it's so horrible. And then he got then he got released. Right. And he was he was prosecuted supposedly by the D.A. of Los Angeles. Right. What was that guy's name? Started with a G. Garcetti. I don't remember. Anyway, it was a Democrat. I was like, OK, right. You know, they're just trying to wrap their arms around this case so they can dismiss it. That's what's going on there. You know, um, but I, I was part of that group. So I've been, you know, thinking about and talking to people about securing the vote for many, many years. And, um, and I was part of the research teams that found that, that connect thing. Right. so you know these ideas and i i did a there's a video i'll share with you donna later on i did a video it's on you my youtube channel i did it for catherine engelbrecht and i just showed her here's all the vulnerabilities in our current electronic voting systems Right. Here's how it works. And here's all the points of weakness where somebody could go and inject bad votes or, you know, surveil or screw things up. Right. Just purely from the systems architecture. Right. I didn't get into, you know, the dirty voter rolls and stolen ballots and counterfeit ballots. I didn't get into that. I just said, OK. that all aside at the time you're going to scan and tabulate and update counts here's how that system works and here's how it's vulnerable and so i'll share that youtube video but that was from back in um you know i've been in the i.t business for what, thirty years now. Forever. Forever. I built systems for three letter agencies. I'm an expert at, you know, IT architectures and networking, you know, the methods thereof. When when that event took place in Sioux City, you know, that that That's his name. Mike Lindell put on that big event. My friend Brian Cates was preparing to go and participate in that. And for six weeks before he left to go attend that, I educated him on how packet capture works. What is this thing that Mike Lindell says he has? He's got these PCAPs. What's a PCAP? So I explained to Brian, this is what a PCAP is. Here's how you collect it. Here's what you could do with it. I don't know that that's what they did do with it, but this is what's possible. Right. I explained that all to him and I prepped him for six weeks before he went there. So I have that knowledge. I know what, um, network capture systems are, how they work. Right. And so for those reasons, I've been thinking about the vulnerabilities ever since. So I know you've got another set of guests coming on. They're not here yet, so you can stay on right now. I'm just trying to see. I want to see if they've got any problems, but we can keep going from it. And I finally got my other channel up. I've been sitting here going, what's going on? Why is this not on? So I finally got it up over on the other Rumble channel. If I was a little distracted, I was listening to you. And I know everybody else has your information is incredibly valuable. But I did get up and running, and we will repost the whole show after this because it was running everywhere else except for kind of screwed up on Rumble. So we are there. So I'll repost it to both channels after we get off the show. So the baseline I think that we prepared people with here is that – is that you can use blockchain which is a public open ledger to timestamp documents we talked about that at the very beginning which helps you verify credibility of claims It helps you put digital signatures on documents that can't be altered. And in that way, you can create collections of documents that are vetted and timestamped and signed for the purposes of FOIA and government operations. And you'll hear in the coming discussions how you could use that in local government and county, state, and federal government to prevent corruption and fraud. One thing that we know happened from Kash Patel and Dan Bogino is that there were documents created and captured at the FBI on various topics that were put into burn bags. And, you know, you might not be familiar with that process, but I am. I worked at agencies that had burn bags and document destruction was a purposeful and sometimes legitimate thing to do. Right. One might ask why these documents that the FBI were put into burn bags and not burn, because if you know how that world works, When the document is shredded and put in the burn bag, it gets burned immediately. It doesn't get left around in the safe somewhere for years and years and years. That fact alone is like, what? There were burn bags that were older than one day? Really? How's that happening? But this method of hashing and validating documents would prevent the evidence from being erased. that ultimately is what we want even if the contents aren't recoverable you want to know that a document existed at that time and you might want metadata to be preserved right go ahead and shred the document because it's private information and it wasn't relevant to the case you know our constitution has protections for that like that's why we have grand juries People need to be accused of something and evidence presented to a body of of jurors. And then they should be able to say, no, that there's nothing there. That evidence isn't sufficient. That doesn't show anything. And all of that gets destroyed. You shouldn't be smeared in the future because somebody alleged something and presented to a grand jury which said that wasn't legitimate evidence that should be destroyed. It wasn't legit, right? We shouldn't have records of those claims made against you then, because again, that can spill out and they'll use it to try you in public, right? In the press, right? Trial by press, hung by the press. because your private, the information about you that was alleged that was false gets spilled anyway. That's a legitimate reason to destroy so-called evidence, right? The fact that there was a grand jury shouldn't be destroyed, right? The identity of the grand jurors and the case number and the title, all that should be preserved, right? But what evidence was shown to them that was later found to be illegitimate should be destroyed, right? um so these are the things that we wrestle with with operating a government is document preservation metadata preservation um transparency disclosure to the public right i'm kind of a radical a radical person in this arena. I don't think there should be any documentation that the government holds that's classified. I hate the whole idea of classified information. And you might say, well, OK, but what about the nuclear codes the president has? OK, fine, right? There's one thin layer that maybe should be kept secret, and that's things like nuclear launch codes. Everything else should be public and transparent, right? I'm radical in that way. I lost your audio. You're muted. Okay, let's see. There we go. There's so many problems with the FOIA process and everything else that we really have... We really have to rethink everything and the way that everything's done. You know, this is one of the biggest things that I think as a nation we're going to have to get over. And that's breaking the programming and staying with what we know. Even though it doesn't work, people are more predisposed to stay with what they know than to change it. And that's never changed because it's in the Declaration of Independence. They had the same problem back there. It's in the Bible. I mean, this is this