Published Aug. 21, 2025, 9:02 a.m.
9am Shawn Starry - Panhandle Documentary and Author of several books. We will be discussing survival techniques if domestic terrorism occurs or in a wartime scenario. Other subjects Texas wildfire DEW Directed Energy Weapons -Freedom Garden Club Podcast X/Twitter: https://x.com/i/broadcasts/1MYxNlrkbjXGw Rumble: https://rumble.com/v6xvnk2-bnn-brandenburg-news-network-8212025-shawn-starry-security.html https://rumble.com/v6xvnfq-bnn-brandenburg-news-network-8212025-shawn-starry-security.html Odysee: https://odysee.com/@BrandenburgNewsNetwork:d/bnn-2025-08-21-shawn-starry-security:c BNN Live: https://Live.BrandenburgNewsNetwork.com Guests: Donna Brandenburg, Shawn Starry
Good morning and welcome to Brandenburg News Network. I am Donna Brandenburg and it is the twenty first day of August twenty twenty five. Welcome to our show today. Hey, well, we've had some convoluted things happening here like crazy. But you know what? I'm coming to the conclusion that that this life is kind of about the fight and not laying down and walking away, walking away from the challenges that are put in front of us. It's about getting up and continue to walk. And you know what? There are there is so much value in and continuing to go on, even when things seem to be maybe a little bit non-ideal. It also teaches us to be resilient in all situations. So we're going to be talking about some of this as well as security. And I'm going to bring on my first guest because I had to see where Sean is. He's on my eye right now, but we'll see if he comes in. Hey guys, how you doing? Great. How are you doing? Good. Ralph and Chris are here today, and we're going to be talking about some security. And Ralph and I kind of planned a show, too, based on privacy and security internet-wise. And so this is going to fit right in really well. So what's happening in Chris' world right now? Well, you know what? We just had the phone conversation. I think it's almost proof that there is hope in the world and each of us can change it. We can change things. A lot of us think that, well, there's nothing I can say or do that's going to change anything. But I believe that God did give us free will. And I do believe that for the reason we have goodwill is not so that we can benefit from it ourselves, but that we can use that hope he gave us and change everything. And that is by us participating, like you've been saying, not by just living our own life and going down our own river. Because this river is like the Mississippi. This destiny for all of us is like the Mississippi. It is wide. That's why one person, but a lot of us, if we listen to other people, maybe we can make that Mississippi change its course. Maybe we can take a part of that river and make it go a different direction, which changes the whole river. I do. And I'm coming to the conclusion right now that the things that we think we need to win to write this world are probably are probably a path. OK, but the real thing that writes this world is when we learn to be resilient. and never stop on a quest to bring goodness and justice into what's around us. It's sort of like becoming, the easy way to explain it is that there's so much darkness and corruption. I got another email this morning from Renita up north where they're working in the bond issue up there. And you can see how much deception and corruption is going on here. We ended up having a judge yesterday. The judge denied our TRO attached to our ex parte to halt the work that's going on where they're draining water and fire in township. Now, I don't know why that happened yesterday. It would seem pretty open and shut to me that if you're damaging other people and people are becoming... absolutely unable to live in their houses because there's no fricking water. Why a judge would not sign that temporary restraining order to stop them from the actions that they're doing. We still have our emergency injunction in place, of course. However, they denied to sign that to stop them in their tracks. It seemed like that was the quickest way to go. So right now the emergency injunction is still standing. But in the meantime, in this water wars things, Christina Mims decided to not step in the way of threat to immediate threat to the situation, which is crimes against humanity that's being committed by Byron Township, the contractors, all the oversight committees or oversight agencies and refuse to do anything to help. And that's Judge Christina Mims. We need to see what's going on. Now, I'm not going to bash her too much because I've had an interaction with her before, and I was really impressed with her. And she may see something there too in the emergency injunction that is far more powerful than the TRO that we signed. So I'm going to just let this thing play out. I mean, we could do a couple of different things. We could file it as an appeal. but I don't think I want to do that because the emergency injunction is still in place. So I'm just going to let this thing play out. But the most important part of this is to give it to God, put it in God's hands. I acted in what he, I felt he wanted me to do. And right now I feel like I need to just sit tight, see if, if, uh, judge Mims is gonna, what she's going to do next, because there's several things on, on the table here. And, um, You either believe God's in control or he's not. Going to despair is a real easy thing to do when you see a lot of people breaking the law, doing the wrong thing, having this darkness that's just this soul-sucking energy around them all the time to do the wrong thing. but our job here is to rise above it in all situations. When I hear people say, what difference does it make? I'm not going to do anything because it's not going to matter anyway. I just think, okay, I'm going to tell you right now, if you say that, if you make that statement And this is jumping off of what we were talking about before, Chris. You're basically telling me that you have no faith in God. I'm not going to do anything. I'm going to stand down. And, you know, there's no hope. There's only despair. I'm not going to get involved. I, I, I, I, I. instead of well let's sit here a minute and take a few minutes to be a little bit um annoyed by this situation that's okay it's okay to be mad when you see injustices being done that's a that's a godly that's a godly anger for seeing unrighteousness that's okay you wouldn't be normal if you didn't feel a little bit of that and sometimes it's a good motivation okay we are human we are going to have those kinds of reactions. And that's a good thing. And those reactions sometimes gives us the ability to punch forward into areas that we maybe would never have gone. And I got to tell you, having been trounced on in the twenty twenty two election as a governor candidate, they threw they threw everything they had at me because they wanted to stop me, because honestly, I'm probably the only honest candidate that's been running in this race for a very long time. But I sat back and looked at this and said, okay, I hit a roadblock here. Now I'm going to see if I can get over, under, or around that roadblock in one way or the other and trust that God is going to provide a way. The thing of it is, is that during those times, what you learn is you find more criminality. You find more things that need to be addressed. You continue your education, but also it's sort of like you get stronger. Every time they come at you, you get stronger. Now, I'm going to tell you, don't worry about taking time to have a pity party. I do that once in a while. I don't really go to a pity party. I go to... Right. And I grumble. Chris knows me. Ralph knows me. I grumble. I get pissed off. I'm like, I have to have that as part of my process. That is, in fact, what God built into me to deal with absolute criminality and things that are wrong. OK, I'm going to do it. There's no way around it. it's going to happen okay and then after I sit there and get the poison out of my system for the disgust at seeing people doing the wrong thing then I start thinking again and I'm like okay god what did you want me to see through this and I'm going to tell you what one of the greatest lessons that you can ever learn is that god is literally telling us that um Well, you needed to learn this because I'm giving you another tool to stuff in your toolbox right now for the next time something comes up. We're getting stronger every time we get up and speak out at one of these council meetings. Everyone is getting stronger. They're getting less full of fear. They're learning to walk into the courts. They're learning to look at the law. They're learning to say, I don't need this criminal enterprise of the Bar Association. I might make some mistakes. I'm going to make mistakes. Everyone is. No matter what you do that's a different scenario, you're going to make mistakes. You're going to make mistakes even if you do things that you've done over and over and over again. You might have, you know, if you're in the military, you might have a firearm that jams on you. Is that your problem? No, it's not your fault. Sometimes things just happen. But I'm going to just say right now that every time something like that happens that's not ideal in the way we see the world, we're learning, we're getting stronger. God is honing our skill sets, and those skill sets are entirely spiritual. This world, if you worship this world, which most people do, they have a worship of this world, of what they've done, how they're perceived by others, what they've amassed, their direction they're going, how smart they are, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. The list is like, phew, seventeen times to Taiwan and back, right? But the reality is, is the only thing that we should be focusing on is take that moment, take a breath, And what are you learning? Are you learning discernment and wisdom? It's a, you gotta exercise the spiritual gifts. They don't just glow and they're here and they're mature. It's like you might be given a taste of a gift, but that gift is never, ever fully matured. And that's where we need to focus. And when you get, that calm, that peace that passes understanding, to be able to go into those dark places. Like I'm going to tell you, I have in the last few weeks been beat up beyond all description or recognition. And it's by people that are on your own team. It's not just when Jesus was all alone, he was all alone in most of what he did. And he had a ragtag band of imperfect disciples and apostles that followed him. They turned into apostles, but they were very flawed. All of them are flawed. Every person that's in the Bible is highly flawed except for Jesus Christ. That is it. And when you read their stories, it's not a story of Abraham or Isaac or Joseph or go down the list, go back to Noah. He was highly flawed. All of them were highly human and highly, highly flawed. It's being able to walk with people who are highly flawed and not have your path, your trajectory determined by the acceptance or the failures or the rejections of people around you. Take that time and sit there and go, yep, I'm annoyed, I'm pissed at what I'm seeing around you. Okay, God, what do you want me to do with this? spaghetti amount of nonsense going on to leave the world a better place. This battle is not ours. It's God's. And in the meantime, he could he could stop that like that twinkling of an eye. It could be gone, right? All the bad stuff could be gone. Why is he allowing it to be here? I don't always have an answer to that, except for he did. He does. And he is. And so our job right now is to say, okay, God, you just hit me a curve ball here. Not quite sure exactly where this is going, but I'm going to take a swing at it and I'm going to swing again, again, And again, and again, and again, no matter how many hard balls, fast balls, out of bounds, whatever it is, I'm going to try to bet that, make sure it's in the strike zone, but I'm going to take a swing at it. And I might even take a swing at something that's out of the strike zone, just because I'm honing my skills and seeing if I could stretch further. Farther without getting demoralized, down, depressed, or any of that. What you're proving is your resiliency and your ability to keep going no matter what. And when I say that is, did Jesus stop when they killed him? No. May I? so you're you are absolutely right and what we were talking about is that for example when I was talking about like a destiny but not in a destiny in the sense that oh well it's uh just