is a human condition to sit and be afraid of doing something new rather than just, you know, figuring it out. And if you're going to make some mistakes and I'm looking at this right now going, I don't know exactly what happened with the broadcast this morning, but I think you're it today. So I think there's a little bit of a scheduling glitch. There certainly was a glitch on Rumble this morning. But if you're going to do something unusual, you're going to make mistakes. And there's going to be things that don't go exactly smooth. And you got to be able to say, OK, well, I guess we're going to punt for today or in another situation. You know, this is not working. We're not going to just stay with it to enable the criminals to do the crap that they're doing right now. We have to move on and do a better job. And Face the troubles that were, you know, face them head on. You know, we talked about this last night, is run right into the fire and put it out. You know, just turning our backs on the problems is not helpful. It is not helpful at all. So I think that this is something we have to talk about. and really really you know consider consider what it is that we're dealing with and be be open to things that that we may not be familiar with i had a couple of questions that did come in and hang on a minute let me let me go back to this um Has a flaw of buying votes because now you can prove that your ballot was cast and counted for someone you paid, who was paid for. I don't understand this. But is there a way to make sure that people aren't paid for that Bitcoin that they have? I mean, is there a way to safeguard that? Because, you know, that's a good point. You know, is there a way to safeguard it? One hundred percent guaranteed it is secure. And here's how. Right. It does come back to voter ID. We have to solve that problem no matter what we do. Right. What happens, though, is at the time you prove your identity to the clerk, your voter ID, that coin is tied to you and that particular election. Nobody else can spend it. OK. And we guarantee that it's a legitimate voter. I need to step away for a second here. Yeah, no worries. So I apologize for for the disruptions this morning. Eric is a very good friend. He's very nice. And I appreciate him being able to come in and punt a little bit here this morning while I was trying to get things up and running. But I think it's just it's going to be myself and Eric today. And I don't know. I think I might have made a scheduling mistake, but I don't know. I mean, I mean, I will always point to myself and say, I don't know what happened. So we're going to we're going to get this figured out with the guys from from the, uh, the, the, uh, chain, um, uh, civic chain and see what happened here. But at any rate, they'll be back on. And this is one of those things that you punt and going back to making solvable changes in the future. We need to do it in our elections and politics. Even though I've run for governor, I literally hate politics with every fiber of my being. I don't like it. I'm not a politician. I'm just a, you know, I'm a normal person who has had a lot of things going on in business. And I try everything, okay? I'm willing to try everything. I'm willing to run into the fire and such. But, you know, that doesn't mean when I got asked to run for governor, that doesn't mean that I was necessarily a person that was like, oh, yeah, I want to be in office. Hell no. I mean, who would want that job, really? But it has to be done. It's like anything else. Our soldiers. You're still muted, Eric. Our soldiers. Did they want to go into battle? I'm going to tell you what. There's not one person that's ever gone into battle that says, oh, yeah, this is my best day of my life. Right? But you're still muted. I'm going to keep it muted because I have some background noise. So when I talk, I'll undo it. Okay, no worries. There's not one person that ever fights the hard battles in life that goes, this is what I want to do with the rest of my life. I would rather shovel horse crap all day long, if the truth be known. I don't want the titles. I don't want the position necessarily. But it is something I'm willing to do, and it's got to be done, okay? And honestly, I'm going to go back right now. And switch gears just a little bit to the U.S. Taxpayers Party, which is the Constitution Party in Michigan. The people that are that are with me in this and I'm the chair of that party. Right. It is a it is a interesting thing. path to be a chairman of a political party, even though I don't think we should have political parties. Nobody in the Constitution Party believes that we should have political parties, but it is what we have to work with right now. And all I have to say is we're having explosive growth. Because we're not doing it with money. I'm not raising any money. That's not what we're going to do because you know what? The Republican and Democrat parties, they're printing money. It's like they're in with the people that are printing money, not the parties themselves. Okay, let me clarify this. But the people in politics have the access to the people who can print money, come up with stuff out of thin air with the dark money and such. And so those of us who are little squeaks on the – the map of what is trying to be fought for for right. You know, there's a lot of good people that are fighting for what's right in this nation. We are literally willing to do this, though it's not our best day. Okay? And someday I will probably publish something to get all this information out there. And I have done everything that I've done. I've done for free. I have lost so much money on this fight. It's not even funny. I mean, people have no idea what myself, people like Eric, people that are fighting for this nation, not for money, not for glory. While we sit here getting kicked in the face over and over and over again. We're willing to do it. And I'm going to put a call out there for everybody. Everybody needs to get in this game and be willing to fight for this nation, not for money, status, a stupid title. I hate titles. And money, it makes people stupid. They're willing to do things for money that are unspeakable. And they'll do it without a backwards glance. If you're not that person and you're somebody who wants to fight for this nation, I'm going to tell you what, call me. Because we are banding together to fight for the United States of America. And there's a lot of us. I've got people down all over the United States that I know that are fighting for this nation. in the realm of being digital soldiers, which that's the term that General Flynn coined, okay? Be a digital soldier. Get out there and post, talk, and whatever. And don't jump into these people that are, oh, I'm going to sell this, that, or the other thing to try to, you know, keep myself relevant and such or doing things for click baiting. We've got to be able to get stuff out there in order to, encourage other people to join in this actual fight, which is only going to be fought by you and I. And that's not somebody within the system. I actually had a friend, I'm going to put something up since I think I might've gotten the date wrong on this, or I don't know what's going on. I'm not going to make excuses for it, but, but, uh, there was definitely a, a little bit of a confusion on this morning, but I want to show you something. And, and