gonna oh chris got a phone call he'll be back in just a second so so going going um back to that I know chris got a phone call that's why he went dark he'll be back um When something bad happens, you have to get the lesson out of it and say, okay, I'm going to stop. I'm going to think this through and I'm going to pray about it first and foremost and find out exactly what we're supposed to learn from this. Every single day I learn that I know what I don't know or that I don't know what I don't know, but the process is valuable to go through. And not say, I'm going to stop because I didn't get my way. And that's kind of what I'm seeing a lot of. I can't do anything anyway. They're not listening to me. Okay. Maybe you need to talk louder. You know, maybe you need to change the plan. Maybe you need to bring something into the mix. It's like having a recipe for life. We got all this stuff put in front of us. And we can go like this and bring other things into the recipe as we're building this, as we're following that path that God has given us. And hey, Chris, you get a phone call? No, no. Well, I did. Yeah. But I guess that's what cut the signal off. Oh, go ahead. I'm sorry. I just said that it's kind of like life gives us when you left. It's like a recipe. We've got the whole world sitting in front of us. Now, what are you going to bring in to this recipe as you build your life, your purpose? And I don't mean instant gratification nonsense. of playing constant golf and having that be your life's goal, right? I mean, we all have things we enjoy. I would love to be the greatest horsewoman on the planet. It's just because I've got interest in that. But more than that, I like to rescue. I like to rescue people. I like to rescue animals. I like to build things that just... make the world a better place or easier for people? What are you going to bring in? What's your purpose? Is the purpose for me, it was like, was the purpose to be the governor of Michigan? You want to know something? I agreed to do the job when asked. However, it was never something I wanted to do. Never, ever, if I'm asked to do a job, I told God Almighty I would say yes. No matter what the job is, that if he wanted me to do something, no matter what it is, I would say yes. Even if it was at the disapproval of the masses, doesn't matter to me. Because I will follow God no matter what anybody says or thinks. Because that's my goal, right? And so God tells me, file a pro se lawsuit. I have a lot of people, you are wrong. I'm not going to talk to you because you're filing pro se. I'm not going to be around you because you talk to this person or that person. I'm not going to be around you because you're friends with people in Log Cabin Republicans, which is a gay and lesbian association. You talk to gays and lesbians. That's what they'll say to me. Yeah, I do. And I talk to you, too. you're arrogant and refuse to talk to all of God's people. And so, and I've cut you guys out yet either that criticize me for it. It's like, you know, it's going forward and saying, yes, we're here to help the souls of humanity. We don't save them. God does. However, We are put here to do good works and never stop. Now, these people on this township board, I can tell you right now, who's driving the bus there, it's absolutely Satanists. No two ways about it. And you can see that when the money gets involved. I can see that when people come to me on the outside and start talking about, you got to raise money in the party, Brandon Berg, chairman of the Constitution Party in Michigan. Thank you. No, I don't. Because the minute that money gets involved in it, you've just absolved people of their involvement, of their learning. And I'll give you that. Sometimes people trade their time and their money to fund things. That's an okay thing to do. Okay. But there's a greater purpose involved in that. And it's getting people out of their little, I can't do anything. I'm not going to risk being in public. I'm not going to risk putting things out there. So I'll just put out a little bit and then I can sit back and not really be in the real fight. It's sort of like people that run around as Anons. I was in the Anon community for many, many, many years. I've had lots of pen names I've written under and things that I've researched under and such. I get it. And it was tough for me to come out publicly from being somebody who was used to operating behind the scenes. But you know what? It's the next stage of coming out of the cocoon. And everybody's going to have to come out of that cocoon. And I'm not saying that in an MK ultra butterfly nonsense thing. I'm saying that in the way that you're going to have to develop a little bit and get in the fight for real. And that means getting out there, being heard. and refusing to sit back and just lobbing bombs from the side. When you do that, there's no accountability for what you do. So if you make a mistake, people are going to continue to let you make the mistakes. There's no growth in that. When you're out there and people can lob bombs. I had something from a gal named Jennifer in this area that is a little upset with me for what I've said because the landscaping business that they're in, which is for profit, attached to what I perceive is self-interest or wanting things to grow for the business. And she was pretty hard on me in her text. And I applaud her for that. I'm going to call her today. If you're listening, Jennifer, I am going to call you today. I haven't had a lot of time. but I will always respond, especially to criticisms. I love that because that puts me to the test. But when you come out and you stand in front of people and you make your voice heard, that's when we move that Mississippi River that Chris is talking about and hold them accountable because it's not a fictitious person. It's not somebody who they can't talk to. It's somebody who's going to get right in their face and tell them what's going on. Exactly. I mean, I know that you guys are kind of in the fight with me here and seeing the absolute brutality that happens out there. Is it godly? Not at all. Not at all. And I think because... And I'm going to go with the spiritual aspect of this because you're hitting on everything basically that I'm talking about because you are the example of what we were talking about before we got on the show. Because A, you have God. B, God provides you with the hope. the hope of a person, a hope of one drop in the water can possibly change that course of the river. It can at least take a piece of it and that may change the outcome of where we're headed now. So if everybody went ahead and uh did that action pro-action like you're talking about that's what can move part of that river if only one person like yourself is doing it it may change a piece of that river because that river is wide but what if we all or or not even all of us what if a lot of us just like you were saying uh like on x uh years ago people wouldn't really talk that much in fear of getting a bad reaction from the masses that were in control the selfish which is satan like you said exactly satan's got or doesn't uh satan doesn't have control what he does is tries to interrupt the control of god because god is in control He's trying to manipulate that Mississippi River. So like I was saying about the destiny of things, God gave us free will. We have the will to make what we want our future outcome to be, but we are the ones that have to use the free will. Like you were saying also, if you don't use your free will and you sit back and you go, well, whatever's going to happen is going to happen. If we all had that attitude, then the Mississippi River would flow the way it wants, Satan would get his way, and shit's going to happen. Okay? But we can change it. we can really change the outcome of the future instead of looking at it in a negative way and saying, nothing's gonna change it. That to me is so wrong because like I was explaining about that drug addict girl, right? Okay, so her destiny or her path, it's about the path, like the path of the Mississippi. She's sitting there coming out. I picked her up. She's in this bad situation where she got caught doing drugs. Her mom kicked her out of the house. All her clothes, belongings. Mom doesn't want to have nothing to do with this. She sees her daughter on a destructive path. So what does mom do? Here, I'm throwing it all out of my life so I can never deal with it again. So mom's done. Mom's in a cocoon now, and she figures, well, I'm not going to do anything. Shit's going to happen the way it happens. Yep, there it is. It's right there. She's saying to herself, mom's saying, hopefully it'll work out. It may or it may not. So she's basically letting the Mississippi River, letting Satan... take that river on the course it takes and now she's putting the whole load on the back of her daughter if she would go ahead instead if I if I were let's say I was donna brandenburg sitting in that car giving her that cab ride to those two guys that her mom said go hang out with those people it is what it is okay so and if if on the way I were to turn around instead of saying like I said last night instead of saying Well, I hope everything works out, and I'll pray for you, and I just hope everything works out for you. And so her, again, that's not somebody changing anything. That's nobody interjecting on a positive matter and saying something that could possibly change her life. But I know I can't force her to change her life, but I can, through God, give her an interjection and say to her, Instead of what I said, I could have said to her, okay, so hear this. Right now, you're on a course. Whatever that course you took, you made a choice, free will. So you smoked whatever you smoked or drank or took, whatever. That made your mom angry. Your mom right now doesn't want anything to do with you. And you are sad because of the choice you made created the situation that your mom is in right now. You are hurting now, you told me, that your mom is hating you right now. But you're not doing anything to change the course you're on. You're just finding another place to live. You're crying out of selfishness. You're crying because you want to keep doing the drugs you want to do or whatever it may be. Let's say it's not drugs. Let's say you hit the dog and your mom didn't like that. So you have to change things about yourself in order for your mom to change the feelings that she has. And the only way you're going to do that is to completely, let's say it is that you beat the dog. so you love beating the dog so let's say you change that path and you say you know what I'm never going to beat that dog again or I'm never going to take drugs again and I'm going to change the people I hang out with because if I can't have to change that means I have to change my whole frame of thinking of the way I thought in the past I can use the past to change the future But I have to change. I have to be the one to do the things in order to make things good, in order to make mom never cry again, in order to separate myself from those that do bad things. Maybe by that, they'll see. By leading by that example, maybe that'll lighten their eyes and make them change. But right now, you're trying to help your mom And you reunite and create that love again. So if you do change your path, I know I'm being repetitive, and you stop doing what you're doing, you go back to your mom and you say, hey, mom, guess what? You were right. I'm humbling myself. I've changed my friends. I've changed the course of path I'm on. And you know what? To prove it? I'm going to say, I'll show you. I'll show you. To prove it, I'm going to show you. I'm going to be proactive in what I'm doing. So not only will I tell you, but I may show the neighbors. I may show your friends. I may show dad who's not living with us right now. But everyone's going to see because I'm doing the right thing now. People are going to look and see my change. Hold on. So in so doing, Hopefully mom will go ahead and accept me back. Mom will stop the crying. And now mom has hope that everything's going to work out for me. What I'm saying is the base root of, I think, what God would like to see is that we all use the hope he gave us. hope to go in the god's path and not to be go with the river because going with the river means you're going to shut up and not say nothing and just be in my own world no you're not in your own world you're in satan's world you just don't know it right not you but that I'm speaking about that that the big