to, to my point here, I'm going to be able to find it now because it's the day, but guess what? That's here it is. We got it. This, this is how things work. If you're doing something without any help, you know, or, or relatively, small amounts of help. You're going to have to think outside of the box. You're going to have some problems. You're going to have to be able to punt. You're going to have to have it be something that doesn't dissuade you from the job, but get in it and make it count. Hang on a minute. I'm going to post this telegram now because if there's, there's not one path to get anything to work, but while I'm doing this, could you please fill in here? Yeah, let's talk about Telegram real quick. I'm going to repost the slides from this blockchain voting thing I put together years ago. I'll put those on my Telegram channel and then you can share it on yours. Donna, for people who want to get to the details. But it helps answer the questions that one commenter had about how do you guarantee it's not somebody else casting the vote or spending the coin. Those details are in that presentation. And I'll put that up there. Yeah, I love that. There is no political solution. Okay, so here we go. Now we're going to get the Donna Pepp talk right now on this, okay? I need some help across the state of Michigan. We are seating every county committee right now. And in the last few days, I think we've got five more that have joined or six. And I'm going to tell you what, if you are in any county, I've put every way to get a hold of me up there online. We are not going to back down We're not going away. I am not going away. I am not going to quit on this. We are absolutely going to take this nation back. And it's not going to be the politicians. If you think the Republican Party is going to save this nation, I got a lot of news for you. Something I found out in two separate calls yesterday is that, and it was clearly stated, that The person said that Perry Johnson is the pick for the Republican candidate for Michigan. And that he said, I didn't hear this, but I had it from two separate people. And one of them said that they heard it. And it's a good friend, very reliable, said that they heard it on the Republican convention that Perry Johnson said he's going to throw two hundred million dollars at this election and buy the seat. All right. This is one of the most un-American things I have ever heard in my life. I am so disgusted with this right now. I'm going to go back to the fact that these parties are criminal. They've got big money behind them. If you think this is Perry Johnson's money that's doing this, you're an idiot, okay? Nobody does it with their own money and I'm all over the place and I can tell you how this works and how they trade money back and forth and around and around about and they tie in the dark money and they get all the nonprofits involved and the NGOs and everything else like this. You're literally paying attention to organized crime when you see these systems out there. Now, I'm not saying that individual people are in it. They just may be as stupid as anything. And they go, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, we're going to do this. We're going to win this. And the Republican Party, the Democrat Party, that's what we're going to do. But I'm going to tell you what. The organized crime owns the game. They own it. And the only way to stop it is for you and I to get out of this system of failure that with the hopium that tells us that we're going to fix it this way. It's a lie. You cannot fix it from within. They're going to find a million ways of blackmail, subversion, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera, to get anybody who's honest out. However, You can play with the weapons that they have laying on the table and beat them at their own game if you can think strategy, game theory, and can figure out a way around this. You know what? I'm not so sure with third party how this is going to go. But what I do know, and one of the things that I think is more important at this point in time, is if you run for office, you have standing to sue them. so if we can't get this thing rectified one way i'm pretty extra sure that there are other ways of doing it but if you're not in the game you're not you're not helping and so going to all of these you know free coffee and cookie meet ups and such which is absolute they have one event to raise money to raise money for another event to raise money for another event to raise money for another event Well, the whole political nonsense is going on and it is not being changed. They're putting in their candidates. They're installing them. We're still looking at the polls, which are a lie. We're still looking at the money going, oh, look how much money they've raised. This is awesome. Without realizing that the people that are saying that are part of the problem. Because they're actually, okay, I guess this is truth in Brandenburg world today. The problem is the money in the elections. The problem is the money in governance. And in our local governments. And we're going to have more information on this because when I get my friend Matthew Rhodes, he's going to come back on. And the guys that are talking about this civics structure that's going on here. We're going to get to the bottom of this. So help me God, just like we did when they stole the ability for me to run under the Republican Party with hiding ballot or hiding signatures, lying about everything and being part of the signature gathering problem because it was the state of Michigan itself, the establishment that was involved in it. It wasn't just the signature gatherers, guys. And guess what? I'm the one that can tie it together with a state because I have proof. And I'm the only one that didn't take a payoff. Because everybody is so, ooh, we got to have money. We got to prosperity. If we do the right thing, God enables us. to have everything that we have to need to fight this and write it without being afraid of going forward. But going back to what we know, like the party system, is absolute moronic idiocy. And there's your pill for the day. You've told stories, and I'll keep it purposefully vague, but there are people you've had interactions with who portray themselves as kingmakers. And so they are connected or portray themselves as connected in such ways that they can make something happen, right? They can decide who gets elected and how and when and all that. And that shouldn't happen in a functioning democracy, right? There shouldn't be this notion of kingmaker. Well, yeah, we are a republic, but in a system that relies on voting, there shouldn't be this notion of people with power who can call themselves a kingmaker that can influence the system such that the outcome they want happens regardless of what you think. Right. That's exactly. And I had a conversation. Eric knows about a conversation I had this week. And this past week, and it was somebody who flat out said, I'm a kingmaker. And the people that are working behind the scenes that say that they're kingmakers, he's like, I put all these people in place. He literally said it. He literally said it exactly that way. I have had people that are still threatening me. And it goes on every day. And if you're an honest person, they're going to engage in coercion, threatened arrests. You're going to have to be prepared for it. But you know what? When you get a whole bunch of us that are honest together, that basically tell them to shove it and then shove it right in their faces with what they've done and what they've said. Oh, I have evidence all over the place on people who, that they'll never find all of it. And guess what? There is a dead man's switch that this stuff will blow out so big. But sometimes you got to get it all and get them all at one time. And I think that that's what's going on behind the scenes too. It's not just me, okay? It's not just me. I will pass on my information to the people that can pull the plug on the whole damn thing. And it's not just me. There's people all over the place that are doing the same thing. They're not going to get away from this. And when you hear in the Q posts, and guess what? I did follow Q. I still do listen and follow the Q posts that were posted because what they said is they didn't give us any answers. There were no answers given. They were given questions that encouraged us to dig down and find the answers. And I tell you, when I started this as an Anon, and I started it before, you know, I started this a long time ago, right? So did Eric. And you know what happened? We learned how to research for ourselves. We learned how to get outside. And people who look, oh, we're in the I want to ask all the questions and find my own answers. They never gave us any answers. The ones that took the information and started making money from it, They were the ones that were part of the PSYOP or in it for money. The rest of us were not. We were in it to get the answers so we could find out how to fix this and what went wrong and what we had to look at. And so there was so much bad information out there and there still is. The influencers, the one, oh, I follow this person, I follow that person. If I hear that, you're an idiot, okay? Yeah. The whole thing was about teaching people how to think, how to research, and peeling back the curtain and teaching people how to perceive that there is a curtain to be peeled back. If you don't even know that there's information hidden from you, you're not going to be motivated to go look. You have to begin at the beginning, which is, um there are systems in place designed to prevent you from exercising your natural curiosity and asking questions about how things work and why things happen right and you have to start there and um that that among other things was what this q movement was it created for was to you know build a group of people that were Curious, motivated, intelligent, willing to research, ask questions. That method, a friend of ours likes to call it the Socratic method, which is what it is, was one of the key pillars of that that project the q project whatever you want to call it right was encourage the development of the socratic method in a larger segment of the population because that's how you get to the answers is knowing how to um interpret and ask those questions and being courageous right um so You know, I wanted to kind of double back because this is in the news right now. And let's talk about transparency in government and classified and blah, blah, blah. One of the things that I've railed against for decades is And I wrote a Substack post about this. You're welcome to go read it about Bob Lazar and the Blackbird plane and the so-called S-IV facility out in Groom Lake. I have some personal direct connections to all that. I wrote about that recently. And what infuriates me is that there is some, let's just say there are claims that there is information. Maybe there isn't information. I don't know. But there are claims that there is information about our government possessing, you know, crashed, crashed craft from other civilizations or aliens or UFOs or what have you. Recovery programs don't know whether that's true or not. But there's claims that there's information that's been withheld, right? And you've got these people in the House now, Representative Luna and Tim Burchett and Burleson and others who are on these committees. And they come on and they have a little clip on X and they tell you, oh, you know, we were told something in a skiff that if you knew what we knew, you know, there would be a huge hue and cry. And I'm like, Tim Burchett? Your job as a congressperson is to make that information public to us, not to listen to it in a skiff and feel privileged that you heard X, Y, and Z about special stuff. You need to push to make that transparent. I deserve as a citizen and a human being to know what you know. And your freaking boss, that's the thing that everybody's missing. They're acting like kings and queens instead of an administrator to do things for us in a service contract, but we're the bosses. We need to say, we want this done. We want this to be honest. We want all taxation, which is unconstitutional, to end now. We want this information out. And if we've got a shadow government running it, keeping us all in the dark over everything and treating us like children, this has got to stop. Yeah. You know, there are these things, you know, for those who don't know the lingo, there's a thing called a SCIF. And it stands for secure – and I'm going to get this wrong – secure compartmented information facility, something like that. Right. And what it means is that there is a place that is protected from eavesdropping and, you know, is lead lined walls and what have you inside of which people can be shown documents either in paper or electronic form that are classified. And that facility is supposed to prevent it from leaking out. Right. It's supposed to be a a bank vault that you go into and you look at the documents and then you leave. Why the hell do those things exist? Right. I said at the beginning, there might be a really thin layer like the nuclear launch codes that should be in a safe somewhere. All right. Everything else should not be in a safe right now. They know everything, right? If they know everything, why aren't they going after the bad guys and taking this thing right down to where it should be? If they're not doing that and they're allowing the criminals to run free and be a threat out in society and just playing like cat and mouse with each other. I mean, you and I have had discussions about this before. I am automatically disqualified for anything to do with the deep state because I won't lie for anybody. Right. I'm not going to lie. And. When we look at this sort of cat and mouse thing, this ends when somebody has the guts to tell the truth and tell it to everyone so that people aren't just, you know, kept in the playpen. I know, you know, like children. I know when I was in D.C. one time and I got to go through, you know, some of the tunnels that are there. And I ran into a guy that was part of the Capital Architects. which is they do all the underground everything, okay? So I was poking them, you know, I'll go up and I'll poke people to see how they get reactions on them and such. And I'm like, so how many stories you really got underneath the ground here? Because, you know, there's all sorts of conjecture and that sort of thing. And, and he's like, you know, I can't tell you that. And I'm like, why not? You work for me. We're paying your salary, you know? And he would, he became very grandfatherly towards me at that moment. And I was like, there's way more to this story than what anybody wants