view right or any person that might be might be doing that so yes We all have to find our way through God, and if we do that, it might get us up off our ass. It might get another person to see, hey, if I change what I'm doing, maybe it will change the next person on and on and on. That's why when you gave the example about, let's say, people on X social media, you can see that when one person speaks say, the favor in God, the favor in the opposite of what's happening right now. Other people might have the guts to say something, which will give another person the guts to say something, and pretty soon you see A lot of people are banging on the same, are getting the guts to say the same thing, which doesn't mean people don't have guts. It just means that maybe they were deeper in that river than they thought. But that light is bringing them on top of that hill. Now they're talking. And so you see the river. Is not getting wide, it's getting more narrow, more narrow, and we're also a lot. We're changing the course of the river like we're doing right now in a way, but. Let's go in another direction here, Chris. Let's go in another direction with this a minute. And that goes to, I heard somebody this week talking, we were talking about all the nurses that gave the shots during COVID. And they were saying, they were trying to say, well, excuse their behavior. Well, you know what? I hate to say this. There were so many people. Yes, there are so many people that that just went along during the whole covid thing that it really exposed a lot of people's intentions right there. You cannot say if you violate, you know, it's like ignorance of the law is not excuse for it. Right. And that's happening all over the place. Well, this is the way it's always been done. This is the way that it works. You don't understand how many times I could hear that. I could just about, if I had a nickel for that, I'd be seriously rich, right? And so at any rate, the point being is that if all those people that were working within the government who know that it's bad, they're If they walked away, if the doctors and the nurses, and I know there was going to be a temporary problem there, but there was a bigger problem there too. All of these things that are breaking the law entities, the regulatory agencies, if everybody said, wait a minute, this is wrong. and just stopped. That goes with paying taxes. That goes with everything. If everybody said, I am literally funding murder by paying my taxes. I can't do it. I'm a conscientious dissenter because If everybody did it all at once, it would be over. Game over for these people, right? But honestly, if we had done that at the time, and I understand the justification for it. I'm glad there were nurses there during COVID because my one son probably would have died. OK, and that's just the way it is. And I'm kind of glad for that. But the point being is that is that God always and I mean always makes the way he always makes the way if you have faith in God, as long as you don't stop and you don't let despair. When you see despair, depression, demoralization, all those D words, devil, it comes from the devil, I'm telling you right now. As long as you keep going and just realize you're not always going to feel happy, happy, joy, joy all the time. You're going to be angry. That's okay. You're going to be disgusted by what you see. That's okay. All of these things that are negative, they've taught us that we've got to be happy all the time. You know, we've got to be happy all the time. I'm going to tell you what, the Boy Scout manual says, smile even when things are bad. You never let them see your pain. You never let them see what then, and they want to tell you, oh, talk your problems out. Tell everybody your problems. That's going to make you feel better. Where's that coming from? That teaches selfishness. You are right. It is because first of all, first of all, you know, you can go to a therapist, but how many therapists are actually working on the right side of things? I'd say not very many. Okay. It's a lot of that goes back to like, you know, you look at the active shooters. Who's giving them the psychotropic drugs and crap? It's like, who's giving them the drugs? Who's giving them what to say to people? Who has in fact moved the needle to increase this because these people are losing their freaking minds? It's the therapists and the social workers. Who stood down during COVID in their little cocoons of mental health superiority? It was the therapists and the counselors who had to step up and do their fricking job. The sheriffs were, the sheriffs were on suicide watch. The emergency doctors were taking care of people. They were handing out psych meds like Tic Tacs in a church pew. You're so right. And where the heck were the therapists? AWOL. Yeah. They weren't acting on God. They were acting on self. Where were the churches, too? AWOL. Freaking AWOL. Shutting their doors. There were some that kept it open. And then I'll go back to beating on the churches a little bit because it's kind of done with it. Jesus told us that the church would be apostate in the end. Guess what? I think we're here right now. Look at the churches. That's one of the first things. They're nothing more than, at this point in time, than state religion, the majority of them, shut down. For what? Their five of one C three status instead of standing there for God? Heck no. They walked away from it. And here's another thing. A lot of them are so self-righteous. They're like, you know, they've got everybody labeled. I don't want this group. I don't want that group in here. I don't want this group or that group, you know, and the first ones they usually pick on are, I don't want the gays or lesbians or the women or the men or the whatever. I mean, segment the market into five thousand little segments. and say what you don't want around you to uphold your little superiority by association. Well, guess what, guys? Got a problem with that because Jesus hung out with tax collectors and prostitutes. Right. He went into the hood. He ran right into the fire, and he came not to condemn but to save. And so what's the first thing you hear out of people that are in the piety contest? Oh, you know, I heard something from somebody lately that thinks it's really, that this is okay. Now I'm not a DeVos fan for a number of reasons, but this person said, oh, the DeVosses, they have a gay son. That's proof that they're evil. I'm like, really? That's proof that they're evil? I'm pretty extra sure that that's not proof of anything other than they're also, I have been subject to the evil in the world. I'm not going to blame them for that, okay? We have people, everyone out there has people around them that they love who have made choices that they probably wouldn't have made. You know what your son told me? I mean, didn't tell me. You know what your son taught me? Or should I say reminded me? Is that just what the basis of what you're saying. We were born with a good injection of sin. Okay? All of us. All of us. Okay? We're all different, correct? Well, guess what? That also means... And it's not going to change. We all have our own expression of evil. So you can't judge one evil from another because evil is evil. It's not one thing. It's not because you steal. It's not because you like to lie. It might not be because you're gay. It might not be because you killed somebody. Everybody is injected with sin. You cannot judge. That's God's job. What we're supposed to do is be an example of what Jesus did. We have to be able to accept what we have, and we have to be able to Understand it. And then do the right thing. Go right back to God. Because that's what God, I believe, wants. Well, here it is. Here it is. We can help each other. We can help each other along the path. Okay, the ultimate salvation comes from Jesus Christ. So but realizing that because we're flawed, we're so flawed, we're supposed to help each other. And sometimes that means to point out what we're doing, what we're doing wrong. And in what each other is doing wrong to get that to to help eliminate that sin. You know, if we just if we just keep going along and saying, oh, Sean's here. Hang on a minute. Sean's going to be back. Yeah, there's Sean. Hey, Sean, you're getting into a spiritual discussion here. We're going to talk about about. to hear about security and kind of got off on a rabbit trail, but that's okay. This is actual spiritual security. When you have people around you that care about you enough to say, hey, buddy, I love you. However, what you're doing is destructive to your own means. And that spiritual security comes. If you don't have that, first and foremost, the rest of your life is going to be completely and I mean, literally go to hell. And so, you know, when people point out that. you know, maybe, and I, and I love that. And I've got people around me that are sometimes pretty brutal when, when I'm not necessarily, or there's areas that I could improve on. Okay. And I love that because that means they really love me. They love me more than they love my opinion of the relationship. They'd rather throw the relationship than to continue letting me do things that are non-ideal. Does that make sense? Absolutely. Absolutely. Yeah, yeah, he does. You know, it's funny that you mentioned about the security because when you look up in scriptures, when Jesus is talking a lot about security, and security is not only just a spiritual thing, but it's a metaphysical thing. It is, it was something that that God had shown us through so many different situations about where does our security lie in life? What does that look like? And understanding the reality of how things really are. A lot of, a lot of people think that, you know, I spoke to that believe that Christians believe in this fairy tale and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, you know, and I always, you know, kind of refer back to them and say, well, and you know, where's, where's your security? I mean, you know, what's, what's, what would happen if this situation happened or that situation happened or whatever. And then I kind of dawn on me is that a lot of people just don't have the experience. They don't have the teachings. They don't have, it's almost like the spirit of common sense just left the younger generations for a reason. And, you know, I keep going back to what God says in the Bible. It says that just because we've accepted Jesus doesn't mean that we're not going to go through turbulent times, you know. You're forgiven. Or prevented, yes. Prevention is a pretty tough deal. Because here's the thing, prevention, it works in one of two ways. Like in the world of security that I work in, prevention is the key to all security success. So, and that being said, like, you know, we come back to is, you know, life is not about me. Life is about Jesus Christ. and those who rest in Christ are going to have that ultimate security. regardless and it doesn't matter what sin they've committed in life but if they've rested their life in jesus they've given up their sin for jesus their security is there right um but here's something else here's something that I've come across a lot is I've heard stories about where people had talked about you know well if I had still if I had uh rejected christ at this time in my life this is probably what would have happened you know um or I've heard stories of like miraculous stories where people have well cheated death you know um and we see is that when we read in the scriptures where it talks about our time on earth and God talks about the numbers of hair on our head, right? This is how he kind of numbers are days, right? So basically it's letting us know that our time on earth is very short, but it's what we do. One decision can change literally everything, but even through our whole time while we're here on earth, it is God's ultimate authority in the end when we die. He numbers our days. And I'm going to frame that a little bit because I've said the same thing, Sean. Nobody can kill me or us because they don't have the power to do that. It's God Almighty that numbers our days and knows when that last day is going to be. He's already got that in his sights here. So I can live life fearlessly. without fear of retribution or even doing the wrong thing just going out there and you know just just doing whatever needs to be done with no fear because if he wants to redirect it he will but but we don't need to be afraid I want to go to something that ralph said in the chat uh ralph are you there yeah yeah just been quiet good just a good discussion and so I didn't want to interrupt Well, I really think this is a critical discussion to have, like a substantially important discussion, because what keeps coming back to me, now I'm filing pro se lawsuits. This is a very difficult thing to do. I'm going to tell you that, okay? It's something I had no experience in, but jumped in and realized that the entirety of the bar is is a crime syndicate, just like the Republican Party, the Democrat Party. This is a crime syndicate you're looking at. They have no license to practice law. They committed a fraud upon the entire United States. The bar is a fraud. It is a fraud. And that goes to the judiciary because that is now a fraud entirely committed upon the United States. The legislature is a fraud committed upon the United States. Every single branch right now is a fraud committed upon the United States. filled with a bunch of usurpers. They took over the United States through usurpation and like a parasite would. They're all a bunch of parasites. They don't work for us. They work for the corporatocracy, which is a fraud and a crime syndicate. And so when you talk about this entire thing, so let's, let's just look at it this way. If you win something, you know, I ran into the, the pro se situation because I wanted to be able to see firsthand. I want to be a firsthand witness of what they're doing. I will go to places that other people are not willing to go into because I want to be a firsthand witness. And into groups. And, you know, in fact, one of my favorite groups was the Arabs for Trump that's over in Dearborn. I thought they were absolutely fantastic. I thought they were one. And everybody's like, oh, you don't understand Dearborn. I'm like going, I think I do. I think I do. because I didn't just read it in some social media nonsense out there with their little CGI crowd scenes and such. I actually show up. I actually showed up in DC and to talk about the fact that there was no fricking graffiti on the Lincoln Memorial. I was there. And who lied about it? Everybody. everybody's lying because they don't show up. They just have an opinion and a bias to push. It's all a show. It's all a show. So talk about your comment a minute, Ralph, about the courage and bravery. Yeah. Well, the, if the only fights that you ever take on are ones that you know that you can win, how is that courage or bravery? If you are willing to take on a fight that you know you're going to lose for the right reasons, or you take on a fight that there's a possibility you might lose, but you're still fighting for the right reasons, that, in my book, is courage. If you have no fear that you might lose, that's not courage. That's just going through the motions. And like being in the political realm, everybody says, oh, money, money, money by the pound. Let's have another fundraiser to have another fundraiser and we can party our ever living behinds off. That's all they're doing. They're not changing a thing. And sometimes taking on a fight that you taking on the possibility of self-sacrifice in a fight that you might lose. sometimes that fight in and of itself accomplishes goals because it lets, it lets whoever you're fighting know that they are not able to just get away with whatever they want to do without having some accountability. Hang on. I'll be right back. I think I just had a coffee mishap. Keep going. Ralphie, Ralphie, Ralphie. How's it going? Good. No, I was just, I was just listening. I didn't want to interrupt. You guys were kind of on a roll there, and it was a good conversation. But yeah, that was kind of my thought on that, is that some people will only take on a fight if it is absolutely guaranteed what the outcome is. Well, somebody already had to set that up for you to be able to win that fight. That wasn't your doing. That wasn't anything that, you know, if you were going to win regardless, what was the point of getting into the fight? Somebody already won it for you. So if you take on a fight, you know, like against, for example, some of Donna's fights with various public functionaries, they know at this point they've got a pending lawsuit against them. They may have more than one pending lawsuits against them. They don't know the outcome of those. They know that they are, you know, in chess terms, they're in check. And so now they kind of have to think about what they're doing in other actions because if they can get taken, if they're not invincible and they can potentially get taken to task for something and they could potentially lose this fight, That can make a huge impact. Even if an individual case goes one way or another and it doesn't go perfectly, it doesn't really matter because just having that threat out there can also accomplish goals. That's called integrity. Okay. I agree. I agree. You know, when somebody, I was talking to somebody yesterday, and they brought up, we were reading the Declaration of Independence, the Constitution, and it says in the Constitution, three separate but equal branches of the government. And I was like, wait a minute. How is it? I mean, we know they're separate, but how is there equal branches? because the president or executive branch, we have an election every four years for the executive branch and there's term limits. There's just two terms. But in Congress, you can vote these people in without any kind of term limits. The Sixteenth Amendment was ratified behind closed doors, though it wasn't an actual legitimate passing of the Sixteenth Amendment. And then we've got the Supreme Court. Nobody votes the Supreme Court justices. They have lifetime appointments. So where does the actuality of the three separate but equal, right? How are they equal? And I was talking to this person, and they said, well, that's a good question. And they couldn't say, well, they are equal, because in reality, they're not, because they're There's no term limits. Most of them don't have, well, like the Supreme Court, we can't, we the people can't vote to Supreme Court justices. So, but then once you see that, then you start to understand like the depravity. of how the government's been functioning and operating for so long um and this is not something new it's just I think we're in the age of awakening where we start to show all of the wheels on the train and more and more people look at it and we kind of come together and say okay how do we take this train off the tracks and We don't even need the train. That's the thing, is that in its current form, what are we paying for this service contract for? We are getting no benefit. None. Zero. Zip. Nada. And it's like we're just like slaves in the machine right now. That's it. And if we're paying taxes or doing anything to contribute to it, honestly, what we're doing... We're by our acquiescence to their unlawful taxation. We're literally paying for the murder of other human beings. Except... Wardrobe change. Oh, you guys are so wrong. Because I got a cell phone and new roads. Well, to your point about... You guys, Ralphie, you guys don't even get rose. To your point about the separation of powers, though, that's one of the reasons why I contend that, you know, people will say that the United States is a republic. And I contend that we have lost a lot of the characteristics of it being a republic. We have gotten dangerously close to it being a direct democracy. And part of that is the breakdown of the separation of powers. We're not supposed to be direct voting for the president. We're not supposed to be direct voting for the national level of the Senate. There are different channels for how those are supposed to be elected, those offices, so that there's a bit of a time delay. And the way that the separation of powers is supposed to work there is that Someone wants to propose a law. Okay, great. Has to go through the legislature. The judicial branch and the executive branch can't pass laws unilaterally. So it has to go through the legislature. Well, okay. They want to vote on all of that. It can still get turned down at the executive branch. The executive branch can veto it. And so that can be turned down there. then it can get bounced back to the legislature to put a check on the veto power. If both of those branches still go against what's in the interest of the people and against the Constitution, the judicial branch can strike down that law. And if all three of those fail, you've still got the people... that through jury nullification can also eliminate a bad law. And so you've got, as it's designed, all three branches really are supposed to be kind of in opposition to each other. They're not supposed to be working together. They're supposed to be working against each other to pick out the flaws in things and put a stop to anything bad. And that breakdown of that security feature is one of the problems that we've gotten ourselves into of why there is so much corruption. We have agencies that run entirely within the executive branch that are attempting to portray themselves as being able to regulate we the people without having passed a law to do that. They're making law from within those agencies and the judges are making law, the regulatory agencies are making law, which they have no real force of law now with the Chevron reversal and such. But we had to wake up to how to battle these guys and say, you don't have any force of law behind what you say. Just because you say it doesn't mean it's so. And that goes to the ordinances in the townships. These township ordinances are absolutely crap. And it's a usurpation. And they flipped it on everyone and then put useful idiots in place. I can't tell you how many times I've been in front of a township board that says, well, we're just normal people. We don't know the law. And I'm like, clearly you don't know the law. It's kind of like the idea of the way that nuclear missiles had to be launched is you had to have the consent of more than one person to be able to launch that so that you had a check on the other person. And that's why we're supposed to have those guard features, those security features against basically hacking within our own government. And a lot of those security features have been intentionally destroyed. and that's why we have redundancy and I think that what you guys are really hitting on is that congress legislation all that stuff that's not supposed to be their responsibility we're the ones that are supposed to create the laws we're the ones that are supposed to say hey can we do this in this community or can we can we make can we do this and can we put this into law then like what uh he said were and then the legislation is supposed to look at our power okay that we don't have and they're supposed to say this isn't too bad except we could change this and uh because this makes it good for everybody So let's put that back to the representatives. Let's have the representatives give that back to the people that first created this, and let's see if they'll go along with this. And then if they do by majority, then they go back to the legislation, they put it into law, and then it goes up the chain. And according to what you were just talking about, Ralphie, uh redundancy that's what redundancy is all about as far as the missiles and stuff like that it's for the security of not making a mistake um that's all that is all that's my opinion of it We're the ones that are supposed to have the power, not them. We're the ones that are supposed to create the laws. There'd be a whole lot of fewer laws than if they were given the power to create the laws because that's what Donald was saying when everything kind of flipped. it went from we the people to the government tells us what the laws are the government goes ahead and makes themselves raises and we're the ones that have to eat it we're the ones that have to pay for them they put themselves on a pedestal and we are the serfs we are the servants we are the slaves we are financial slaves and we are regulated by a communist government and if we do not do as they say then we go to jail we get prosecuted we're the ones that don't have the money to get ourselves out of trouble but they do have you ever have you ever thought about this that okay so so roughly sean chris and I are the same age And I'm going to say that when we were kids, do you remember hearing about Russia and how long it took to get anything through the government or get anything done? And I remember looking at that going, wow, that sounds just horrible. I was going down the street the other