to admit to. He's like, it's for your protection. We're protecting us from what? Right. It's patronizing, right? Another way to say grandfatherly is patronizing. It's there, there, little child. You know, you're not ready to know this yet. Yeah. Who are you to judge that? Right. That's my choice. Right. Right. If you've spent enough time and I just say this for everybody because I'm kind of a person that wants to know everything, the good, the bad, the ugly. I want to know all the problems. I'm not afraid to look at that at problems and such, because the only way you fix it is if you confront it. Right. Turning your back, brushing it under the carpet. It doesn't fix anything. So if you get on X and start seeing the horrible treatment of people across the globe and such. Now, the kingdom that I belong to or the government that I belong to, I'm going to tell you right now, is higher than the United States of America. It is the kingdom of God. There's a whole different metric that gets involved in this. I'm not willing to have somebody say, well, it's their religion and just say, oh, isn't that nice? We're just going to let them behead people. We're going to let them burn people alive. We're going to let them cannibalize. We're going to let them justify pedophilia and say it's just their religion. or the mutilation that's gone on in this country. It's just a choice to change gender and have all of these clinics for gender. I think I just invented a word, clinder, gender clinics type of things that are out there. Have them all changing people's, trying to change their biology. They're not doing that. They're not changing biology. You're stuck with it. It's in your DNA. You can't change it. You know, if your kid gets up one day and says, oh, I want to be a pirate. Do the parents take him down and chop a leg off and give him a peg leg, poke an eye out and give him an eye patch? It's absurd. It's insane. No common sense. And look at the human damage that has been done under the guise of it's a religion. They have that right. Well, you have a right to practice freedom of religion, but I'm pretty extra sure that you don't have the right to commit crimes against humanity under the mask or guise of hiding criminal activities. Right. And that, you know, circling back to the government realm, that hiding information under the guise of protecting criminal activity, right? Exactly. Same thing. That's what's become of our classification system. And we see this now, you know, and Kash Patel is showing us evidence. It's that they've begun to use these systems of classification to redact things that are embarrassing or criminal. Despite the fact that there's a law that says thou shalt not use classification to do that, they still do it. Well, look at the funds out there that if somebody has been alleged to have had allegations of sexual improprieties, which... Guys, you got to know that this is happening in a mass amount of cases. I actually heard a girl recounting of being sexually abused by somebody who was in office when she was a child and said and the whole thing was it was it was exactly what happened. And it was a congressman that basically had a gun to his head. And, you know, and she said he cried the whole entire time. And it's like, this stuff is real. It's happening. They have a, they have a, a fund set up to pay off people who have alleged things. Now let's come back to this. I don't believe every allegation that's out there. Okay. Most of it is absolutely crap. Okay. People who wait with an allegation for years and some woman pops up and says, Oh, you know, he was, he was inappropriate with me after years. I'm like, I believe in this. OK, right off the bat, they're going to have to prove it more than their word at that point in time for me. You know, it's too easy to fake stuff like that and destroy good people's reputation. Billy Christensen was on yesterday. And he was telling, he's a candidate in Florida, a very, very nice person. I met his wife, okay? They're a normal couple. And they have been attacked brutally, including having reports filed allegedly that his wife, that he was battering his wife. It's absolute, one hundred percent nonsense. It didn't happen. OK. And and so all of this stuff, you know, going back to believing what we hear that's out there, you know, and having people say, oh, you know, I'm listening to this channel. They've got all this great knowledge. OK, first of all, who is that person? Have they put their name out there? Have they put everything out there so that they can be held accountable for the nonsense they're putting out there and the lies? I don't think so. Do you know them? Would you leave your children with this person? Right, right. You know, one of the innovations that I really like on X and it's, you know, just getting started. And yes, there are our flaws with it, but it's better than nothing. And that is on any post that you see on X, there's a little icon in the top right. and you can just click it and ask Grok to validate that thing, right? So a lot of the times when I see these sensational, you know, influencer posts on this, that and the other, you know, first thing I do is I click that to get the background. And invariably, Grok says that's a hoax. You know, they reposted it from somewhere else, you know, and it gives you that insight into the origin of whatever that claim is. Sometimes it's legit and then you're like, okay, let me dig deeper into that But for these ones that are just you know, like click and subscribe bait It it cuts that under it cuts it out from underneath and right away, you know I'm not gonna waste any more of my time on that, you know now that I know the facts That's useful, you know Back in the day, people would make these debunking things like Snopes, right? And the whole point was you were supposed to go and validate claims on Snopes to see if it was a hoax or not. And that came from a good place and was immediately corrupted. Absolutely. You know, when you find out... the the backgrounds of the people who wrote who made that you know it's like they're horrible human beings right yeah they're part of the problem i mean look at most of the stuff that's out there where'd it come from probably darpa or the military you know somewhere in the military look at the ai stuff that's out there i don't even trust i i get on ai i'll look for things. Do I trust it? Absolutely not. It's like one of those one of those sources that gives you just like you did a starting point. But that's not the end point to anything. It is where you start to get to the sources and build your own case for what you're seeing. And then even those sources have to be questioned. Well, who's who's involved in this? And how do you connect the people that are behind the scenes? And that sort of thing to see if there's a network there and have they dragged in other misinformation in order to lead people astray. That goes back to General Flynn's book and and about fifth generation warfare. We're in it. And it's operational every day. Yeah. Yeah. And that, I think, was the thing that needed to be cultured, right? Because there wasn't enough of it. And that was the driving force behind Q. And it was the driving force behind publishing those books, right, is to show people how to think and question, right, and cross-verify and validate. That skill used to be prevalent, and now it's been