day driving through this sham construction zone that they've got put up here. And looking at how they all protect each other and such and how a normal American citizen has, we have no redress of grievance. It isn't even possible anymore. They're not listening to us and they just say no and then they stop or they get their little fake bar attorney there to start yapping his little fraudulent mouth and tell him what the rules are. And they were like, like John Thelma did, he just gaveled out and he just walked off. He won't even talk to us. And it's like that is what's happening across this entire nation. We are not being listened to. They have total contempt for us. But that doesn't just go from our elected officials. That goes for our fellow Americans who have sold this country out for money, power, and influence. They're not even in the offices, and people are doing it. How many people have sold out land next to the military bases to China? How many people have sold out land or enabled them to put in say like solar panels or wind farms or sold out to these large corporate farming enterprises? I mean, come on. When you're selling out to something like that, you're guilty. You've sold out America. It's not just the ones buying it. It's the ones who sold it. Taking the pieces of silver. They took the pieces of silver. And everyone in our individual capacity has to really think about this. And you know what? It's amazing how many people... How many people out there don't see that falling into bed with these political parties that have taken the money or the candidates that have taken the money? There is an exercise in it. You win when you absolutely win. Every single time, maybe not in the eyes of people who worship the material world. However, you win in God's eyes. And those are the only eyes that matter. If you stand to the end against all odds, against all threats, against all things that come against you to knock you down and people's disapproval and that sort of thing, you win when you take a stand and you refuse to budge. Yeah, you know, it's just like yesterday, I was doing a little research and I found out that ninety eight percent of all civil cases, including criminal cases, are oftentimes litigated outside of the courtrooms. They're all money judgments that they are in the courtrooms because they take they take about eighteen percent and that goes to all of the retirement funds and Benny packages. I'm going to grab some more coffee. Keep talking, guys. And a lot of the criminal ones now take plea deals, and so the verdict is for something completely different than the actual case is. Yeah, and that's the thing is, you know... Like when my son got into trouble some years back, and I was trying to get him counsel, and I said, you know, I will, well, number one, I will find you an attorney. Number two, you're going to tell the police that you do not want to speak to them until a lawyer is present, and that's all you're going to say. But what happened was they used the intimidation tactics, is what they did, and they got him to plead to a deal. which really kind of hurt him financially in the long run. So this is, and I, you know, I kind of sat on that and I thought about it for a long time. I thought, you know, how many other people are, are being abused, abused by the system this way, you know. And when I went back and looked at the statistics, it was just really disgusting about how much power and abuse has been given. But what's even more concerning is how people just kind of fall in line, you know, this whole get along to get along, you know, kind of a mentality. And You know, I guess for years since, you know, since the nineties, I've had a pretty rebellious spirit when it comes to the government because nothing the government ever says. is always true and the vast majority of it is mostly lies but um then again you know when I when I come to this argument with a liberal or even in another conservative I say you know I always ask them I said who produces you got the people and you've got the government who produces And they, when it comes to the context of understanding is government doesn't produce anything. Courts don't produce anything. They produce nothing. They're just like, you know, Donna was saying, they're like leeches. They just suck, keep sucking and keep sucking until you're dry. You know, how many people, you know, really understand this? Now, if we go back and look at, you know, let's look at the generations, okay? Back in the nineteen hundreds, you know, we had the silent generation. They were called the silent generation for a reason. And that's because of all of the banking, the private banking industry saw an opportunity. They went through Woodrow Wilson and they got Woodrow Wilson to essentially sign off and sell America as a whole to the private banking corporations. Okay. And so we had this silent generation then. They should have had the rebellion spirit. They should have rose up and told Woodrow Wilson, We're going to overthrow the government because at this point, you sold us all out. You were a traitor. And they didn't. Instead, they went along to get along. And what happened from that is we got stuck in this financial slavery since. Nineteen thirteen. And but this goes back to eighteen seventy when it really started to start when the whole thing started. But we're now. And so we're now at this point where we know the people need to understand, OK, what can we do? How can how can we deal with this? I mean, how can we put an end to this? And I think that's the kind of the spiritual discussion that we're talking about as sheepdogs. We're fighting this demonic spirit that has overtaken our government for over about a hundred and thirteen years. How do we defeat them? And I think that's the thing that the people are looking to, because where do we start? Where do we go? Yeah, and proof of what you just said, it goes back to the plea deal. Plea deal, that's not justice. That's a negotiation of justice. Justice is justice. You cannot negotiate it. You can't make a deal. especially out of court or in court a plea deal is compromising justice therefore what they are really doing is they're negotiating how much money they can get from you that will be enough to spread it around to pay everybody equally except for you that's the plea deal It's the shut-up money that they're doing. It's all to shut people up. No, no, no, no, no. It's a payment to shut people up and make them stop fighting. Hang on a minute. Keep going, guys. Yeah, you're right. You're right. It's a continuous money grab. And you're also right. Woodrow Wilson went ahead and did what he did. And what if, not that they went along to get along, but what if they were all part of that? That's why they didn't say anything, because they knew ahead of time. Because Woodrow Wilson just didn't get up one morning and say, hey, I think I'm going to screw the country and get with the banks. No, it was a collusionary thing. That's why no one said anything because everybody, all the politicians, all the money grabbers, all of the occult, all of the Rothschilds and all of them, that was a move to further enslave us even more. It's more of a lockdown. It's like closing the door to the jail, which at this point is almost closed and we need to get that door back open again. Yeah. Yeah, I agree. I mean, I think that, you know, With the internet nowadays, we have the potential to really just turn things around if we want to. There's some people on X, for example, like Laura Loomer, who's exposing um you know certain people within trump's administration that are I like to call the holdovers from you know the the biden the obamas and things like this um but more importantly you know one of the things I I guess I've been trying to do is um uh trying to write pieces on x to just kind of educate people on uh the truth you know I I'm trying to expose the wheels on the train so to speak so people can look at it and go wow this is this is much bigger than I realized you know and we need to be focused on is how do we take the wheels off the train so this train can't go anymore and they can't continue to to continue to be leeches, right? Obviously. And they can't continue to abuse the American people. I mean, if... if you think about it, you know, what it took for the founding fathers who were, you know, uh, British citizens, uh, you know, that were colonists and, uh, the, the level of abuse that had occurred at that time, um, the, the big, uh, I would say the big pivotal point from what I can see was the Boston massacre of the six hundred farmers. Um, you know, you had Paul Revere, um, you had, um, Samuel Adams and a few others they had gone down to the south and said see the farmers down there hey this is going to happen to us this is going to happen to you eventually and we need to get together we need to stop squabbling over the crumbs and we need to look at this together as a whole and say we got to put a stop to this abuse and we need to do it as soon as possible because if we don't support one another now in the end we're going to be the ones that our future generations are going to be the ones that are going to continue on being they're chipping away at us one at a time it's like byron township and the water wars that we have here and across the state It's not just here. It's all across the state. But because people have lost track of the thing that, you know, it's not in my backyard. You know, it's not going to affect me. I'm only going to do what affects me. That's the mindset of most people. If there's nothing for me, I'm not going to help anyone. That's the mindset. And I really think that the biggest threat we have right now is that they weaponized the American people against itself. It's a captured asset for the globalists right now. Now, there's some of us that are awake, and I'm going to say that probably the majority of the people that are watching here today are already awake and kind of have a pretty good idea of what's going on. But there's so many people out there that have no clue that they just keep going along. I'm going to take my kids to school today and put them in the indoctrination camps. And then I'm going to go buy the poison food from the grocery store. And then I'm going to go. It is the lack of being able to see things for what they are and realize that. the the threat that's at our doorstep and this goes into a real real big flaw that human beings have human beings have a bunch of big big flaws and they understand us better than we do most of the time. And that's our need to go back to the familiar. And it was really highlighted in the Bible with Lot's wife. And I've talked about it quite a few times. It wasn't Sarah. It's historically accepted as Sarah, but they never really called her name out. And there's several names that will come up as probably the more likely name. And it usually starts with a B. So, you know, like Berta, it's not Berta, but it's a different type of a name. And so, but what she did was when they said, don't look back, she turned into a pillar of salt. Now, some people think it's a literal pillar of salt as a punishment, but there's also a thought out there. And Ralph and I have talked about this many times that what it really is, is it's looking back and becoming salty or kind of worthless for growth. When you have salt around a farm, you're going to kill the plants. You're going to kill the animals if it's too much, right? You cannot have on anything that has growth. You have salty soil, you're not going to grow anything but crap, okay? That's just the way it is. So when we look back at our lives and things that we wish, oh, you know, we reminisce, we have these things. that we love to look back at and say, oh, I remember the good things, right? And we romanticize it a lot of times. We romanticize what happened in the past. You've got to continue to look forward and don't look back because you're looking at an illusion, and that illusion is being manipulated by emotions. Yeah. You can't base your life on that. You've got all these experiences to give you some knowledge to make decisions now. It's good and bad because some of it's good because of experience and some of it's bad because of the biases and the programming we have. But if we're trying to hold on to the material world that we worship, we've got a problem because we can never go into the glorious future that God has planned for us. Yeah. Well said. Go ahead. so we're the biggest the biggest threat right now is freaking an uneducated indoctrinated we the people we've got to do it this way this is what politics looks like this is how we earn money we've got to have that money stamped on our face and base everything in our life on money accomplishments ego all these things we've got to leave that and grow up And, too, that view of looking back is a very, very short-sighted view of nostalgia. And it actually kind of brings to mind a little bit one of the main themes of the animated movie Moana, in that the main character kind of rediscovered her past and From not like her personal past, but her culture had moved away from its historical practices of exploration in favor of sitting in one very comfortable spot as destruction was coming upon them. And the main character kind of rediscovered that, no, this isn't the way that our culture always was. We used to be explorers. We used to be brave. We used to go out and do things outside of our small little bubble here. But everyone now only remembers this bubble because it has been that way for just a very short period of time. And they've forgotten our past. And we kind of see the same kind of thing in that if you look back at history, yeah, there might be a small time there that you can be nostalgic about that that's what you want to go back to. But that time was only made that way because you look a little bit further back than that and you had people fighting to make that the way that it was so that there could be peace. And it's kind of a history repeats itself kind of thing in that, you know, the you've got the. uh, weak men create bad times and bad times create strong men and strong men create good times and then good times create weak men that, you know, that kind of cycle that's become a meme lately. It, there's a lot of truth to that. And that once we start getting comfortable, it really does kind of breed the same conditions that brought about the, uh, changes that made those good times possible and we're kind of getting into that again where the hardships I think are going to start you know we're going to have to start fighting for our rights here not not in a physical way at the moment you know that's why we're we're fighting as hard as we are right now in a political sense is to keep it from becoming a physical conflict because a physical conflict is a failure of diplomacy so we're we're fighting for that in a diplomatic sense right now and god forbid it goes further than that because that would be a failure of ours but yeah That's the way that it's happened in the past is that you've had these cycles of hardship creates these times that we're now in those times where we have to be fighting for our rights. Well, it is a kinetic war already. I mean, look at the shot. You know, think about even the words that they use. We're getting shot. with the vaxxers. Think about it. They're telling you right there what they're doing. And I think this is the kind of a fun thing to get into is that I have some friends that are really into words and entomology and such. And when you take the word evil and flip it around, it says live. When you look at the words and you look at where things are, how they explain them, town, ship, And that sort of thing. Break the words down and look into the words, and you're going to see some meanings that you may never even thought of, right? But they tell you, but they flip it around. They flip it all around. Evil, live. They're taking from you, Donna. They're taking from other wells and water right now, and they're doing it out of greed for money and stuff, and also to enslave you more. This government that's presently in Michigan is a tyrannical government. what they're doing because a good example of that is they're taking what's yours from you. So if you were to go to the town meeting and put it up like a wall and say, you know what? You guys are taking from us. You're stealing from us. You guys are not for the people. You are for yourselves, which is proof because you are taking the water from us. You cannot deny that. That's called tyranny. You cannot deny that. And you're taking from me. You're taking from others. And guess what? You don't know this or not, but they're going to take from you, the council board. the people that you're supporting right now, that you're in agreement with, guess what? You're a useful idiot. They're going to take from you when your job is done from taking from us because communism works that way and you don't get it. Well, and think about this too. One of the reasons why we have the prohibition against quartering troops, if you look at the basis for why that came about, It was because the British, as punishment for anyone who would stand up against them, one of the things that they would do is quarter troops with, you know, if you've got a farm, they would quarter troops with you. Which meant that you had to host them in your house. You had to feed them. You had to water them. And effectively it was a way of making the burden on you just to survive so large that you couldn't fight back against them. It was a way of doing an extrajudicial punishment to make it so that you were ineffective at what you were trying to do. So when we had the prohibition against quartering troops, that was effectively just a way of prohibiting having the government be overly burdensome on anyone who would stand up to them. Well, what do we have now? You, you, you have people who are afraid to speak up because, well, they don't want to speak up at a township level because so many of the people on the township boards are also on the school boards and it might affect their children. You know, you've got that retaliatory threat there. And that was, That was precisely what the prohibition on quartering troops was all about preventing. Yep. It's a legal way. They're using the legal system to quarter you, to force you to aid and abet the quartering. Yeah. If that makes sense. Yeah, and it's going on. You know, what I see at the township meetings or at any of the meetings that I've been at, most people are so afraid that if they speak up, that there's going to be retribution on them, their homes, or that somebody's going to file a lawsuit against them for speaking out or on and on and on. that they won't say anything. So they sit there just quiet as they're getting, as they're getting absolutely beaten by these people beaten down. And it's really sad. And like the disenfranchisement of the voters, our entire country is disenfranchised right now, but we, Nobody knows what to do about it because they have backed themselves into a defensible position with the courts, with the law enforcement, with everything. I mean, if you've ever been attacked by law enforcement that is there to shut you down, not to uphold the law, It can be a very, very intimidating situation. Very intimidating. And if you don't know the law, your legal rights, because you haven't studied, because you've been in all the indoctrination camps, guess what? We all were. We've all had to come out of that system. We're no different. It's just that we've gotten a chance to be a little bit educated of it. We're no better than anybody else. We're in the same boat. We just refuse to sit down. And so like when the Don Tillman called the sheriffs on me at the last council meeting that we were at, well, it was the one before that, I guess. And they called the sheriffs on me. I literally gave the sheriffs, read them their rights and their duties and challenged them. Because you've got standing to do this. You've got standing to challenge the courts. If everybody went in there pro se and papered them to death, it's like it would be unbelievable the turnabout we'd say. But everybody's like, oh, I got to talk to an attorney. I've got to do it this way and that way. No, you just got to have the guts to do it. Yeah. Yeah, so much of our society has been conditioned on the idea of convenience, where you could just pick up your phone and just, you know, you can go to this, you go to that, or you can order this online, or you don't have to leave your house. You can have everything delivered to you. I mean, this is like this conditioning, which was propelled even more so in mentally they've been so beat down to the point where they just surrender to the idea of convenience. And when that happens, and then all of a sudden we've now got a nation of people who just are afraid to, to, to even stand up and to say the right thing, you know, regardless of they win or they don't win. They just, it's just that, that fear that's been put over them. Um, It's kind of like what Stalin, you know, when Stalin first came into power, he had assembled his generals and his councilmen, and he says, I'm going to show you what my Marxism ideas and how this is going to work. So what he did was he did a literal example of this. He picked up a chicken, a live chicken, and he plucked all of the feathers off of this chicken while this chicken was live, right? Yeah. So this chicken is this bloody mess and he puts this chicken down on the ground. As soon as that chicken starts to walk away, what does he do? He pulls out of his pocket a grain of seed and he puts it on the ground. And guess who came running back? That chicken came back to that feed. Why? Because that's the thing that's most comfortable for them. And. This is exactly what we're seeing that has happened in this country and is still happening today, where the government basically comes in and starts taking all your stuff, but then they come back and they give you niblets just to keep you satisfied enough so you won't stand up and say anything. You won't take them to court or you won't challenge them in other ways. And This is something that the founding fathers, they understood very, very well during their time, what the British government was doing to them. And they got to a point like like history, like Ralph says, history does repeat itself. But it did get to a point where they said, OK, well, we've tried diplomacy, we've tried this, which we've literally tried everything. It's not working. And so we're going to have to effectively go to war with Britain. It's not that we want war, it's because it's necessary. And when it becomes necessary, at that point, that's when the people tend to win. And the reason being is because when everybody starts to realize that, you know, you're never going to be in your comfort zone at this point because they're just giving you niblets. You're barely surviving. So what's the point of barely surviving when you could be really doing well in life? And so when they realize this and they start coming together, and forming a strategy, okay, this is how we got to do it, and start putting things in motion, that's when we're going to start to see a real effective change. Well, it's like Trump said, you know, you elected me into office to basically check off all these things on this list. But he also reminded us, he said, I'm just one man. I can't do this alone. I need all of you, you know. And I think that's kind of like the Paul Revere or time waking us up and say, Hey, okay, you know, we need to take, we need to take physical action. We need to get comfortable with the idea of being uncomfortable and doing the things that are required of us that we're not used to doing. And when we learn to do this and it becomes a habit, we are unlearning all of the indoctrination that we were taught by these Marxists, as I like to call them, then we can go forward and unite this country in a way that's never, hasn't been done since the Look at what happens with people criticizing what's going on right now. And I don't agree with everything that I'm seeing, but I think there's more to the plan. But what's really been shocking to me is how fast people abandoned President Trump. And I had a feeling this was going to happen at the election. I literally cried the day he won. And I was like, I'm glad he won. However, my heart was so sad because I'm like, and now everybody's just going to go home and go back to their little instant gratification, purpose, purposeless life and say, go president Trump, go and sit on the sidelines. Like it's a sporting event. And he took, you know, when everybody in him took the, took the spears and the arrows. Oh, that's too bad. Look at how he's reacting. He's reacting poorly. I don't approve that kind of stuff. It's like, did you get in the game or did you just sit there like the league of critics and armchair quarterbacks or barracks barristers who think they know everything, but never do anything, but tell everybody else what to do. Well, and to your point about