lost. And we can make the case that it was purposefully drummed out of us by the quote unquote education system. Right. The population at large does not have the critical thinking ability. And those books and that that the Q Project were a method to re revive that, reinstall it. I have a story from my own personal background, which I'll share. And, you know, people will tear it, tear it, tear it down, tear the people about down. But I have a mentor who coached me for many decades and he's a PhD in mathematics, company co-founder of several companies in the Bay Area. He was a co-founder on two companies I was part of. And he's one of the smartest people I know. He's a mathematician who is used in consulting projects to design complex systems like antenna arrays and whatnot. And he had a friend who was a military person, and that guy's name was Admiral Poindexter, John Poindexter. And for those of you that, you know, remember the Reagan era and the Iran-Contra scandal and all that, that name surfaced there and he was, you know, he was prosecuted for his role in whatever that was. And I don't know all the details, so I don't know what opinion to take of that, you know, prosecution and all that. But what I do know is that Paul told me a story once about Poindexter. And he said that Poindexter coined the term open source intelligence, OSINT. So that term was invented at some point. And Poindexter was credited with inventing that term and the idea of doing open source and public intelligence gathering. And what Paul told me he did is he had a pilot program and this would have been back in the eighties where they used a group of Midwest housewives in Iowa and Illinois and Indiana, you know, who were knitting and sitting in their farmhouses and gave them intelligence documents, newspaper clippings, all that kind of stuff to read. and to figure out what the intelligence was. Intelligence is the extraction from information, right? All that stuff is just raw information, but in the information might be intelligence, which is meaningful, actionable stuff. And so he tasked this group of housewives to read the information and produce the analyst reports. And what he found was that this group of Iowa and Illinois housewives were better at producing intelligence products than the security agencies that we were relying on to do it before. So the stuff that crossed the desks of the government, the president and whatnot come from these desks of analysts at the various agencies. And Poindexter showed that Iowa housewives can do a better, faster, less biased job of digesting information and making these reports than the agencies that were doing it. Because once the agencies do it, now it's corrupt. You've got people in positions of power in those agencies who have political motivations or financial motivations or They're spies or who knows what it is. And that's going to taint, you know, that product, that intelligence product. It isn't going to be the truth. It's going to be somebody's spin on the truth. And so he he pioneered this idea of open source intelligence and members of the public doing research. And I'm convinced that that is the thrust that led to things like Q. It led to the, you know, the Cicada, the thing that happened that was, you know, an Internet puzzle where they wanted to see if they could find people who are capable of solving those kinds of puzzles. Did you do Cicada? I did a few of them, but I wasn't smart enough to get all the way to the end. They're tough. They're really tough. I knew what it was about. I knew it was a way to solicit people from the public who might not otherwise ever think about applying for a job like that. connect them to the NSA or whoever, because they're good at math or good at logical reasoning or whatever it is. They showed the competence. And so it was a game to establish or to discover that competence in the public. That was interesting. Clever way to find people that have those skills. I can share that the college that I went to, Rose-Hulman, Institute of Technology at the time I graduated in nineteen eighty nine. Something like I'm going to guess here, but I think it was like two thirds of the graduates in the mathematics program from that university were recruited by the NSA to be cryptanalysts, right? Because one of the professors there was well known in the cryptography field at the time, right? And so his students were sought after by those agencies, right? So a huge number of my peers in mathematics at the time went right to work there. So I say all this just to point out that ideas behind open source intelligence that led to Q and other things like it originated far, far back in the past. Right. As far back as the early eighties when when Admiral Poindexter was doing this stuff. Right. So I think I think it probably even went before that. I think that that when really it started forming up was probably in sixty three. And that's when I think it, you know, there's a lot that points to that. after the Kennedy assassination that people realized that the United States was in serious trouble. And then you watch the slow degradation from there. But, you know, you look at the formation of the Federal Reserve, it goes way farther back or in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in. Lincoln's presidency was actually illegitimate. If you look at it for what was in the Constitution, there were no titles of nobility. And he was a lawyer. He was an esquire. That's a title of nobility, which isn't allowed in government. And it still isn't, though they have manipulated the qualifications, the constitutions. We've had revisions to all of this. And they basically, I think it was a clerk that just said, we're just going to put them on. Well, that established precedent right there because nobody challenged it. We still have that problem now. They just write things into law. They just make it up on the fly like Jonathan Brader does, our director of Bureau of Elections, who just got nailed by Kurt Olson in saying that, yes, He he broke the law. And this is going to come with some stiff penalties. Just wait. This is going to be real interesting. So but if you watch the slow roll of what happened with the United States, when Benjamin Franklin said we've given them a republic, if they can keep it, he wasn't just kidding. He knew they knew what was going to happen because they came out of the exact same problem with. leaving Britain and all of the grievances that are contained in the Declaration of Independence, they're absolutely, you could take that and say, boom, we are here right now. They were students of history. They were well-read. They knew what happened in Rome and ancient Greece and other places that experimented with various forms of democracy. They read the writings of the philosophers who studied all that. They knew all the weaknesses. They knew human proclivities. And they constructed a system of government with the Constitution and around the idea of a republic, knowing full well that they were trying to prevent the collapse of a government because of these weaknesses. And so when you hear these Democrats talking about Oh, wouldn't it be nice if we directly elected the president instead of this arcane electoral college thing? They didn't read the history. They don't know why that was put into place. It wasn't just some arbitrary rigging thing. It's not like Benjamin Franklin and those folks were like, let's rig this in our favor and we'll put this electoral college thing in there. No, they knew what was the flaw of the tyranny of the majority. They knew because they saw how it collapsed in the past to avoid that. The modern Democrat wants to push back and do that again. Haven't you learned? That the whole reason we have a republic is because your method doesn't work. It leads to destructive outcomes. But that's what they want. The fifty one percent wants to tell the forty nine percent how to live. Right. Well, and I mean, to put it in real terms, a democracy is the least stable form of government that is available to us. I mean, and it always devolves into tyranny because what happens is if you have, just think about the psyops going on now, okay? And there's a lot of them, you know, love this person, hate this person, like this method, don't like this method. How are we going to cheat here? How are we going to cheat here? Look over here where I'm screwing you over here. That's what's going on, okay? So when you have a democracy, let's just say for reasons that all of a sudden everybody decides that something is bad or something is good and they want something bad voted out. That fifty-one percent decide that God is to be outlawed in this nation. prayer now we've had it attacked i i'll tell you that we've had an attack but we haven't had fifty one percent say there is no more god in this system if we have a democracy fifty one percent could absolutely abolish any trace, any book, anything that we treasure. They could abolish another gender. They could, you know, the other one, they're only two, but I mean, they can abolish having children. They can abolish... They can invent new genders. What's that? They can invent new genders. Yeah, they can invent, exactly. You know, and so, I mean, they can go to anything crazy that... that it violates people's rights or public upholds individual rights. And so I may not agree with you on something, but it's still my job to protect your rights as long as they don't infringe on the rights of others, which brings us right back to gender reassignment surgeries, et cetera. when when you infringe on the rights of others and that gets a little tricky trippy because it's parent-child relationship so that was probably bad example but you know what i mean um it's still it's still a problem it's a problem okay because they turned it into commerce but i digress okay when you infringe on the rights of others you are automatically out of bounds but for us to be able to have disagreements. And I mean, you know, you and I have been in lots of meetings where there's been disagreements and people have to come to a discussion and try to discuss it out without getting emotional and listen and try to try the merits of the discussion that's being had or the argument that a person is providing for or against something and then come together and And thoughtfully consider and then discuss how the merits of one or another and then come to an agreement that everybody and do we always come to an agreement that way? You know what? I actually believe that we can always come to an agreement. that satisfies both sides. And the reason why I say that, people will say, oh, you know, you got to compromise. You got to give here and take there, blah, blah, blah. No, you don't. If you sit down and talk with people, you can usually come to an educated agreement on why somebody is, or something is good or bad. So the compromise agreement to me is a very, it's a stupid argument because it just, it stops people from holding the line on things. and letting it be a co-opt to something that is evil. When you sit down and have a thoughtful discussion, you can come to an agreement if you're both wanting to have a good solution instead of wanting to push a psychological operation or an operation where the person is self-enriching or enriching for a purpose. So I think that's misused. The thing I would leave people to think about, your ready answer when you're challenged on this stuff is that the Constitution and the Republic was designed to protect the rights of the minority from the will of the majority. And the classic example is pure democracy is two wolves in a sheep voting on what's for dinner. That's pure democracy, right? A republic is the sheep with the gun. Right. There you go. Yeah. So, uh, yeah, well, this has been a great discussion. I'm kind of glad that, that it went this way and, uh, we'll all repost on the rumble channels. I don't know what happened other than both of them crashed at the same time they were working. So, and then I did get them up, but I'm going to pull the post the full episode and forgive me for being over here trying to fix things. I've got like five screens I'm running at once here and, and trying to keep things up and such. But re-listen, you know, I'm going to go back and re-listen to the beginning, though I was listening. I want to make sure that that I really have it in my brain here. And I'll post some clips from this and such, but this is truly authentic. And I would rather have something authentic than something canned, you know, that looks canned, acts canned, and is canned. That's a psyop because it's just two friends talking here having coffee, right? And I think that's profitable for the truth getting out. So on that note for full disclosure, that's not really my background. That's a fake background. So there we go. Full disclosure. You want to know full disclosure here, which I think is funny. So this is actually a backdrop. But it is a picture because I moved from where I was in front of this actual scene in my dining room at the dining room table that had the fireplace behind me and my torn up chair that I love dearly because it's really comfortable. Right. And so we're like, how do I transition to putting this and creating an office so that the rest of the family isn't held hostage with me sitting in the middle of the house every day and not being able to talk? So we took a picture of exactly where I sat in the chair in my dining room and then printed off this backdrop. and put it in and, and, and took it, took another room and made it into an office so that we could continue on. But yeah, I mean like, I'm like, but it is, it is all still the same other than that, you know? And I, I really do like the authenticity of just being a real person and kind of laughing at life a little bit, you know? Life is funny. And Eric and I were talking last night about how to honestly bring things back to more reality. And I think I'm going to do some more barn stuff. Just giving people a place to rest. I hate politics. but it's work that has to be done, okay? And so I think we're going to do that and just hopefully invite everybody in just to be a person, not to play politics. Be real. Tell everybody how you really feel. You don't have to sugarcoat it. You sure as heck don't have to sugarcoat it around me because, you know, that's what we need in the United States. Call a spade a spade, all right? Call it out when you see things. Don't be afraid of hurting, even hurting perhaps your alliances you've made. If you're afraid to get off of a party that is criminally involved in taking down the United States, which the Republican Party and the Democrat Party is, you can't tell me you're going to fix it from the inside because you can't. I had a friend yesterday