having society so much revolving around convenience, you know, the thing about it is that's a double-edged sword because there is an awful lot of these systems that they've set up to entrap us, which I've said it before, I'll say it again, you know, whenever possible, use your enemy's tools against them. And a lot of these things are really come in full circle in that these data systems that they've developed to surveil us and all of these things that they've developed to try to burden us, they can't escape it themselves because they've tried to make it as complete as possible to build up a profile on every single one of us to try and control us. They've left so much data on themselves, on what they've done, and on their culpability in crimes, it's not even funny. So the question is, are you going to pick that up and do something with it? Or are you just going to let them use their weapons against you without ever using those same tools? Yeah. Just sitting there complaining and whining about things. It just doesn't, doesn't make a difference. I mean, everybody's got an opinion and it, you have to be a doer. You've got to get in the game and do something, you know, here's, here's something when, when, when I get handed something bad and I, I'm sure Satan knows my MO very, very well on how I react to things. The first thing that once I get over being, this is my process. Once I get over being just really just get my grumbling out like a bear that's had, you know, had water thrown in his face after hibernating for the winter, right? I'm Come out of the cave. The next thing after I get that all burned out of my system is to go do something nice. Now, I learned this years ago that we only have a couple of offensive weapons. And one is quoting scripture. You start quoting scripture and putting it out there. And God takes every bit of our effort and multiplies it. Put it out there. Put it into the world. Be the light in the world. The other thing is prayer. Start praying for whoever is the worst defeat to Satan. Someone who is doing the wrong thing. Like, oh, yeah, the enemies or the people that are in the township right now that are absolutely demon-possessed because they're so focused on money. Pray for someone who has a visible problem that is demonically controlled, okay? Throw a few spears into Satan's back with that. You can do that with prayer. The other thing you can do is you can go out with every evil act they do, counter that by doing ten, twenty, a hundred more good acts. Let it be a motivation and that if somebody comes up and they're going to try to hit you or knock you down, you do the exact opposite. Run right into the fire and do that. that many more good acts, and overcome darkness with light. And that's, you know, today, you know what my thing today is going to be? Because I woke up this morning, I was real pissed about that denial by the judge, okay? I was real pissed about it because it's kind of an open and shut case. But the emergency injunction still stands. And so you know what I'm going to do today? I'm going to go out and buy a bunch of flowers, and I am going to randomly pass them out to people that I come across. Just randomly pass them out and tell them that God loves them and that they're cared for. I've done it in the past. I'm going to do that today. Every once in a while I'll pick something up that's just random acts of kindness and just go, just get in there and hammer away. And the darkness flees. When you call upon the name of Jesus Christ, the enemy, Satan, flees. You don't have to sit there and just be kicked in the face by this little gutless worm that's out there. He's a little gutless worm with no power unless we give him power. Jesus said it is finished. It is finished. Yes, and he also said not to worry. Why are you worrying? I mean, God feeds the birds. And they don't reap or sow for anything. So why are you worrying? Don't you think that you're going to be fed like they are? Don't you think God cares about you too? Don't worry. And here's that growth moment. This is the Brandenburg growth moment. What I need to work at is when somebody kicks me in the face like that, not just to go... even for a few minutes, like the judge's order, okay? And say, okay, God, you have a plan. I don't know what the plan is. However, I'm giving this out of my realm to you and not try to hold on to this, which I need not to do anyway, and let you run the game, you know, the play. and then watch what he does. It just takes me a little bit to get there once in a while, because I absolutely hate seeing actions of bad guys. It drives, it is one of those things that eternally will probably make me pissed off. I just don't like seeing bad guys do the wrong thing or failing to care, or even sometimes good guys that just sit back in apathy. I'm just like, I get grumbly about it because I don't like to see it. I don't think it's altogether bad, honestly, because it's sometimes a motivation to get us off our behinds to do the right thing. But honestly, I probably should just skip the step and just go straight to God and go, okay, what do you want me to do instead of letting it even for five seconds get to me? So I have growth, and I know it. We all have growth, and that's okay. It's okay to admit that. Amen to that. And God knows that we are in our own rights, children that are going to fall. He knows that we are imperfect. He's going to pick us up whenever we do something that could be better executed or, you know, and on our part, then he'll say, well, you kind of failed in that one, but that's okay. I love you. You're cute anyhow. Boom, get back on your feet and walk again. And I'll be here. You're going to probably falter a little bit once in a while and not quite make all the decisions you should make. And but as long as you're trying, I will keep you from falling and set you back on the path. And and that's that's part of it's like think about a toddler learning to walk in the spiritual world. We're learning to walk. I like that. Nice. And he's not condemning us. We're his children. He's like, okay, get back on your feet, you little rascal. I know you're going to get it this time. And, you know, and holds us. And then if we fall and skin our knee a little bit, he's going to pick us up and dry our tears and let us get over there. whatever it may be and then say okay you can do this go ahead keep walking I believe in you because you believe in me we're going to do this together and you know and it's going to be okay but it is a process for sure yeah that's you know that's a part of the faith and works that jesus talks about um You know, he says having faith without works is dead. And what he means by that is just having faith in that, you know, that God's going to fix this. Okay. All by himself. Well, know god's gonna send he sends people in our lives like there's been people that have come into my life that were just there for but a short time but they were there for a very pivotal pivotal reason they were like that rock that was thrown into the stream that changed the direction of the flow of the water um so I believe that you know when we you know go to him seek him for guidance and and continue to have faith in him but I think that we should you know keep moving forward and keep moving in the direction that he wants us to go um you know what is our calling what our gifts are and how do we utilize this and how do we um yeah are we not supposed to be the body of christ right right and not a dead body a living body right yeah Supposed to be getting out there and doing what we're directed to do. You know, he calls us to do something. By golly, you better do it. You know, there's a plan there. You don't need to know the whole plan. Yeah. You just need to know that that is your part of the plan that you're supposed to do. So by golly, you better go do it. So I'm writing. I'm writing. I decided to write something. start doing some writing on spiritual truths and put it into sort of an allegory. I've been reading the World of Many Tongues and then the second chapter. You guys want to hear my story? Sure. Okay. Because this is honestly where I think everybody is. Everybody asks all the time, who do you follow? Jesus. That's it. Okay. I'm trying to walk with God here. And if I can walk with God, I know I'm on the right path. Do I follow any of you guys? Any of you guys or anybody out there? A hundred percent? No, absolutely not. You know, we're all a bunch of brothers and sisters and we're all kind of like a little bunch of little kids going through life. Right. And we make mistakes. Sometimes we get things right. Sometimes we help each other, but you follow the one, the one and only perfect. So the next chapter that I've written out in this is from the world of many tongues. The Traveler and the Crossroads of Comfort, which really goes on with what we were talking, which kind of surprised me because I wrote this a while back. And so I'm just brought it to mind and I'm like, I'm going to read the story. And this is my next story. In the world of many tongues where paths wove like threads through a boundless dream, the traveler pressed on seeking the eternal city. Their satchel sagged with memories, joys like faded flowers. fears like sharp stones. Above, the guiding star pierced a fog of voices, its light a quiet promise of God's truth. The traveler's heart yearned for the city, though its gates remained a whisper in the distance. They came to a crossroads where countless paths sprawled like roots of an ancient tree. Some were wide, smooth as worn leather, others narrow, tangled with thorns. The fog thickened. heavy with a murmur of old ways. The pathkeeper stood before the gate of polished stone, their voice soft as a lullaby. Walk here, they sang, pointing to the broad road, its stones gleaming with a tread of countless feet. This is the way, it's always been, safe, sure, eternal. The traveler's satchel hummed, stirring memories of familiar comforts, old quarrels held tight, routines, warmth, as a hearth, their feet edged toward the gate, heart lulled by the promise of ease. Then the echo, a shimmering shape with the traveler's own face, its voice plucked from the satchel, stay where you know, it wept, then laughed, remembered the safety of sameness, the sting of challenge, the words woke thorns in the traveler's heart. fear of losses, joys of old habits. The wide road beckoned, its smooth stones whispered of peace without effort. Yet the traveler paused, eyes traced the path's curve. It looped back on itself, a circle without end, far from the eternal city's glow. Their heart ached, caught between comfort and truth, A faint light flickered through the fog, drawing them to the narrow path, its edges sharp with thorns. There stood a seer, a guide, their eyes clear as pools, holding a lens that caught the star's glow. Look through truth, they whispered as operating the glass. The traveler peered through and the fog parted. The wide road stones crackled, its peace a shadow, its love a husk built on habit, not heart. Through the lens, the star sang of deeper gifts. Peace that steadied, love that mended, wisdom that lit the way. Words rose in the traveler's soul, soft as a prayer. You will know the truth, and the truth will set you free. The thorns gleamed, not with menace, but with promise. The shadow slithered close, its voice a hiss in the fog. Truth is sharp, comfort is kind. Stay with the known. The traveler's satchel trembled, its weight pulling like an anchor. Old biases, familiar pains. They clutched the lens, gazing at the star, and prayed for courage. The light grew. A song of wisdom drowned the shadow's whisper. The traveler stepped onto the narrow path. Thorns brushed their cloak, but not breaking their stride. The satchel felt lighter. its stones questioning, its flowers left to fade. The eternal city lay beyond the horizon, still a mystery. New paths branched from the crossroads, some smooth, some wild, each whispering its own tongue. The traveler walked on. The wise one's lens tucked close, the star's steady gaze above. They passed, voices chanting the old ways, others crying for fleeting comforts, but now they listened with a heart tuned to truth. In the quiet, God's presence warmed them, a peace deeper than the wide road's ease, a love stronger than the echo's call. The journey stretched on, a prayer in every step, a song in every silence. So I'm working on my book right now. Very nice. Kind of fits though, doesn't it? And that was random because that was created quite a while ago, actually. I was