tell me something that was one of the most shocking things I have ever heard in my life. The statement was made that I'm going to be intentionally vague on this, okay? Because most of the time there are evil people out there and then there's people that are trying to do the right thing that are just fumbling through life. That's the situation that this was coming from. This person said, yeah, I'm doing this because you know what? You can't win by being honest, right? You can't win by doing things in an honest way. You got to win by cheating. And I was so shocked and disgusted by that statement right there. I was like, wonderful, just wonderful. One more person that has gone into Stupidville instead of holding the line and saying the only way we win permanently is by playing the game honestly. And I'm going to tell you what right now. I believe in my heart of hearts that President Trump is playing the game honestly. Oh, he's playing the game. There's no two ways about it. But he's using the law to beat them with. He's not going out and breaking the law as it were. And you know how he's doing it? He's doing it because the military is in control and we're under the military manuals. What do you do when your country's been taken over? It was. It is. What do you do when every person in the seat is either too stupid to know how to run the country because they took civics out of our schools and people are not informed on it? What do you do when the entire country is is completely off the rails. They have overlaid the democracy, the de jure government, with a fake government that runs in commerce, that doesn't represent the people, that has literally totally taxed them into a point of weakness so they can't fight, who has put them in schools and made them the property of the state. That's what they did. What do you do? Well, guess what? The military is supposed to help ensure that. There's a way, but it's only through the military. And when he stepped in and got sworn in, Biden never got sworn in legally. Look at it. I had Robert on here talking about it too, about what happened when Biden was not sworn in. There was not one proper process That was followed. The military turned their back on them. The gun salutes weren't even correct. I mean, it was tape. You could look at the cameras from different angles. People disappeared. They appeared. They did this. They were trying to tell us what was happening without broadcasting it. Because if they had told us, guess what, guys? This is a day of absolute change right now. And now we're going to get them all. When you look at what was actually done and you think about it, not for, oh, please spoon feed me like a bunch of baby birds, but we're going to get in behind the scenes and we're going to figure out what was what was happening here. And then when President Trump got sworn in in twenty four, he never had his he never laid his hand on anything. It was highly irregular. Nothing was in a regular process. that we would expect unless it was under the continuity of government, which allowed for all sorts of things to step in front of these criminals and restore the Republic. And when he said, I'm giving the government back to we, the people, he wasn't kidding. And so I think that everybody, we're going to see some change here and it's going to be epic. There's going to be some bumps and bruises along the way, but For everybody that's not awake yet to what's going on, you're going to be. There's no getting away from this and nothing can stop what is coming. It may seem scary, but I guess I'm going to tell you what, I'm not going away. There's a lot of good people out there that like Eric, they're not going away either. We're staying in this fight until the end. And we're fighting for you. We're fighting for our families. We're fighting for everything that you love and believe in. And we're asking you to join us in this fight that steps away from these people that are usurpers. Step away from it because there's another way to do it. And that's the lawful way. And beat them in the lawful way and restore the republic to what it was intended to be. Standing strong, standing right. So with that said, let's say a prayer for today. And we're going to pray for the strength of God, not in our own strength. It's God's strength that will take us through this, our whole country. is being directed by God Almighty because there's people that are praying for it. When we pray, he gives us what we ask for. All right. May not be what we think, but he's going to give us what we need to fight this fight. Dear Heavenly Father, thank you so much for this day, for truth, for honor, for everything coming out that exposes the darkness from dark to light, that we can see what's going on and that we can restore things to the way that, that, you want them to be. May your kingdom be on earth as it is in heaven. We fight for you. We fight because you've given us the eyes to see things, the strength to walk the path that you've laid before us. We're excited for this path. It's a little bumpy, but what a ride, what an adventure you've given us and that you put us here now. What an honor that you would put us here now and that we can walk with you as you give us strength, guidance, discernment, wisdom. friends, that we need your children coming together to have a wonderful, amazing, amazing experience that draws us ever closer to you. We thank you from the bottom of our hearts, from the core of our beings, for everything that you've done for us. And in the name of Jesus Christ, our Lord and Savior, we will stand to the end of of time to the end of time as we walk through you and going back into your presence in the glory of your presence and all we want to hear everything we've done gets laid at your feet and all we want to hear is well done and what a glorious thing it is we thank you for everything we ask that you give everyone strength and courage and that we would have your favor and your blessings as we walk this path ahead of us In the name of Jesus Christ, we pray. Amen. So with that said, boys and girls, we're going to go to that part of the show. Ding, ding, ding, ding. Go to BrandonBurkeGovernor.com because I'm the best non-conceders ever, not conceded in history of the United States of America. And I want to have a discussion with the rightful president of the United States, actually the commander-in-chief of the United States, President Donald J. Trump, wearing cowboy boots. We're going to see who wears them better. It'll be me because I wear them every day. And then we're going to talk about real things. And so with that said, enjoy this day, knowing that the continuity of government is going on. I met one of the guys that wrote it. Very old man. He's fantastic. And and what's really going on here? Have courage because you know what? We're going to do this thing. So with that said, God bless you. God bless all those whom you love and God bless America. Make it a great day. It starts here. Strength of heart here in our mind. And here is God leads us every day into past. And charts charted, of course, parts unknown. OK, have a great day. And I'll let you know when we'll be back on. Hopefully that this is where God, I'm going to tell you, I feel like God planned it this way. It needed to go in this direction today. And so I'm thankful the day went as it did. Have a great day and much love to you all.