looking. That was the first draft. I've got another version of that. I should have gone farther into the text there, but I stopped at that one. But you know what it means. I made some improvements. Yeah, that's nice. But the point being is that we're all travelers right now. And we are in the world of many tongues. Everybody's yapping at us. Go my way, my truth, my words, who I hang out with and such. You've got to reject all of it and stop and listen to God's word because everybody's created so uniquely. You have your own path. You just have to ask God to give you the feet to walk it. And he will. I had a conversation, uh, not too long ago with a friend about, he was saying that he was criticizing people for voting a certain way because he said they thought they were going to vote a certain way and it was going to create hardship for people that they didn't like. But now that they voted that way, they're realizing that it's creating hardship for them as well. And boy, you sure don't hear them being proud of who they voted for now. And, and I had to bring up that, you know what, when we're all living in a world of everything's fake, our food is fake. Our, our news is fake. Everything we see is manufactured as bread and circuses for us to keep us lulled into this, into this dream state that we're in the, we all need to take on some hardship. And this is for some of us, this is exactly what we want is whatever hardship has to happen to be able to course correct back to reality. And whatever it takes to get to that point so that we're not just being lied to. And it was a really good conversation. But that's the thing is that we need to be able to accept some hardship, some temporary hardship to get back to reality. Because right now, We're just consistently degrading, and we're going to get that hardship, whether we want it or not, eventually. Give it to me now so we can start fixing stuff, you know? I talked to somebody this week who I typically think has a lot of wisdom. And they're like, the course correction is going to come. It's not if, it's when. And that course correction is probably going to be a very brutal adjustment to reality. It's not going to come in lightly or quietly. It's going to come in like a wave. And no one is going to escape the consequences of this. No one is. As much as we prepare, as much as we think we're prepared, we're going to have to MacGyver our way through this thing a little bit because no one really knows the outcome. And it's not the red wave that I'm talking about. It's the course correction that we all need. And that's part of the reason, too, why whenever you do any kind of preparedness work, don't just think about yourself. Think about those around you, because there's going to be an awful lot of people that are not prepared for what's coming. And you may not be prepared for what's coming either. And someone else around you might have a different preparation strategy that works better. You may need their help. You're almost certainly going to need to help others. We need to all work together to be able to get through the hardships that are coming because they are coming. The question is, is it small ones now or big ones later? And I would rather have the hardship now that we can deal with than let it keep degrading to the point where it's a complete and utter disaster that we have to clean up. Yeah. Then we'll find, like what somebody said to me one time that made a big impression, is that we all have talents. We all have things that we can bring to the table. And maybe something like what Donna was talking about, which I stole that from Donna also, but what maybe Donna's talking about is that when everything is dismantled, And when the hardships come and when we have to break a sweat to get back to reality and truth, maybe then that will bring all the talents to the table. Maybe then we'll see what everyone's got, you know? Good point. Well, I tell you what, let's say prayers and then we'll go to last words. This is a great show, guys. This wasn't where I was expecting it to go. I thought we'd talk about more security. And Ralph actually had pulled a whole bunch of information there on security. You guys want to do this next week, Thursday? Oh, actually, I can't. I'll be gone Wednesday and Thursday and next week. So, you know, I'd love to, I'd love to reassemble it. Do you guys want to do this tomorrow? Cause I could do it tomorrow. Let's come back on tomorrow and then we'll talk more about security and then honor the work that Ralph did and pulling all of these security things. We've been talking about teaching people how to do, to use Tor because of all the censorship that I have going on right now. I got, you know, censored by, I'm being censored by everybody to, to, I actually found a way to get on live stream with YouTube through the Taxpayers Party. They stopped me from being able to live stream to the U.S. Taxpayers Party, which is the Constitution Party. So they've literally censored a political party at this point. And then the Brandenburg News Network Facebook and the one for Governor, that's why there's no comments here, Yeah, they took that down, too. I'm permanently suspended on my activities there, and they stopped going to that. So, you know, we're in other places now, which is okay, and I'm glad for the people watching. I've got my Instagram is up. Still got comments on BNN Live. Yeah, brandenburgnewsnetwork.com is the most reliable, and they're not going to take us down. They're not going to take us down there. It's all archived. All of our episodes are archived there, okay? If you want to go with the most bomb-proof, that's the one. But I think that we need to talk about because we have two Tor nodes. We've got two Tor nodes. We've got two channels on Rumble. We've got one on my Donna Brandenburg X account. I may go ahead and up something for the U.S. taxpayers party there. And we've got a couple other accounts out there and on Odyssey on the blockchain because I want to make sure that this lives on. for as long as the world is still around. I'm hoping this lives on because there's been so many wonderful guests who have been so gracious to volunteer their time. I mean, this is all volunteer. Nobody here gets paid. And so when we do this, we're putting in our time, our treasure and our sacred honor. It's our civic duty to go on here and to share with everybody what we know. And hopefully people that come alongside us or after us will be better or more informed. through what's being shared here. That's my hope and my goal. But anyhow, let's go to prayers and then we'll have last words and we'll go around the room, okay? Dear Heavenly Father, thank you so much for Sean and Chris and Ralph and all the wonderful people out there that are watching right now. I ask that your favor would rest mightily upon everyone, that you would bless their homes, their hearts, give them peace, their families, their relationships. and all the good things in their lives, that they would acknowledge you, that it's all yours, and that you bless them with the use of these things and the stewardship to take care of these things for a season. We pray for all those people on the township boards who are using their power to self-enrich and that you would come in the midst of them in a surprising way, and turn their hearts around in repentance to you so that they would be in service to those around them, not for individual gain. And I will name all these names, and I have. You know who they are. We're not going to spit them out right here, but you know who they are. And we ask that you would touch them and humble them before you, that every knee would bow and every tongue confess that Jesus Christ is our Lord and our Savior. Thank you so much for this day. We ask that you would guide us through it. that we would constantly be in prayer without ceasing with you as you guide us through this day, show us the things you want us to do, and give us the feet to walk the path that you lay before us. We love you so very much. We really do. And we want to be a blessing to you. In the name of Jesus Christ, our Lord and Savior, we pray. Amen. Amen. Okay, around the room. Let's go. Sean, Chris, and Ralph. um I I I think that you know um future generations need to do is educate themselves um you know look up to your elders you know uh folks like our age or older you know we've we've had this experience of climbing out of this uh indoctrination um Just a little side note, just throw it out there, but I got a song that's called Water Wars. It's available on iTunes or whatever. Something to kind of pump your spirit up whenever you're trying to get yourself out of that indoctrination mindset. And I think Sean wrote that to help me, which is really, really fantastic. I love your songs. And thank you for that. We have to get it back up again so that people can see the video and everything you made. That was great. We'll do that tomorrow, okay? Sounds good. Chris? I'm still taking everything in, so I really don't have anything to say. Okay, you will by tomorrow, because I know you and we're friends. I can't never shut my mouth. I love that about you. You're fantastic. You're a fantastic friend. Okay, Ralph? I think just have courage. Have some bravery. Go fight the fights that you might lose. Go fight the fights that you will lose, that you know you're going to lose going into it. It's still worth the fight. Take risks and don't just settle into what's comfortable, what you know you're capable of, what you know you can win at. Go do the things that that takes some risk, that takes some courage, go do those things and don't worry about being called a failure for doing them. Because if you don't even, if no one ever tackles those things, then we all fail. And sometimes you just have to keep, sometimes you have to keep losing because once you stop losing, that's when you lose. And once in a while you'll get a win in and that win is glorious. that's right some of them are very hard one and a lot of times go ahead chris I got something to say okay ralph ralph well said you're funny so awesome well we'll be on tomorrow at nine and I'll send that link out as soon as I set it up we'll be on at nine o'clock in the morning and then uh revisit this little topic of security and not just security that is in our material world but like uh spiritual security and how to deal with crazy people out there that are have like lost it you guys see that where people lost their freaking minds Yeah, no, I think it just felt dandy. Oh, yeah, there you go. Fantastic. So we'll be talking about more stuff tomorrow and bringing to the table different different things that we can learn from. So I'm going to go to let's go to my twenty twenty two protests. Ding, ding, ding, ding. Go to Brandenburgforgovernor.com because I'm the best non-consecutor who's ever not conceded in history of the United States of America. And. I want to have a discussion with the rightful president of the United States, President Donald J. Trump, about this. We're going to talk about this and that. Cowboy boots, who wears it better, I win. And then we try to go forward and fix things, right? So with that said, everybody, have a great day. God bless you. God bless everyone you love. And God bless America. Make it a great day today. If somebody tries to knock you down or you feel bad, don't sit there in self-pity. Get up and walk, soldiers. We're going to get up and we're going to do something to counter it. And that's bring light to the darkness. Do something that's outrageously kind for someone that can never pay you back. Do something random, random acts of kindness. Ask God to put a whole bunch of them in your face so that you can't miss it, okay? Because I got to tell you, we're all a little bit in derp land. All of us are because we're like little kids trying to figure out our way through the muddy playground right now. And that's okay. It's okay. It's okay to risk and fail. It's okay when people call you names. And all that sort of thing. It's okay. That's okay. It tells you what they think. It's not a comment on you. They're exposing the evil in their heart. Go ahead and counter it. Give them a flower and say, okay, you know, here, you appear to me like you need a little bit of uplifting right now. And then walk away, walk away knowing you did the right thing. Even when evil comes knocking on your door, flip it. Evil flips to live. And so have a great day. We'll be back on tomorrow. And hang on. Stand in line, guys. Love you all out there. Love you too, Donna. See you.